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It's a lot of complex variables and it's hard to say if it's pure customer choice or the cycle eating itself. 3d revenue was down 18% in 2017, but then 3d releases in general were down 15%. So, that suggests close to steady demand over the prior year. Box office in general was down 2%, so there may only have been about a 1% difference in demand for 3d in 2017 over 2016. Factor in any box office bombs that were 3d, and the difference could disappear. Theater investment in 3d had 1% growth in 2017, so while investment has slowed, it hasn't stopped and it's unclear if it's market forces or saturation. I don't think it's fully going away anytime soon. Studios may scale back what gets the 3d treatment, but this is probably as much market correction as anything else. 3d can still be a very powerful storytelling tool when used properly. What irks me more is the glacial rollout of HDR and Atmos to theaters.
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The people I've gone to the Dolby Theater with here seem most excited by the power recliners over the sound or picture. Star Wars VIII and Blade Runner 2049 were super impressive in HDR though.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:05
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bull3964 posted:I do know at least with the Sony models you can reverse the legs, pointing them inward, so a narrower stand could be used. On the older ones, the wedge TVs, there were extra slots to put them in the middle too. I have a 70W850B and have the stand things towards the center because the TV stand is too narrow.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:20
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qirex posted:The people I've gone to the Dolby Theater with here seem most excited by the power recliners over the sound or picture. Star Wars VIII and Blade Runner 2049 were super impressive in HDR though. I don't have a Dolby Cinema within 100 miles of my house and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere. Same with any theater with Atmos. The biggest thought that goes though my head when I go to the theater is "Holy crap this picture has horrible black levels compared to my OLED." That's why I mostly only go to the $5 nights, it's not worthwhile otherwise. Except when I saw The Hateful Eight in 70mm, that was a special experience.
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Any recommendations on a relatively inexpensive above-fireplace pull-down TV mount for a 47” TV? It’s too high for us to comfortably watch when it’s on top of the fireplace so we’d like to be able to pull it down into a more comfortable viewing position.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:51
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bull3964 posted:I don't have a Dolby Cinema within 100 miles of my house and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere. Same with any theater with Atmos.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:56
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The laser projection on the darker screen material is supposed to help a ton with contrast.
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Jun 28, 2018 00:08
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The contrast is a lot better, there's a bit in the sizzle reel they show before the movie that simulates a normal screen then it gets darker to show off.
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Jun 28, 2018 00:15
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Logan was my first IMAX movie and I was just like... Okay.. Is this supposed to be impressive or something?
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Jun 28, 2018 00:23
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I'd much rather see something in Dolby Cinema than IMAX, even when I saw Interstellar which had a bunch of anamorphic shots they were neat but the overall effect doesn't do it for me.
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Jun 28, 2018 00:31
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Do all Dolby Prime theaters have the seats that vibrate? Or was that just at the one I went to (Times Square to see BR2049). Because the picture and sound was amazing, but the seat vibration poo poo suuuucked
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Hello tv thread. I'm debating between a 50 in tcl and insignia 4k tv. They're both $329 with a built in Roku. The biggest difference right now for me is the insignia is at best buy, and the tcl I have to wait for prime to deliver in like 6 days. Are there any important differences I'm missing? I know tcl is the thread favorite, but could someone knowledgeable tell me about these?
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Jun 28, 2018 03:58
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What are their warranties like?
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Jun 28, 2018 05:47
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Both a 1 year deal. They look pretty similar.
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Jun 28, 2018 06:24
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I think Insignia TVs are made by Hisense now. If I had to guess I'd say the TCL would be built better but at that price point maybe not.
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Jun 28, 2018 13:12
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What's the pecking order between the Sony A1E, A8F, and LG C8?
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They should all use the same panel so it'll come down to whatever combination of price/motion processing/design preference you have.Quite honestly i'd go with the C8 just to avoid using a TV with Android on it, and it's also the cheapest set. But i'm not as sensitive to motion cadence issues as bull3964 so YMMV.
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Gf got new new TCL from Amazon. The box was perfectly fine. Packaged fine. Opened it, huge cracks across the screen starting from the bottom left corner. Very obviously dropped before it was boxed. Getting a new one Monday but gently caress.
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Jun 30, 2018 18:04
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Walmart literally ship their budget TVs in the lightweight box it comes in. When I bought my HiSense, I kept my eye on the deal thread and it felt like I was it the minority for getting one that didn’t have a cracked screen.
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Jun 30, 2018 19:46
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Yeah this came in the box the tv actually comes in. If it comes cracked again, then Best Buy it is.
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GreenNight posted:Yeah this came in the box the tv actually comes in. If it comes cracked again, then Best Buy it is. My brothers Vizio M from BB was faulty out of box, I believe he picked it up in the first place. When they shipped the replacement, it arrived damaged. I cant loving imagine how that happens. They gotta know its a loving TV and not some TV shaped anvil.
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codo27 posted:My brothers Vizio M from BB was faulty out of box, I believe he picked it up in the first place. When they shipped the replacement, it arrived damaged. I cant loving imagine how that happens. They gotta know its a loving TV and not some TV shaped anvil. I've seen a dumbbell arrive damaged in the mail. Who knows what's happening along the way.
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Jun 30, 2018 21:48
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In shipping company sorting centers, packages drop from one automated ramp to another. The maximum drop between ramps is about 10 feet. So always assume every package you ship will experience a 10 foot drop.
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Jun 30, 2018 22:12
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EL BROMANCE posted:Walmart literally ship their budget TVs in the lightweight box it comes in. All stores and TV manufacturers do. Those boxes are designed as shipping boxes.
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Jun 30, 2018 22:44
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Back home I had TVs delivered in proper shipping boxes, except for my plasma whose box was built like a tank. The HiSense box is just thin and crap with nothing really inside to stop damage. I got super lucky.
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I have an option to buy an LG 55OLEDb7a from a local shop for $925 or the TCL 55r615 for $600 from Best Buy. Should I spring the extra $300 for the oled? I cant really test the TCL because Best Buy doesnt calibrate them.
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idk specifically what the disadvantages of the A panel are, but if you can get an LG OLED for under 1k you gotta do it.
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Green Gloves posted:I have an option to buy an LG 55OLEDb7a from a local shop for $925 or the TCL 55r615 for $600 from Best Buy. Should I spring the extra $300 for the oled? I cant really test the TCL because Best Buy doesnt calibrate them. That OLED is miles better than even a decent LED let alone a budget one, absolutely worth it.
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Green Gloves posted:I have an option to buy an LG 55OLEDb7a from a local shop for $925 or the TCL 55r615 for $600 from Best Buy. Should I spring the extra $300 for the oled? I cant really test the TCL because Best Buy doesnt calibrate them. If that deal is legit then definitely get the OLED. The difference between those two is WAY bigger than $300.
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I'm in the market for a new TV. My budget is $1,500 and my space can support up to 65". It will primarily be used for movies and games - I'm not much of a casual TV-watcher. What's the best value for money?
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Green Gloves posted:I have an option to buy an LG 55OLEDb7a from a local shop for $925 or the TCL 55r615 for $600 from Best Buy. Should I spring the extra $300 for the oled? I cant really test the TCL because Best Buy doesnt calibrate them. You should get the OLED, no question. I have both of those sets (my OLED is a B7P but same panel) and the OLED is worth the extra $300. The 615 is a fine budget option with a lot of value for the money but it's still an LCD.
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Thanks guys I actually went to the local shop and they hooked up a Samsung LED MU8000 and that OLED. Watched the same 4k Waterfall YouTube video and it was no comparison. My eyes on the oled were 😳🤩. It is truly life-like. The guy was super nice too. Said I had to ask my wife to buy he was real cool about it no pressure said they were getting in more every few weeks. The shop was an assortment of brand new never opened and open box returns. Mostly overstock from big box stores. I was in a room with like hundreds of tvs in boxes it was crazy. I just asked him to open up any box and plug a tv in.
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My current TV had several of its inputs fried during a thunderstorm, so I can't have it hooked up to my HTPC. My space can support up to 32", maybe 40" if I move my speakers a bit. I've seen a Samsung QD-LED 40" model (UE40MU6105) that looks very affordable (€500-€600 range), are the QD-LED panels mature etc?
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Is there much improvement from the LG OLED55C7 to the C8? The B7 (basically the same as the C7 as I understand it) is currently £1299 in Richer Sounds. Nowhere seems to have the C8 in stock at the moment but I imagine it'll start at around £3000. I've no intentions of paying that for a C8 even if it's a great improvement over last year's sets but I don't know of I should just go for the B7. Mainly to be used for Xbox gaming, and streaming.
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This year's 8 series innovation (for C8 and up, not B8) is supposed to be a much better motion processing chip to bring it equal to the Sony OLEDs. You're right that the B7 and C7 are virtually the same.
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KS posted:This year's 8 series innovation (for C8 and up, not B8) is supposed to be a much better motion processing chip to bring it equal to the Sony OLEDs. Would this make much difference for gaming? I'm not a sports fan so don't care about the impact on that, but if movies, TV and gaming would see an improvement I'll wait. Is the lower response time on LED TVs compared to OLED noticeable with multiplayer?
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Motion processing shouldn’t make much diff with most gaming if you’re using a game mode it turns that off for lag reasons.
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Jul 4, 2018 19:19
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It will make a big difference in tv watching because standards suck.
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bull3964 posted:It will make a big difference in tv watching because standards suck. In what way does it make a difference with TV? I love the look of the OLEDs but keep thinking of burn-in and image retention, then some of the LED TVs have latency of around 15ms compared with the 21 or so of OLED. I'll also potentially be using the TV during the day a good deal. Tell me I'm mental.
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The benefits of an OLED screen visually outweigh any combination of the negatives. The ONLY negative that mattered about it was the price and that's steadily becoming a non-issue as well. If an OLED is in your budget, you buy it. That's the rule.
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