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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
tuck chodd

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

so how did AOC do on huck tcodd, i'm watching soccer

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i say swears online posted:

so how did AOC do on huck tcodd, i'm watching soccer

https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1013429687241117696?s=19

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1NhtqEHirs

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Boring: "Healthcare, Housing, and Education"

Soaring: "Peace, Land, and Bread"

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
the cursed word “access”

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
everyone should have access to quality socialism

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

AOC getting all this exposure, once she has conspiracies involving antisemitism and child predators she's presidential material

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/MitchellCares/status/1013438728361029633

has anyone said kLOLbuchar yet

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


yet

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Nonsense posted:

AOC getting all this exposure, once she has conspiracies involving antisemitism and child predators she's presidential material

She isn't willing to slobber Israel's cock, so the antisemitism accusations should come shortly; all she needs to do now is visit a restaurant owned by a liberal or leftist.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

she's clearly distancing herself from her dsa association less than a week after the primary win. i would think dsa members of all people would have a problem with that.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

MizPiz posted:

She isn't willing to slobber Israel's cock, so the antisemitism accusations should come shortly; all she needs to do now is visit a restaurant owned by a liberal or leftist.

Late to the party, friendo: https://forward.com/news/breaking-news/404237/greedy-jewish-landlords-pol-campaigned-for-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

(One of the replies to the now deleted tweet said "Look what she said about Hamas, she's practically already his best pal!" or something.)

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1013423900288577536?s=19

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

R. Guyovich posted:

she's clearly distancing herself from her dsa association less than a week after the primary win. i would think dsa members of all people would have a problem with that.

nah

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


I'm certain it will happen now.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

R. Guyovich posted:

she's clearly distancing herself from her dsa association less than a week after the primary win. i would think dsa members of all people would have a problem with that.

I'm pretty sure she's going to disappoint eventually but I've seen way too many attempts to find reasons to be mad at her from, let's just say, certain tendencies. It looks a little over-eager to do this, is all I'm saying.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I dont think she's distancing herself I just think there isn't a unified message behind what DSA is

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

see, and i think there's a lot of the opposite tendency going around — projecting qualities that don't exist on a person because you're desperate for a win. we've seen it with obama and bernard. at this point it's weird to not be at least a little skeptical

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
who cares if she doesn't insist on having a rose emoji next to her name on the senate roles as long as she pushes the policies that got her elected

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

R. Guyovich posted:

she's clearly distancing herself from her dsa association less than a week after the primary win. i would think dsa members of all people would have a problem with that.

as long as she has the right policies, who cares what team or grouping she identifies with? as long as she's on board with abolishing ICE and equal rights for everyone and free healthcare for all, I don't care if she starts calling herself a Republican

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I think AOC ultimately isn't going to be as radical as we might like her to be, but I still think it's disingenuous for people like CC to be the ones to bring it up purely to try and score cheap shots on the thread.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

R. Guyovich posted:

see, and i think there's a lot of the opposite tendency going around — projecting qualities that don't exist on a person because you're desperate for a win. we've seen it with obama and bernard. at this point it's weird to not be at least a little skeptical

she's not even elected yet and unseated the #3 dem in the house who was a shitbag. none of this navelgazey concern trolling matters to me at all. she won't be perfect, she'll disappoint. but she's got a ton of fame now and she's like a baby deer trying to walk. there will be dumb things said. she's still great until proven otherwise.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
now if you saw her getting more involved with the dnc then id worry

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I dont think people like Huryovich are concern trolling so much as disappointed that AOC isn't educating the country as to what socialism is now that DSA has the national spotlight

But that's not her job. It should be the job of DSA itself to educate and give socialism a platform but unfortunately national is all but deadbeat and the media isn't gonna contact locals

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i saw people giving sameera poo poo for (rightly) pointing out the anti-war plank had disappeared from the platform, and i guarantee you those complaints are what got that restored. dismissing entirely fair criticism as concern trolling is dumb as dogshit.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Phi230 posted:

I dont think people like Huryovich are concern trolling so much as disappointed that AOC isn't educating the country as to what socialism is now that DSA has the national spotlight

But that's not her job. It should be the job of DSA itself to educate and give socialism a platform but unfortunately national is all but deadbeat and the media isn't gonna contact locals

Yeah, this is where I am at: I'm not looking for a hero, I'm asking, "What can this high profile win by a DSA-backed candidate do to advance socialism, and what role can I play in it?" She's not really going to be able to escape the association even if she wants to and even if the media's not going to talk to locals, real people are. We've gotten more interested people contacting us this week than in the past few months. That's where we can make the difference, even after she inevitably disappoints us all.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

i saw people giving sameera poo poo for (rightly) pointing out the anti-war plank had disappeared from the platform, and i guarantee you those complaints are what got that restored. dismissing entirely fair criticism as concern trolling is dumb as dogshit.

yeah Khan was entirely right to point it out, and whether or not you believe AOC had dropped the plank and restored it after pressure, or it was a legit website whatever, the response of restoring it was also right and only makes AOC look better for being correctly receptive of that feedback

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Phi230 posted:

I dont think people like Huryovich are concern trolling so much as disappointed that AOC isn't educating the country as to what socialism is now that DSA has the national spotlight

But that's not her job. It should be the job of DSA itself to educate and give socialism a platform but unfortunately national is all but deadbeat and the media isn't gonna contact locals

yeah this. media is finally paying attention to someone within the broader left orbit and this was a good opportunity to spread awareness. but it's already looking like the outcome is gonna be the equating of socdem to demsoc and liberals absorbing this bogus framework into their recruitment drives for young voters who might otherwise pursue radical alternatives.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

R. Guyovich posted:

i saw people giving sameera poo poo for (rightly) pointing out the anti-war plank had disappeared from the platform, and i guarantee you those complaints are what got that restored. dismissing entirely fair criticism as concern trolling is dumb as dogshit.

This is a perfect example of "looking for a thing to be mad at" which you can realize by asking yourself how this chain of events benefits Ocasio's secret war hawk agenda:

1. Run primary campaign with a "Peace Economy" platform plank, including printed materials with it.
2. One day after winning the primary, which was the more important race, remove the "Peace Economy" section from campaign website.
3. Don't anticipate anyone noticing because you're a moron, and then lie that it was a site glitch when someone does and restore it.

Why do all this when, if she's really not serious about the "Peace Economy," she could just as easily leave it up and then vote for wars and poo poo once in office? Is she that concerned about losing the general election over it?

GunnerJ has issued a correction as of 16:48 on Jul 1, 2018

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

R. Guyovich posted:

i saw people giving sameera poo poo for (rightly) pointing out the anti-war plank had disappeared from the platform, and i guarantee you those complaints are what got that restored. dismissing entirely fair criticism as concern trolling is dumb as dogshit.

you'll have to excuse me if I'm still a little riled up you claimed she "reached out to Glenn beck" but I'm also getting my threads crossed here I guess.

e: In other words, I don't think you're arguing in good faith here

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
War Communism *dismissive drake*

Peace Communism *approving drake*

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

GunnerJ posted:

This is a perfect example of "looking for a thing to be mad at" which you can realize by asking yourself how this chain of events benefits Ocasio's secret war hawk agenda:

1. Run primary campaign with a "Peace Economy" platform plank, including printed materials with it.
2. One day after winning the primary, which was the more important race, remove the "Peace Economy" section from campaign website.
3. Don't anticipate anyone noticing because you're a moron, and then lie that it was a site glitch when someone does and restore it.

Why do all this when, if she's really not serious about the "Peace Economy," she could just as easily leave it up and then vote for wars and poo poo once in office? Is the that concerned about losing the general election over it?

i didn't presume to know how the plank got dropped. i only said the complaints are what got it put back up. whatever the cause it didn't appear to be a high-priority task until someone called attention to it

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

R. Guyovich posted:

i saw people giving sameera poo poo for (rightly) pointing out the anti-war plank had disappeared from the platform, and i guarantee you those complaints are what got that restored. dismissing entirely fair criticism as concern trolling is dumb as dogshit.

yeah but she didnt run the website and people were taking the removal to be akin to announcing being an agent of imperialism

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Raskolnikov38 posted:

yeah but she didnt run the website and people were taking the removal to be akin to announcing being an agent of imperialism

yes. that is dumb.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

R. Guyovich posted:

i didn't presume to know how the plank got dropped. i only said the complaints are what got it put back up. whatever the cause it didn't appear to be a high-priority task until someone called attention to it

just asking questions here, people

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Matt Zerella posted:

just asking questions here, people

JAQing off

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

R. Guyovich posted:

i didn't presume to know how the plank got dropped. i only said the complaints are what got it put back up. whatever the cause it didn't appear to be a high-priority task until someone called attention to it

I wonder why a campaign website wouldn't be a high priority one day after winning the actually important race, hm.

Anyway please forgive me for not being mad that she corrected a mistake once alerted to it.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

GunnerJ posted:

I wonder why a campaign website wouldn't be a high priority one day after winning the actually important race, hm.

Anyway please forgive me for not being mad that she corrected a mistake once alerted to it.

and didn't she expand the section after they fixed it? I dunno guys, hard to trust... oh look, I found lint

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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I’m not too sure about Alexandria any more guys!

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