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DreadCthulhu posted:Got it, that helped! Just had to disable skirmish. What you just wrote already makes you better than the majority of OW's playerbase. Healers and tanks are always useful, just don't burn yourself out by picking them every time because you feel like you have to. I may sound like a broken record when I say this, but be aware that you can mute individual text chat chanels by pressing P during the match and choosing which one to silence. Sometimes that's all you can do when someone is being a poo poo. I'm not saying that Overwatch's players are all toxic idiots, but since this is the internet, you will certainly meet plenty of angry dumbasses.
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DreadCthulhu posted:Got it, that helped! Just had to disable skirmish. You typically want 2 tanks, a main tank and an offtank. Main tanks are the ones with the shields mitigating team damage winston, orissa, rein. If you're filing in for no tank, pick one of these. Offtanks can't provide the same amount of mitigation but usually have other advantages like damage and utility. If you have a very mobile team you may want a winston and dva. If you have a team that'll stick together you may want something like a rein and zarya instead. ImPureAwesome fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Ginette Reno posted:b) talk on the mic. His point about people never talking is bullshit. People talk all the time about who is gonna play what. Just. talk. I'd bet hard money that there are people who would otherwise talk on mic who clam up when they hear him. Why make yourself a target when you don't have to be one?
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nickhimself posted:I remember when this game was still new and good to me 
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DreadCthulhu posted:Got it, that helped! Just had to disable skirmish. You're not going to get the most team-focused experience in QP, so try not to get too frustrated when teammates don't communicate or cooperate. Try deathmatch when it's available, or try competitive when you reach the appropriate level.
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Or to put it another way, QP is the game damned souls play while waiting for Charon to row back and get on with taking you to hell already, and you should not play it after level 25.
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So I guess I’m a Symmetra main now
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Took a while but I am now finally getting used to the new Symmetra. Am liking using her ult to splice half the area up and throwing turrets at the light wall, as people can't seem to break then and get zapped.
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The most important thing about the Symm rework is that her ult callout is now incredibly badass
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Apparently all you have do to get an endorsement is have a pulse. I'm ok with it
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Field Mousepad posted:Apparently all you have do to get an endorsement is have a pulse. I'm ok with it That part was confusing. You get experience for endorsing people, even when they're not that great. Perverse incentive.
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If you’re in a group for more than one round you have to give them to the enemy team or not do anything at all
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I've discussed this here at more length before the thread turned towards Hamster Chat with Hammond's reveal, but the endorsement system is cheesy as hell, easily manipulated and means nothing except how much you play because you are going to be levelling up whatever you do, unless you're permanently trolling. Plus, it also manages to punish you for sticking together with the people you've found that you've actually enjoyed playing with.
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Field Mousepad posted:Apparently all you have do to get an endorsement is have a pulse. I'm ok with it There's a total 33 endorsements others can give. Unless you're really toxic, one of them is likely to land on you.
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adhuin posted:There's a total 33 endorsements others can give. Unless you're really toxic, one of them is likely to land on you. I mean, it seems like most people are likely to give their three endorsements to the people who annoyed them least. If nothing else, the toxic person will have less than anybody else.
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Yeah if you aren't actively flaming your team you'll probably get a bunch.
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Rand Brittain posted:I mean, it seems like most people are likely to give their three endorsements to the people who annoyed them least. If nothing else, the toxic person will have less than anybody else. Yeah. but he doesn't feel that bad, because he got one.
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If people endorse like they commend in FFXIV, I literally have no idea how you wouldn't get endorsements. That poo poo gets thrown around like hotcakes. But if you wanna game it: play a healer. You will be MAINLINING that poo poo.
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I was crushing it as junkrat. As usual 
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I'm not sure if endorsements are meant to mean anything in the first place but as long as they seem like they do and people behave better because of it, the intended outcome of decreasing toxicity is pretty much the same.
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Give it some time, this game will be a toxic shitheap again in some weeks
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Kanfy posted:I'm not sure if endorsements are meant to mean anything in the first place but as long as they seem like they do and people behave better because of it, the intended outcome of decreasing toxicity is pretty much the same. If it evens out in a few weeks to "toxicity, but less of it" then I'm cool with that. Klaaz posted:Give it some time, this game will be a toxic shitheap again in some weeks Then make hay while the sun shines, friend.
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If it becomes a poo poo-heap again, they can almost certainly add fuel to the niceness fire by adding new skins you can only buy with commendation points.
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Rand Brittain posted:If it becomes a poo poo-heap again, they can almost certainly add fuel to the niceness fire by adding new skins you can only buy with commendation points. Add commendations as a requirement to maintain ranks above diamond
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The endorsement system + LFG go hand in hand imo, you can't talk about one without considering the other because they both feed into each other.
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i am glad that the addition of the lfg and endorsement things has thus far been a completely optional component of the game and i can still just mash quickplay and ignore the systems entirely. making them mandatory in any shape or form would be a really lovely idea i m h o edit: 
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Has it been hinted what the benefits of high endorsement levels are yet? Blizzard has said numerous times that they are not necessarily fans of rewards (i.e. Golden guns in comp), so I'm curious about the endorsement incentives. Gold? The occasional loot box? Marginally increased chances for epic/legendary drops from boxes (corresponding with the matching colors of "good teammate" and "shotcaller" endorsements)? Sprays. It's gonna be sprays, right?
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i think you get a loot box every time your level goes up, and then an occasional lootbox if your level stays at 5 or whatever the max is
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SciFiDownBeat posted:The endorsement system + LFG go hand in hand imo, you can't talk about one without considering the other because they both feed into each other. i finally got to endorsement level 2, and after setting the min endorsement level to 2 on my LFG requests i've had at least two people tell me that they specifically joined because of it. it does take a little bit longer to find a group, though. even if it doesn't reduce toxicity in the long run, i'm getting way more enjoyment out of the game right now than when the best i could do was solo queue
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Pink Reaper skin available only to players with Endorsement Level 5.
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The scenario that I can see is that you end up with the toxic and bad players sort of being ringfenced in the same groups. Give it a month and all the relatively decent players will have at least level 2-3 endorsements. If you're trollish or toxic at all then you'll probably struggle to get to level 2, and will be stuck trying to make the lives of other toxic & trollish players miserable. One problem I have noticed is that people are now super-reticent to criticise bad play, though.
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Perfectly Safe posted:One problem I have noticed is that people are now super-reticent to criticise bad play, though. That's good though? At my level (silver-gold) I wouldn't trust myself to give useful criticism on a VOD, let alone to a teammate during gameplay (and often in an entirely different role). And I certainly don't give any weight to anything my teammates have to say that isn't about themselves or their own play.
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I don’t think it’s good that people are reluctant to criticize bad plays. I feel like if you have half a brain at any rank, you can tell that your dps can’t kill poo poo or that your Mercy rezzes at inopportune times.
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if you wouldn't trust an internet rando to criticize your performance then why would you trust their feedback of giving you a scratch and sniff sticker for a job well done
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durrneez posted:I don’t think it’s good that people are reluctant to criticize bad plays. I feel like if you have half a brain at any rank, you can tell that your dps can’t kill poo poo or that your Mercy rezzes at inopportune times. You can still talk about it, there's nothing stopping you from going "Hey, the enemy is watching you rez, try to do it out of sight," instead of "poo poo MERCY YOU GOT US BOTH KILLED" Similarly, "We need shield busters" or "They're hanging pretty far back, let's get some dive heroes" goes over a lot better than "No one is doing any damage!!"
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durrneez posted:I don’t think it’s good that people are reluctant to criticize bad plays. I feel like if you have half a brain at any rank, you can tell that your dps can’t kill poo poo or that your Mercy rezzes at inopportune times. "DPS can't kill poo poo" can also be the tank's fault for not creating space/sight lines and the healers' fault for not keeping everybody alive. You can reasonably blame everyone if you're getting rolled. (and besides if your DPS can't kill poo poo but your tanks and healers are fine thats ok, every healer and tank can deal damage!) hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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there's asking someone politely to swap and then there's being a dick and poo poo talking someone for being bad at their role. nothing about the endorsement system discourages you from working with your team to make changes
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durrneez posted:I don’t think it’s good that people are reluctant to criticize bad plays. I feel like if you have half a brain at any rank, you can tell that your dps can’t kill poo poo or that your Mercy rezzes at inopportune times. You watch sports? I know in hockey its really easy for a goalie to look awful if their defense just can't clear the puck, can't block shots, and screens the shots, and conversely a really good defense can make even a mediocre goalie look good by forcing the other team to take bad-angle shots from a distance. Yes, the goalie's skill matters too, but you can't always point to a goalie in a blowout loss and say its his fault, even if he posts a terrible save percentage. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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durrneez posted:I don’t think it’s good that people are reluctant to criticize bad plays. I feel like if you have half a brain at any rank, you can tell that your dps can’t kill poo poo or that your Mercy rezzes at inopportune times. How can you make that useful? How do you actualize "DPS isn't killing anything/table aren't making space/healers aren't healing anything" in the span of one game (which is the average average amount of time you'll spend with another person as a teammate)? It's much more useful to point out the enemy's deficiencies imo. The best you can do is focus people's limited attention span on what problems the other team is causing to get people thinking about how it can be addressed. It could be as simple as rephrasing "dps can't confirm kills" to "focus mercy."
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