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bloodychill posted:Games so good they sell consoles and sell like crazy but no third party wants a piece. It's not a question of profit, it's a question of scale. Like Horizon Zero Dawn got all kinds of great reviews, won tons of awards and sold 8 million units in a year, which is about equal to... *checks notes* the lifetime sales of video game pariah and object of mass ridicule Star Wars Battlefront II. And it doesn't have the microtransactions or lootboxes that are responsible for the vast majority of money EA makes. Even if they lost every single one of their other licenses they'd still make $700mil a year from FIFA cards, poo poo's ridiculous. And they can keep churning out the same FIFA with the same monetization model year after year, whereas single-player games have to take creative risks all the time and there's always the danger that the next game may not be as big of a hit. When it comes to pleasing your shareholders, nobody is gonna simply like "lots of money" when "metric shitton of money" is the other option. They're gonna re-up on the metric shitton every time, and what's more they're gonna say gently caress you to the studios only making lots of money, go make a game more like the metric shitton of money!
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The Colonel posted:good third party aaa titles are mostly dead and most big third party western publishers don't see making a greater number of cheaper games as an alternative worth bothering with despite it being something other corners of the market have found plenty of success doing Have they even shown anything about that game aside from the gently caress-monkey trailer? Like, do we know what the game is actually going to be?
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The Moon Monster posted:Have they even shown anything about that game aside from the gently caress-monkey trailer? Like, do we know what the game is actually going to be? Its literally a nms clone
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The Moon Monster posted:Have they even shown anything about that game aside from the gently caress-monkey trailer? Like, do we know what the game is actually going to be? that's up to you, the content creator
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Oh and re: dishonored 2 flopping Dont release a niche sp game in fall up against a million other fps games, put it in january.
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Real hurthling! posted:Oh and re: dishonored 2 flopping January 2019 is a Thunderdome because everyone is trying to avoid Red Dead 2 Edit: well more February I guess
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Falling back into a Cities Skyline hole, maybe this time I will make a city that doesn't fall apart in on itself.
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I'm still not sure which DLCs are worthwhile for Cities Skylines, please help.
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Taintrunner posted:Falling back into a Cities Skyline hole, maybe this time I will make a city that doesn't fall apart in on itself. The fate of all of man's creations is collapse and decay.
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Heartcatch posted:I'm still not sure which DLCs are worthwhile for Cities Skylines, please help. The main expansions apparently add some gameplay stuff that’s super useful for QoL, as far as I understand it
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The Moon Monster posted:Have they even shown anything about that game aside from the gently caress-monkey trailer? Like, do we know what the game is actually going to be? after the first trailer, michel ancel said it would be a wide open space sandbox rpg where you start from scratch on a random planet and you can build yourself up from a janitor to having a full pirate crew and also it's a prequel story that might have some bge1 things in it and then at e3 2018 they showed a trailer with pey'j and jade in it so that people who actually wanted something vaguely related to the first game would care and then joseph gordon-levitt walked on stage and said "hello Content Creators. make things for our game and then we'll pay you if we use them" and then every independent artist who has a vague concept of what spec work is vomited in disgust
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the jade thing is a fakeout, its probably jade's mom. pey'j would be in a bg&e prequel for sure because he knew her parents before they came to system 4
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homeless snail posted:the jade thing is a fakeout, its probably jade's mom. pey'j would be in a bg&e prequel for sure because he knew her parents before they came to system 4
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The Colonel posted:i hope hk gives me the wall jump soon I thought the Wall Jump was the second ability everyone got, after the initial Dash, but I've seen people breaking the order of Hollow Knight by accident so often I honestly don't even know if there's a true, definite path you should be following. Follow your guts, I guess. Also, the boss that gives the Wall Jump is the one where you realize that Team Cherry put some loving effort into these fights, so enjoy it, it's going to be great.
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So is No Mans Sky worth $30 in the Steam sale if I'm angling for a dumb "gently caress off in space" game as a way to zen out for an evening?
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Skypie posted:So is No Mans Sky worth $30 in the Steam sale if I'm angling for a dumb "gently caress off in space" game as a way to zen out for an evening?
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Did Michel Ancel abandon Wild in order to go whole hog on this Star Citizen-level bullshit Seems like it. Rip snake tit goddess
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I'm OK with that, Wild looked like something they shouldn't be doing.
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Skypie posted:So is No Mans Sky worth $30 in the Steam sale if I'm angling for a dumb "gently caress off in space" game as a way to zen out for an evening? Subnautica is $20 and by most reports a better survival game if you aren't super attached to space.
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haveblue posted:I'm OK with that, Wild looked like something they shouldn't be doing. I was down for a cool weird game
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I looked up wild https://www.google.com/amp/s/waypoint.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/zmgzze/what-happened-to-wild-michael-ancels-open-world-game-from-2014 Ancel posted to social media that he was working overtime at wild sheep productions in december 2017, and someone from wild sheep said the game exists still in very unhelpful pr speak for this april 2018 article.
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Ubisoft got very close to not existing in 2018 so who even knows.
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Hey I'm looking to get a couple cheap USB controllers, chiefly so the wife and I can play Overcooked without hunching over a single keyboard. What's a good bet that's also pretty cheap?
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Hey, I used to collect PEZ because I'm a pop culture nerd and I like all these little mascots. Lately, Funcopops (??) or whatever they're called are popping up all over the place, and I would be all over them except that there probably isn't an aesthetic I find more wretched than big stupid heads on little stupid bodies. At least the PEZ things looked like what they were trying to look up, sometimes, a lot of the time. Anyway, I guess I wanted to know if there is some competing pop-culture mascot doodads that don't look like a tofu cube with eyes.
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credburn posted:Hey, I used to collect PEZ because I'm a pop culture nerd and I like all these little mascots. Lately, Funcopops (??) or whatever they're called are popping up all over the place, and I would be all over them except that there probably isn't an aesthetic I find more wretched than big stupid heads on little stupid bodies. At least the PEZ things looked like what they were trying to look up, sometimes, a lot of the time. Nendos? Which are vastly superior.
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The Colonel posted:i still hate it because no matter where bge2 goes at this point they've completely loving tainted it trying out a business practice that's already lovely enough in other fields and didn't need to be introduced to loving aaa game development It's really amazing how they managed to get me to go "I'm interested in that!" with what little the showed of the game, and then immediately just tanked it into the ground with the announcement of the fan created stuff. On top of annoucning that, they didn't mention monitization at all. And then later when they were like "okay you're right we didn't talk about it, here's the deal" it turned out to be exactly what everyone thought. Ubisoft you are too big of a company to pull that poo poo
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nendoroids actually look nice and have a bunch of different expressions and lots of little doodads that you can pose them with, they ownMacaluso posted:It's really amazing how they managed to get me to go "I'm interested in that!" with what little the showed of the game, and then immediately just tanked it into the ground with the announcement of the fan created stuff. On top of annoucning that, they didn't mention monitization at all. the best part is that if it's successful then that'll establish a precedent for other aaa western pubs to take advantage of which will only make the already lovely situation with working in game development actively shittier for everyone except the publishers so. i'm probably not going to buy another ubisoft game now
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Oh Obduction, you so crazy. Also some of the trippiest imagery I've seen in a while. Should I be blowing up all of the information beacons around the first area? The game definitely lets you do it but I can't tell if it's for a purpose or just for an achievement. E: Spoilers for something you can figure out in the first hour of the game I guess. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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These Nendoroids do look a lot better. But they still are using the same kind of aesthetic :\
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I have a no-Nendo rule. Mostly to preserve my already spotty financial self control.
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credburn posted:These Nendoroids do look a lot better. But they still are using the same kind of aesthetic :\
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exquisite tea posted:It's not a question of profit, it's a question of scale. Like Horizon Zero Dawn got all kinds of great reviews, won tons of awards and sold 8 million units in a year, which is about equal to... *checks notes* the lifetime sales of video game pariah and object of mass ridicule Star Wars Battlefront II. And it doesn't have the microtransactions or lootboxes that are responsible for the vast majority of money EA makes. Even if they lost every single one of their other licenses they'd still make $700mil a year from FIFA cards, poo poo's ridiculous. And they can keep churning out the same FIFA with the same monetization model year after year, whereas single-player games have to take creative risks all the time and there's always the danger that the next game may not be as big of a hit. When it comes to pleasing your shareholders, nobody is gonna simply like "lots of money" when "metric shitton of money" is the other option. They're gonna re-up on the metric shitton every time, and what's more they're gonna say gently caress you to the studios only making lots of money, go make a game more like the metric shitton of money! It’s classic share-holder wanting quarterly profits and obscuring the possibilities of the future. There is never as much money in single player games (Skyrim aside) but darlings like HZD, Breath of the Wild, and God of War improve the quality of your brand, get you good press, and make it easier for players to swallow DLC/microtransactions, as we’ve seen in action with Nintendo. If Battlefront 2 been accompanied by that Amy Hennig-written single player game or the lost Lucas Arts bounty hunter game, it would have been easier to forgive and not depended on 50%+ sales two weeks from release to get the same sales numbers that HZD and BotW got.
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exquisite tea posted:And it doesn't have the microtransactions or lootboxes that are responsible for the vast majority of money EA makes. EA actually told shareholders that DLC, lootboxes, and microtransactions barely make them any money. The majority of their profit comes in straight game sales. EA can make all of their DLC free and it would change nothing for their bottom line.
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bloodychill posted:It’s classic share-holder wanting quarterly profits and obscuring the possibilities of the future. There is never as much money in single player games (Skyrim aside) but darlings like HZD, Breath of the Wild, and God of War improve the quality of your brand, get you good press, and make it easier for players to swallow DLC/microtransactions, as we’ve seen in action with Nintendo. If Battlefront 2 been accompanied by that Amy Hennig-written single player game or the lost Lucas Arts bounty hunter game, it would have been easier to forgive and not depended on 50%+ sales two weeks from release to get the same sales numbers that HZD and BotW got. Also as people have pointed out before, platform holders like Sony can basically treat their single player AAA games as "loss leaders" (as if selling millions is a loss) because having those kinds of exclusives increases the value and appeal of your console ecosystem
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