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GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
'Reform ICE' sure is a nice concise way to summarize how you have no conviction on any issue but still want to hold elected office.

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Microcline
Jul 27, 2012

Phi230 posted:

Warsaw Pact except for North America

United Socialist States of America

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Microcline posted:

United Socialist States of America

I too read Fire On The Mountain

Serf
May 5, 2011


Microcline posted:

United Socialist States of America

United Communist Nations of Earth

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

That's a good burn imo.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Microcline posted:

United Socialist States of America

da Share z0ne

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
y ppl in d&d threatening to kill themselves. what did trump/dems do/fail to do

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Joementum posted:

love too commit usury

https://twitter.com/HayesBrown/status/1013659754768535552

(the company mails you a check which is actually a loan and hides the 33% interest rate)

Like, at random? Even in this hellworld timeline, I'm kind of amazed this is legal

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Matt Zerella posted:

da Share z0ne

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

y ppl in d&d threatening to kill themselves. what did trump/dems do/fail to do

Trump Muslim ban upheld

"free speech" for "crisis pregnancy centers" upheld

voter roll purges upheld

Janus decision gonna kill unions

and then Justice Kennedy is gonna resign and will be replaced by Mecha Robert Bork

The Little Kielbasa
Mar 29, 2001

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

'Reform ICE' sure is a nice concise way to summarize how you have no conviction on any issue but still want to hold elected office.

Most people hear "Abolish ICE" and think "open borders" which, moral or not, is hugely unpopular. It'll take a fuckton of messaging to counteract that inference, and I don't see the game being worth the candle.

Serf
May 5, 2011


its true that we did not enforce the border until *checks notes* 2003??

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

The Little Kielbasa posted:

Most people hear "Abolish ICE" and think "open borders" which, moral or not, is hugely unpopular. It'll take a fuckton of messaging to counteract that inference, and I don't see the game being worth the candle.

I imagine this is why Sanders didn't outright agree with it, considering he voted against the legislation that created ICE back in 2002. It's an assumption for now but definitely something I want him to answer more questions about, namely what immigration would look like under his administration. He's gone on record as being against open borders because of the undercutting of jobs and competitive wages that would likely result from it, at least, so the (however skewed) conflation of "abolish ICE" with "open borders" might have been enough for him to demur on it.

MeatwadIsGod has issued a correction as of 17:37 on Jul 2, 2018

Serf
May 5, 2011


abolish the CIA and use their budget to help those fleeing the chaos of their actions relocate to america imo

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

Trump Muslim ban upheld

"free speech" for "crisis pregnancy centers" upheld

voter roll purges upheld

Janus decision gonna kill unions

and then Justice Kennedy is gonna resign and will be replaced by Mecha Robert Bork

This is what happens when you think the supreme court is an ally instead of a deeply conservative institution that's been doing bad poo poo for a very long time

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
I agree, the CIA needs to go.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Calibanibal posted:

Interesting how ocasio is pursuing her own career rather than going back to Puerto Rico to help rebuild

How strange that she claims to support abolishing ICE when she herself is mostly made of water, which can become ice at any time

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Grondoth posted:

This is what happens when you think the supreme court is an ally instead of a deeply conservative institution that's been doing bad poo poo for a very long time

just a state organ that helped spur on a civil war and a depression, what's the problem

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

New lib talking point: ice isn't real

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"




This is from way back, but if right after this stone cold steve austin music started playing, hillary might have won all the states.

Also, if she starteds throwing double birds around, and giving random stunners to people.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

loquacius posted:

The Russia Thing is doing actual serious harm now, because it has caused people to decide that Jill Stein, who has many good opinions and some bad ones, is dolchstoss and therefore autowrong

The pathetic/amusing thing is that the "anything Russia posted Facebook memes about is tainted!!" crowd is fulfilling Russia's goals more than anyone else in this equation. They talk about Russia trying to divide us, and then start attacking entire movements because some Russian bots tweeted about them. The only people who are acting divisive as a direct result of Russia's actions are them.

ikanreed posted:

The amazing thing is that reaction is exactly what the analysis( by the kind of bullshit retired intelligence officers that appear on NPR and CNN) says is the goal.

Not some specific policy aim, but undermining the credibility of everything.

This, basically.


You have to question why someone would care so much about "correcting the misconception" that good politics could also be good electorally. For some strange reason I rarely ever see people like you making the same kind of arguments regarding claims of mainstream political positions being better electorally. It's a good example of "stating things that are technically correct in a selective and misleading way to support a particular agenda."

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 17:56 on Jul 2, 2018

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

y ppl in d&d threatening to kill themselves. what did trump/dems do/fail to do

a socialist got popular

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Serf posted:

abolish the CIA and use their budget to help those fleeing the chaos of their actions relocate to america imo

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

This is from way back, but if right after this stone cold steve austin music started playing, hillary might have won all the states.

Also, if she starteds throwing double birds around, and giving random stunners to people.

A personality, any personality at all, would have resulted in a win

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
liberal institutions failing and/or being corrupted by the right has pretty much annihilated the liberal worldview and they don't have the tools to deal with it

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Phi230 posted:

liberal institutions failing and/or being corrupted by the right has pretty much annihilated the liberal worldview and they don't have the tools to deal with it

they're just rocking back and forth saying to themselves "a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
institutions don't do anything in and of themselves and will fail you if you don't think you no longer need to commit political violence against your opponent at any given moment

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Al! posted:

they're just rocking back and forth saying to themselves "a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest a socialist will never win in the midwest"

I'd say I was really looking forward to the day a socialist wins in the midwest but I know the rhetoric will just shift to "a socialist will never win in the South"

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

gradenko_2000 posted:

okay, that's his district, but what's his last name?

:bagl:

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Absurd Alhazred posted:

That's hosed up, friend.

It’s probably true tho lmao

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

loquacius posted:

I'd say I was really looking forward to the day a socialist wins in the midwest but I know the rhetoric will just shift to "a socialist will never win in the South"

Lee Carter already did, tho.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Nice.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
9 seconds in and already revisionism

How could you post yard signs when they didn't have them?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

y ppl in d&d threatening to kill themselves. what did trump/dems do/fail to do

just imagine becoming suicidal over anthony fuckin' kennedy lmao

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

yelling at a wall is very Internet though

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Phi230 posted:

Warsaw Pact except for North America

an organization of north american nations if you will

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
https://twitter.com/feraljokes/status/1013845638931517440

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

loquacius posted:

I'd say I was really looking forward to the day a socialist wins in the midwest but I know the rhetoric will just shift to "a socialist will never win in the South"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_Socialism

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

Lee Carter already did, tho.

that's why they're not currently saying a socialist will never win in the south

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

its almost like the libs twist themselves into knots to explain why their ideology hasn't died

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