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Your Computer posted:Yeah seriously. I've seen so many people be like this is super dark, nothing is sacred, yadda yadda and it's just... did they even pay attention? Not only is the achievement named metamorphosis but the sounds you hear are definitely not sad sounds, they're happy sounds. The game didn't pull some "sike u were bad" I totally disagree. Metamorphosis and the Grubberfly pin are both deliberately misleading setups to the punchline that he just ate them. It's funny. The happy one is the Grubfather himself.
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Regy Rusty posted:I totally disagree. Metamorphosis and the Grubberfly pin are both deliberately misleading setups to the punchline that he just ate them. It's funny. The happy one is the Grubfather himself. you can literally hear the grubs making happy sounds
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Jul 2, 2018 19:28
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Grubfather endgame: Both now and at launch I saw people talking about the Grubfather eating the grubs or whatever. When I went back with all the grubs he just gave me the rewards and nothing happened. I left and came back and they were all just chilling there. Is there something I have to do to make whatever everyone else is seeing happen, happen?
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Jul 2, 2018 21:21
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Rest at a bench. Re: Grey Mourner, I tried the Fog Canyon path and it is MUCH better than trying to go through Greenpath. I hosed up the very last jump but that is on me.
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Jul 2, 2018 21:27
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i’m going to guess you’re missing a grub or you hit a bug (lol). did you get the badge?
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Cowcaster posted:i’m going to guess you’re missing a grub or you hit a bug (lol). did you get the badge? Yeah, I definitely have all grubs. I'll try it having rested at a bunch as the post above yours suggested. Thanks.
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Jul 2, 2018 21:29
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Hey all, just picked this up for the switch like other gamers and I'm Loving It. It's such a lush game. I'm only like, halfway into the game (just got the Dream Nail) and I understand that any answers would probably constitute spoilers, but I was reading that the dream stuff was added in a later DLC and was curious how the game handled that scene with the Sleepers before then. Was it just like...a short cutscene and then cutting back out to you in the graveyard?
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RoboCicero posted:Hey all, just picked this up for the switch like other gamers and I'm Loving It. It's such a lush game. the dream mechanics existed from the start, they've just been expanded with time
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RoboCicero posted:Hey all, just picked this up for the switch like other gamers and I'm Loving It. It's such a lush game. The dream gate and two dream bosses were added later, but everything else was there from the start.
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Jul 2, 2018 21:51
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Was the bee hive always there from the start? Just feels like an optional area they patched in after the fact.
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Jul 2, 2018 22:26
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It's always been there.
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^burtle posted:Hive Knight is new but I think the Hive was an OG thing? Yup, that's right. Hive was always there but the boss is new. One of my favorite things about this game is that they have all these unique areas with unique art and assets and they just put them in a out of the way places that most people will miss. It really makes exploring rewarding when you stumble into a place like that.
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Jul 2, 2018 22:54
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I had read that the hive had a visual redesign at some point? Is that true.
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I wish the Switch version had re-mappable controls. When I played through last year on PC, I put slash on the left shoulder trigger, and it worked really well. I’m having trouble with nail arts now that it’s a button. Or, rather, I’m having trouble dashing and double jumping as naturally as I’d like while being charged for a nail art. And was it always the case that soul doesn’t build up against Failed Champion, or is that new? I don’t remember that.
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Jul 2, 2018 23:05
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veni veni veni posted:I went in there with the dark dash and quick focus, so they were pretty much a piece cake all though it took me three tries still. Crystal Guardian 2 is probably the boss I’ve seen the most complaints about in this thread and in surveys he ranks highly as one of the more difficult bosses.
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It's really weird because I would honestly rank him below the big city guard enemies. I have to assume it's down to people running around and making things harder on themselves instead of just hitting him.
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I think I brute forced it with quick nail and just power spammed it or something. Might’ve dodged a few times.
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Darox posted:It's really weird because I would honestly rank him below the big city guard enemies. I have to assume it's down to people running around and making things harder on themselves instead of just hitting him.
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Jul 2, 2018 23:30
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For a while I was able to get by with rushing bosses and mass attacking them while eating the hits, then trying to heal when I have a second. Doesn't work that well for the later bosses to I had to switch it up.
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No Wave posted:people who have trouble with bosses you didn't have trouble with aren't morons. Bosses in these games tend to punish different playstyles differently. It shouldn't be confusing that people approach bosses differently and are punished by different things... People can have different experiences (l find Hollow Knight to be a more stressful fight than Radiance) but there's a pretty big gulf between 'one of the hardest bosses in the game' and 'easiest boss in the game, easier than several regular enemies'. Doing things the wrong way can make them harder (Stalking Devouts!) but its weird how big the gap is for the Crystal Guardian. And yes I am including Gruz Mother, I'm more likely to be hit by her than Crystal Guardian 2.
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veni veni veni posted:I had read that the hive had a visual redesign at some point? Is that true. Yeah they added all the furniture and changed some of the backgrounds.
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Cartoon Man posted:I think I brute forced it with quick nail and just power spammed it or something. Yeah that's how I beat him too. There's no time to heal so just build offense and bum rush him. If I remember right cause it's been a while, the beams do 2 damage but contact damage with him does 1, so its better to get in his grill than get hit by a laser. You only need to be able to dodge a few lasers that way which is easier cause the fight will be much shorter. Also unless they fixed it I'm pretty sure the right most part of the room is safe from almost all of his attacks cept one or two of them JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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Crystal Guardian 2 ranks down there with the Grey Sleeper's quest as stuff I will hold off as long as possible. I never used strategy on him I just whaled on him with whatever charm-combo meant I could win through attrition. Has there been a good flowchart that lays out the critical path of the game, as well as side content, like how some guides did with Super Metroid and Zero Mission?
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JuniperCake posted:Also unless they fixed it I'm pretty sure the right most part of the room is safe from almost all of his attacks cept one or two of them He only has two attacks total so I'm not sure that it would help much. The place to stand is directly in front of him one nail-length away so you can hurt him. He never blocks, counterattacks or moves suddenly and all his attacks are telegraphed so staying next to him is perfectly safe, plus his attacks are room-length lasers with no travel time so there's no reason to move away anyway.
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I eventually brute forced Crystal Guardian via fragile strength and he dropped in seconds . I honestly never got a rhythm with him and still consider him one of the hardest bosses in the game, sans just using cheap tactics by making myself op. Him and Traitor Lord have given me the most trouble by a pretty wide margin. I also think both of them are trash, or at the very least completely at odds with what I enjoy about the game. To me the fun of this game is learning patterns but also the brief openings for respite where you can reposition yourself or pop off a brief healing session and score an extra mask or 2. I've found most of the bosses to be more forgiving in this aspect, and even if they are tough and I die, I walk off going "well, shouldn't have made that jump or got greedy with the healing. Better do x next time instead of y" and I'm generally enjoying myself. With those two I feel like I'm just getting slam hosed all over, taking double damage and getting hit a second time while I'm trying to get my wits about me. I even felt like I had a good grasp on what to do for both of them, but I'll get hit once and it's an instant snowball effect towards death. I found it much harder to avoid CG's lasers than some other people for some reason. Traitor lord is the same deal with the frisbees and double damage, not to mention the run to him is super annoying. I think part of why I find them hard is that I just flat out don't enjoy them and don't want to fight them again because I don't feel like I'm actually making progress towards getting good at them.
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Lol, I finally beat traitor lord using hiveblood and spiderbros! I let the spiderbros and my NPC ally do all the work while I just concentrated on dodging.
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I actually missed the ally  wonder I can still go find him. Only talked to him once I think.
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There's a point near the end of the game where, as far as I could tell, bosses stopped giving you the opportunity to heal, and while I bashed my head on it for a while, after getting past it, I appreciate how it's less of a more demanding execution like the dream bosses, it's just asking you to apply the skills you've been learning the whole game longer and more consistently.
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veni veni veni posted:
Don't worry. The important and most difficult fights in the game are not like that guy. They are absolutely not forgiving but do encourage you to learn the fight and make gradual progress until you get it. Then you want to fight them a couple more times just cause it feels good to execute the fight once you've learned it. Just don't mind all the deaths before that point though! My advice once you get to these kinds of fights (you'll know when you get there, they are all 2+ damage fights) is to focus safety over damage racing. If you can dodge all their attacks its a matter of time before you win but if you get reckless, getting hit even once can cause a chain reaction that can gently caress you over for the rest of the fight. Also for the ally you can still find them. It's just you can't finish their arc now that the traitor lord is dead.
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Ok, I guess I got a bad ending, that particular boss wasn't *too* hard. Reloaded my save after being very salty about it, and took down Traitor Lord (good fight) and Failed Knight (garbage fight designed by garbage jerks), trying to find the next big boss fight after Traitor Lord but I've lost sight of any rails I had leading me around. Also, it doesn't help vs. Crystal Guardian or Failed Knight but in my experience bosses are trivialized by spitting flukes all over them.
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For some dumb reason I thought the dream fights were all end/post game difficulty, so I ignored them until the end of the game. had no idea a bunch of them were really easy. Wish I had just tried some earlier on, because they give you a ton of wagon wheel macaroni ,which I could have used, because I've been like 700 shy of the dream gate for the whole game. Went from 300 I'd farmed from those trees, to 800 in under 5 minutes.
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The trick to cheesing the failed champion with flukes is using the dream nail (and dream nail charm) to recover all your soul between rounds by nailing his dumb face. The flailing attack he does whenever he recovers lasts long enough for you to knock him down again with a full volley of flukes, so after you get him down once you can just trap him in a loop.
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Mister No posted:Ok, I guess I got a bad ending, that particular boss wasn't *too* hard. Get more dream essence. If you need more direction After you get a certain amount of essence you'll be able to awaken the dream nail which will let you use it on some things you weren't able to before. Enjoy the "fun" of the section that comes after that. If you need even more Go to Ancient Basin after you awaken the nail JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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veni veni veni posted:For some dumb reason I thought the dream fights were all end/post game difficulty, so I ignored them until the end of the game. had no idea a bunch of them were really easy. Wish I had just tried some earlier on, because they give you a ton of wagon wheel macaroni ,which I could have used, because I've been like 700 shy of the dream gate for the whole game. Went from 300 I'd farmed from those trees, to 800 in under 5 minutes. The dream fights are endgame difficulty. The ghost warriors are not. Go fight all them and get you some good stuff!
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Yooooo are there any checkpoints in the Path of Pain? I thought I was hot poo poo beating the White Palace.
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Boosh! posted:Yooooo are there any checkpoints in the Path of Pain? I thought I was hot poo poo beating the White Palace. Nope. Staying alive isn't an issue thanks to the infinite soul statues but there's no stopping once you've started.
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Dumb question: do you get anything for maxing out your bank account? I’m thinking of Majora’s Mask where you get a piece of heart for depositing 5000 rupees.
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BIG BUFF MAN posted:Dumb question: do you get anything for maxing out your bank account? I’m thinking of Majora’s Mask where you get a piece of heart for depositing 5000 rupees. Yes you get a pretty good ROI once you max it out.
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