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John Oliver isn't that bad. He's never advocated for killing striking workers, for example.
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drat I got cursed by the thread title
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Fleetwood posted:Hahahaha yes yes ...YES! Hey, I don't remember if I've seen you in the Upstate thread in LAN.
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Fleetwood posted:Hahahaha yes yes ...YES! no biinch Also haven't been on the PS in a while but hope u is doin well
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gradenko_2000 posted:John Oliver is extremely drat liberal which means that even when he calls out the symptoms like payday loans and privatized healthcare, he doesn't really recommend any solutions nor does he identify the causes. a huge issue is he relies on mainstream western sources and those are all, uh, extremely biased against socialism also tbh that video isnt much better because they dont post any sources either really
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Gunshow Poophole posted:no Same to you mang! Gearing up for the next shootmans
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Hey, I don't remember if I've seen you in the Upstate thread in LAN. I do lurk in there but this is the only thread I post in (for better or worse) I basically have zero free time for socializing Thanks Obama!
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Didn't he do some anti-union stuff on Last Week tonight? I haven't watched it for a couple years and used to think it sucked as comedy - the Drumpf poo poo alone, jfc - but thought the show had good mini-segments on stuff like asset forfeitures which normally doesn't get TV coverage. But if this is what the show is nowadays then gently caress that. he is, unfortunately, the only person in the mainstream media that has talked about special funds to date
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Fleetwood posted:I do lurk in there but this is the only thread I post in (for better or worse) Fair enough!
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Al! posted:i don't think i ever saw the drumpf thing and it's adorably quaint 2 me now i actually recommend watching it now 2 understand how libs underestimated trump lol I gave this a fair shot and actually watched the whole thing My conclusion is that I've been deeply spoiled/ruined by CSPAM since nearly every single joke in there has been done far better in here except the bit about Drumpf starting a mortgage company right at the top of the market before it crashed in '08
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John Oliver is the CSPAM of the masses
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https://twitter.com/PayingAttn2018/status/1013942160943706113 Sure, Jan.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Sure, Jan. it's super easily explained: ICE sucks, so you should get rid of it
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SKULL.GIF posted:Dangerous Donald
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imagine 4 trump jokes on the edge of a cliff, Jon Oliver works the same way
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sir could you elaborate on your position of ICE sucks certainly, ICE sucks poo poo.
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centrists in 1840: what if we just reformed slavery instead of abolishing it?
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reforming ICE is the coward's positionRaskolnikov38 posted:centrists in 1840: what if we just reformed slavery instead of abolishing it?
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also lol at all these dumbass centrist "this is a big gamble we might alienate voters" takes when ICE is insanely unpopular with absolutely everyone except the most diehard chuds
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and now we turn to Centrists Through Time 1940: ohh the gestapo is pretty bad but we dont want to lose moderate nazi votes, lets just reform it
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Raskolnikov38 posted:and now we turn to Centrists Through Time 4056: Ro'mxik, the dread malice birthed from the darkness of the cosmos who's every atom desires nothing but death and destruction has made it's position clear, but I believe we can come to a bipartisan compromise
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The Democrats are best-served in purely electoral terms when the conversation moves to healthcare, inequality, and public services. There’s just no question of that. Abolition of ICE is the moral position but it’s not a direct appeal to most non-voters’ material needs.
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centrists in 2024: surely, i should at least be able to own my own toothbrush
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I really want deep dish now, gently caress you guys
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How the gently caress is "reform ICE" easier to explain that "abolish ICE?"
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Slamhound posted:How the gently caress is "reform ICE" easier to explain that "abolish ICE?" because saying you don't want an easy way to procure slaves makes the donor class recoil like they're a vampire being shown a cross
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Slamhound posted:How the gently caress is "reform ICE" easier to explain that "abolish ICE?" Listen, so this organization that hunts down people and grabs them off the streets, and that lies to parents and children to separate them from each other and sends them to literal Camps in the desert hundreds of miles away? This is just no good. It's no good at all. It's rotten from the ground up. So that's why I'm proposing this bill to reform it, to really do the right thing from the ground up, to enforce our Immigration Laws and hunt down people and grab them off the streets and to lie to parents and separate them from their children.
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GalacticAcid posted:Abolition of ICE is the moral position but it’s not a direct appeal to most non-voters’ material needs. you don't have to campaign solely on it, but there's also no reason not to thrown it into your platform because some people dislike children in cages for some strange reason
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Yinlock posted:because saying you don't want an easy way to procure slaves makes the donor class recoil like they're a vampire being shown a cross good
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Yinlock posted:you don't have to campaign solely on it, but there's also no reason not to thrown it into your platform because some people dislike children in cages for some strange reason agreed, and campaigning on “reform ICE” would have the same downside (distracting from fiscal / healthcare issues) without the upside of galvanizing partisans
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ICE didn't exist until 2003 or some poo poo, it makes no sense to say 'reform'.
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anime was right posted:a huge issue is he relies on mainstream western sources and those are all, uh, extremely biased against socialism Plus the criticisms of Oliver's segment are pretty superficial. He wasn't particularly charitable towards Chavismo, but it's still way more charitable than literally every other mainstream media take on it.
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rudatron posted:ICE didn't exist until 2003 or some poo poo, it makes no sense to say 'reform'. yeah, ice is just rebranded INS which was also fairly poo poo I mean who else remembers the heady days of 1999 
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:https://twitter.com/robrousseau/status/1013955621824159745?s=19 There was a good episode of Citations Needed where they talked about the liberal media's tendency to discuss and highlight problems, but always ignore actually solving them (or come up with excuses to postpone solving them or electing people who would). Oliver's show is a good example of this formula, where he highlights various serious problems, but that's it. Things never reach the next stage where you're actually advocating change to fix those problems. It's a very cynical (and unfortunately effective with a large subset of liberals) strategy that creates the illusion that they care about these issues, and people naturally assume that this means they'll do something to fix them. But they won't; they'll just keep in being concerned about them and commissioning more research, while never actually taking action.
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Party Plane Jones posted:yeah, ice is just rebranded INS which was also fairly poo poo Hey now. That was an important time in our history, in which we couldn't allow Castro to have any sort of win, because that would mean that the whole embargo was one of the dumbest things our country has ever done.
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