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Zoro playing JezzBall with Pica's statue was pretty cool.
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my major gripe with sanji is his gimmick was way, way, way too over the top for a while also chopper is probably my least favorite strawhat but holy poo poo oda please give him more moments to shine every other character is Extremely Good And Also My Husband
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Jul 3, 2018 05:28
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This thread makes me feel like I have super low standards because very little bothers me in One Piece. I know most of the criticism comes from a place of love and the fun of analyzing a great story, but most of these things don’t occur to me until I look at various forums. And yes, that includes the birdcage.
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Jul 3, 2018 06:20
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Silver2195 posted:It's odd that he hasn't learned Rankyaku yet. Is Oda deliberately avoiding it because he doesn't want Sanji's fighting style to become too much like Zoro's? Hell Memories is kinda that, tbh. Also the strawhats haven’t finished getting stronger yet between Usopp becoming woke, Nami seducing Zeus and Luffy taking his mantra to the next level, it’s not inconceivable that Sanji’ll master most of the seven arts besides Bullet Finger just by pushing himself enough as a non-fruit user.
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Jul 3, 2018 06:31
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Mumbling posted:This thread makes me feel like I have super low standards because very little bothers me in One Piece. I know most of the criticism comes from a place of love and the fun of analyzing a great story, but most of these things don’t occur to me until I look at various forums. tbh one piece is my favorite Thing, ever, probably. i still think it has issues but its like just so amazing otherwise. the absolute sense of wonder and worldbuilding is rivaled by few series, but i also love punchy people and ensemble casts. one piece is the only thing thats got it all for me.
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Jul 3, 2018 06:33
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Last Celebration posted:Hell Memories is kinda that, tbh. Also the strawhats haven’t finished getting stronger yet between Usopp becoming woke, Nami seducing Zeus and Luffy taking his mantra to the next level, it’s not inconceivable that Sanji’ll master most of the seven arts besides Bullet Finger just by pushing himself enough as a non-fruit user. Sanji has a Sentai suit he hasn't used yet. Never forget this
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Jul 3, 2018 06:40
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anime was right posted:my major gripe with sanji is his gimmick was way, way, way too over the top for a while chopper is exact opposite of that and I love him. I still laugh whenever oda does Chopper Doesn't Know How To Hide gag Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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Jul 3, 2018 06:45
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Mumbling posted:This thread makes me feel like I have super low standards because very little bothers me in One Piece. I know most of the criticism comes from a place of love and the fun of analyzing a great story, but most of these things dont occur to me until I look at various forums. Same. Even the biggest complaints from this thread are mostly just nitpicks to me, particularly compared to other comics I've read which can have very real problems in their writing and presentation. The real complaints about One Piece are all around the other media it's produced. Games, movies, anime, they're the ones that have big issues worth complaining about. The manga itself? It's not perfect but I'll be damned if I can name anything better.
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Jul 3, 2018 06:45
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theres one enormous thing i hate about one piece but i give oda a soft pass because japan is like 30 years behind on every social issue. everything else is yeah, kinda minor gripes. i think a lot of it dwells on the weekly nature of things and oda basically set up a world with so much bullshit that from time to time that bullshit kinda defies suspension of disbelief.
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Jul 3, 2018 07:46
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I miss the combo attacks the crew used to use everyone's gotten to strong 
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Jul 3, 2018 07:53
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Silver2195 posted:Yeah, Asura is ... not very well explained, and rarely if ever comes up again. Some of best Zoro fights are on Skypiea. Zoro vs Brahm and Zoro vs Ohm are real entertaining because it isn’t just a contest of strength. He has to figure out how to reach them when they have both mobility and dangerous weapons which he absolutely can’t get hit by. It looks even better animated because seeing Brahm jump around is just bloody cool to watch.
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Jul 3, 2018 08:54
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Zoro cutting Monet was cool af
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Jul 3, 2018 09:00
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Mumbling posted:This thread makes me feel like I have super low standards because very little bothers me in One Piece. I know most of the criticism comes from a place of love and the fun of analyzing a great story, but most of these things don’t occur to me until I look at various forums. This is me.
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Jul 3, 2018 09:03
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anime was right posted:theres one enormous thing i hate about one piece but i give oda a soft pass because japan is like 30 years behind on every social issue. is it the okama because that makes me shift in my seat but normally oda is pretty great with social issues, fishman island was a huge MLK/malcolm x analogue that i didnt expect in a shounen jump manga
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Jul 3, 2018 09:15
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EmmyOk posted:Zoro cutting Monet was cool af Zoro has had much more interesting combat moments in the new world in general; Monet, Pica and now his badass dagger slice are all cool moments that use his strength in more interesting ways than just hitting someone really hard with fancy visuals.
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Jul 3, 2018 09:24
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I do feel that we're due for a foe that really pushes him to his limits though.
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Jul 3, 2018 09:46
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Zoro has had much more interesting combat moments in the new world in general; Monet, Pica and now his badass dagger slice are all cool moments that use his strength in more interesting ways than just hitting someone really hard with fancy visuals. Also cutting Hodi underwater  Mulderman posted:I do feel that we're due for a foe that really pushes him to his limits though. Couldn't agree more and Wano better have a bunch of awesome Zoro moments and him revealing a new ability/style technique thing. I also hope we get more of those Member of The Strawhat Pirates: X chapters and they're a theme like "The Xth" ones
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Jul 3, 2018 10:23
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anime was right posted:my major gripe with sanji is his gimmick was way, way, way too over the top for a while ya oda went a little too far with it from the okama island stuff through to fishman island. part of it is that he had no mr prince moments for at least as long, so sanji was mostly just a bad joke for a while
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Jul 3, 2018 10:38
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wano is definitely gonna have us see zoro getting sonned by someone who is straight up outskilling him they'll be physically weaker than him and he'll pick up on a technique to overcome them maybe multi-sword iaido techniques are coming.
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Jul 3, 2018 10:58
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the shogun is going to be able to cut through zoros cuts or something batshit of the sorts
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Jul 3, 2018 12:11
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I'd be interested in one of the "normal" human crew getting their hands on a devil fruit and adding it to their arsenal. I don't think we've seen that process explored in detail in the manga, learning the fruit powers and such, especially not from someone with an already high skill level. I think Usopp would be fun with a fruit power and would come up with the most ways to exploit it. Zoro or Sanji with a fruit power added to their ridiculous strength would be wild too. I think it's one of the few power-up methods that would seem like a real surprise this far in, and while I like that the crew has their own unique skills and traits I think that even though it comes with a huge drawback for a pirate it kind of stretches belief to have them all know that superpowers are a bite away and they never seem to show any interest in them.
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Jul 3, 2018 12:21
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I believe Franky and Sanji have already said they prefer to be able to swim, maybe Zoro too Edit: would it even work on Franky? Didn't Kuma lose his paw paw powers after his compete cyborgization? QuasiQuack fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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Jul 3, 2018 12:26
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NowonSA posted:I'd be interested in one of the "normal" human crew getting their hands on a devil fruit and adding it to their arsenal. I don't think we've seen that process explored in detail in the manga, learning the fruit powers and such, especially not from someone with an already high skill level. We did have Kaku and Kalifa eating the fruit just before their battle with the strawhats. But those were highly capable fighters before eating the fruit. So them figuring out how to adapt it into their fighting style makes sense. I don't think any of the establishing cast is going to obtain a fruit power. They all seem pretty set in their way. Sanji has that Germa suit Franky can upgrade himself Usopp has his Pop Greens Nami just got Zeus And I feel a DF would take away from Zoro's goal of becoming the ultimate swordsman.
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Mostly I feel like it would suit Usopp. It's just too much of a really funny and fun situation to have him eat a good fruit and do something insane like legitimately beat Zoro in a sparring match with it, but with a trick that would only work once, or start adding the fruit tricks to his existing arsenal. Basically the existing formula of everyone on the crew having a few moments to shine in any given arc, whether in battle or not, definitely works, but I'm eager to see someone get a more dynamic power-up. All the time-skip power jumps were really cool, and stuff like Chekov's Raid Suit and Zeus charming is certainly a big step in the right direction, but they're basically acknowledged as at the level of the Yonkou now, so I guess now I'm hoping for Usopp to get a fruit power that you might not necessarily expect him to get, and then to develop that into being something super effective just because he's pretty much the top strategy guy in the crew right now, as far as I know. Oh and P.S. bring back Trafalgar Law and have him cruise around with Luffy all the time thanks.
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Jul 3, 2018 13:52
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my favorite straw hat is luffy, due to him always fighting his best for his friends
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Jul 3, 2018 13:56
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tbp posted:my favorite straw hat is luffy, due to him always fighting his best for his friends
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Jul 3, 2018 13:59
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Did Carrot de-graving to avoid Zoro's sword ever get fully explained? Was it to do with her Sulon ability?
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Jul 3, 2018 14:05
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I think that was more of a matter of being a bunny mink. Minks have enhanced capabilities based on their animal counterpart. So Carrot is just really agile. I guess she was bunny hopping.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:08
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QuasiQuack posted:I believe Franky and Sanji have already said they prefer to be able to swim, maybe Zoro too I don't think Zoro cares about being able to swim, but his goal is to become the strongest swordsman, so I don't think he's interested in incorporating non-swordsmanship powers into his fighting style.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:24
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The opening chords of Momentary Life ran through my head when I saw Zoro being sentenced to execution. I feel like I should save it for the fight with the big bad evil guy of the arc, though.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:28
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Just did a read through of the series up to Thriller, and boy howdy it's better than I remembered. So many small, small moments between the arcs like running into Wapol before Drum, or Sanji fighting Mr.2. Or the whole Jaya island up to Skypiea. Heck, I recall hating Skypiea, but even that's not too bad on a re-read. One fun thing to me is that it really sticks out how well the fights are laid out to relative strengths. Like, the crew doesn't really get the poo poo kicked out of them until Arlong, and afterwards there's usually something holding them back. Basically, there's very little super sayian transformations going on, but rather the environment/situation dictates why the Straw hats might be struggling. It always bothered me a lot in Bleach that the fights seemed to always go: - hero vs. villain - hero has upperhand - villain transforms into their real form! - hero is at the end of their rope! - ah but hero has a secret new technique! - hero wins, smiles, passes out ...and in this series that does happen, but the 'transform' or 'technique' bit is usually insight or a situational thing– like Luffy beating lightening man with that giant ball of gold attached to his arm. It's usually not just pulled out of their rear end, basically. tl;dr: I'm just saying I appreciate the extra thought put into the fights, and how it feels significantly more natural. Even if OP does on occasion follow that pattern pretty closely.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:32
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Supersonic Shine posted:The opening chords of Momentary Life ran through my head when I saw Zoro being sentenced to execution. I feel like I should save it for the fight with the big bad evil guy of the arc, though. no. momentary life is pretty good for a warming act.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:32
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Im afraid Oda wont do anything interesting with Zoro since he still has that promise to never lose thing. And itd feel weird if he did lose to someone who isnt a big storyline player.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:36
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if anyone gets a fruit it should be usopp’s kabuto
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Jul 3, 2018 14:36
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Im afraid Oda wont do anything interesting with Zoro since he still has that promise to never lose thing. As I've pointed out, Zoro has lost since then.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:38
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He doesn't have to lose. But It'll be nice to see a fight like the one with Daz Bones or Kaku again. Zoro being pushed to his limits and surpassing those during battle.oddium posted:if anyone gets a fruit it should be usopp’s kabuto This is a good idea.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:43
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Silver2195 posted:As I've pointed out, Zoro has lost since then. - vs. Arlong - vs. Enel - vs. Kuma (at Thriller Bark and Sabaody) But he hasn't lost against another swordsman, so I think his promise still technically stands.
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Jul 3, 2018 14:44
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Silver2195 posted:As I've pointed out, Zoro has lost since then. I always took this promise to mean that he wont lose in a swordfight
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Jul 3, 2018 14:45
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Cat Machine posted:iirc his losses since Baratie have been: he lost to cp9 with luffy on water 7 too. maybe other times as well but idk it does probably mean swordsmen only, if only because otherwise that promise was broken like a day after he made it
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Cat Machine posted:iirc his losses since Baratie have been: But he specifically refused to fight Crocodile because he would lose, and Crocodile isn't a swordsman.
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