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Al! posted:wouldnt be surprised if a lot of them were infowars contributors https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1014176186715508736 fusing it all together in a big ball of suck.
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As a narrative, I don't think "chaos" has much purchase in the current political consciousness. The narrative coming out of the right is centered around "law and order", with the idea that Trump is "enforcing existing laws" on immigration or repealing regulations framed as government overreach. In either case, the narrative is that the government is in control. The left is pushing the same idea, that the government is in control and is wilfully pushing immoral, inhumane immigration policies and intentionally destroying necessary regulatory framework in favor of corporate profits. I think the truth is that there is more chaos than either side wants to admit, but that chaos is a direct result of administration incompetence, so while it is called out some on the left, the left really doesn't want the administration to suddenly get more competent at pushing their agenda so that narrative tends to hide in the background.
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howe_sam posted:https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1014176186715508736 What if Alex jones is qanon
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Epic High Five posted:when your movement is getting dumpstered by Rick Wilson, it's time to hang up ur socks and sandals brandon sighed as he resheathed his katana
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Epic High Five posted:when your movement is getting dumpstered by Rick Wilson, it's time to hang up ur socks and sandals i know he's a ghoul but 'childless single men who masturbate to anime' is on the top 10 quotes of the election
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Alan Smithee posted:What if Alex jones is qanon Qanon is a kid in a coma hooked up to the internet because they got bored of being in a coma and wanted to gently caress with people.
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chitoryu12 posted:This is the best tag. The funniest part is seeing the alt-right twitter crowd try and co-opt it, utterly failing to be funny. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1014175790458720256
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The funniest part is seeing the alt-right twitter crowd try and co-opt it, utterly failing to be funny. this doesn’t even match the theme
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:this doesn’t even match the theme rightwingers don't understand comedy or why things are funny you say!?
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Martout posted:rightwingers don't understand comedy or why things are funny you say!? I don't think Jack Posobiec even knows what civil war letters are.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The funniest part is seeing the alt-right twitter crowd try and co-opt it, utterly failing to be funny. Here's Ben Shapiro's real gutbuster. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1014209838060978176
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We all know that if height could be redistributed Ben would go full Commie in a heartbeat.
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Panzeh posted:Here's Ben Shapiro's real gutbuster. Welfare states have the most guns tho?
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He's getting dragged in the replies. https://twitter.com/crashnburn6/status/1014215858825105408?s=19
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lol, I knew Conversatism generally is unable to do anything but destroy and exploit, but it's pretty dire that not a single one of them can emulate a rhetorical style that is dead easy with trillions of examples
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Dear my wife We are losing the war and poo poo. I was wrong and the enemy is very strong amd highly masculine - ur dead husband
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Jul 3, 2018 20:48
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Tbqh the civil war poo poo is quite creepy at this point. And harder to joke about
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Bullfrog posted:Tbqh the civil war poo poo is quite creepy at this point. And harder to joke about Yeah, and as someone who has a bit of knowledge of the real Civil War, this kind of denigration of the other side's fighting ability was absolutely prevalent in the run-up to the outbreak of war.
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Azathoth posted:Yeah, and as someone who has a bit of knowledge of the real Civil War, this kind of denigration of the other side's fighting ability was absolutely prevalent in the run-up to the outbreak of war. They've been talking up right-wing manliness and talking down leftists since the end of the Vietnam War. It's been going on for longer than there's been an internet.
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i'd say the big red flag would be some kind of bleeding kansas-style event where a rural minority town is massacred by a right wing militia
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In retrospect the Mahler militia poo poo and especially the acquittals after will probably be recorded as a turning point if we get some kind of insurgency or roving, war-making militias going around.
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Al! posted:i'd say the big red flag would be some kind of bleeding kansas-style event where a rural minority town is massacred by a right wing militia I would argue that we're experiencing a Bleeding Kansas event nationwide already, and that it's only a matter of time until there's a similar massacre somewhere. Right now, I'm fearful of that crazyass qanon militia in Arizona doing it, but if not them, it'll be some other group. Zeroisanumber posted:They've been talking up right-wing manliness and talking down leftists since the end of the Vietnam War. It's been going on for longer than there's been an internet. Oh, I know this isn't a new phenomenon, just calling out that it is dangerous to indulge in, even as a joke.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i dunno but there's this theory out there that "chaos" works to trump's advantage in the midterms -- and maybe it did when he was running for president -- but if i were president i wouldn't want articles about violent clashes in the news. y'know? you hear people say trump is like putin and wants to keep people in this state of anxiety all the time, but it's not like the russian security services are fond of riots breaking out. I'd say the metaphor falls down pretty quickly with Trump. (With one exception, and Trump is a smoothbrained dumb-dumb who is a beneficiary, but not in any way the cause.) Putin's mob was quick to realize that governments move slowly, and are very feeble at pushing back at MSM/Social media manipulation, and this was a good place to attack. [Something about the decline in critical thinking skills in the west?] You can also fund chaos by the internet making you stupid principle pretty cheaply. You can also (and this I think is an old propaganda trick) poison information gathering sources through fake news, etc. But as propaganda tactics, (like any sort of tactic) it has limits. In Russia itself, breaking down the rule of law and taking over most info sources was important, as attacking the concept of truth and justice is important to make people accept the perpetual strongman. For a long time chaos tactics were important in trying to keep Ukraine under Russia's thumb, but in the end, these...totally failed. In the 2016 Election, the US fed is as weak and as corrupt as it has ever been, and Putin's mob saw an opportunity to mess with US elections, as Trump was idiotic enough to collude with them. If he lost, the collusion would come out, and the validity of elections would be questioned. If he won, then suddenly the United States has a President that is considered an idiot by all non-US media, and that's a solid a break as you can get for weakening NATO and American Power. The fact that this particular smoothbrain wants to attack America's biggest strengths - its immense economic power - is a bonus. The one parallel to Putin's tactics is Fox News, which allows a fair bit of the US electorate to remain crazytown bannanapants without any sort of reality check whatsoever, and are thus easily manipulated, because when you are grounded in facts in the real world, even tangentially, you tend you only have some degree of freedom of manipulation - beyond a limit it just won't fly. As for chaos, I think it's the only thing you can think as unusual if you don't look back on American history, where chaos was the norm rather than the exception.
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Al! posted:i'd say the big red flag would be some kind of bleeding kansas-style event where a rural minority town is massacred by a right wing militia And probable. Just look at the Qanon brokebrain militia combing through that "immigrant rape camp" (actually just a homeless camp). Hop, skip and a jump to blaming the neighbors as complicit and breaking into their houses like that patriot patrol a few years back.
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It's weird to me because Trumpland is full of fat fucks. I can see them fortifying positions but how would they actually take territory? Machine guns mounted on rascals?
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Kung Food posted:It's weird to me because Trumpland is full of fat fucks. I can see them fortifying positions but how would they actually take territory? Machine guns mounted on rascals? pretty sure they would just have the air force bomb any resistance into hiding before sending in the marines?
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Serf posted:pretty sure they would just have the air force bomb any resistance into hiding before sending in the marines? i think the biggest factors would be control of utilities especially water, and the fact that there are no rural hospitals and few rural doctors left
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Why does everyone think a war would be just ACW with tanks instead of the Troubles across an entire continent
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Kung Food posted:It's weird to me because Trumpland is full of fat fucks. I can see them fortifying positions but how would they actually take territory? Machine guns mounted on rascals? Putting aside the fact that a huge number of Americans are just generically fat, it's not surprising that physically unable people would be drawn to guns and such, since they are violent and intimidating without requiring any effort on the part of the holder. It's a 9mm six pack. To steal a joke, "you constantly prepare for the end of the world and yet cannot climb a set of stairs without gasping"
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StashAugustine posted:Why does everyone think a war would be just ACW with tanks instead of the Troubles across an entire continent Because Americans have a secessionist fetish, even the libs.
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StashAugustine posted:Why does everyone think a war would be just ACW with tanks instead of the Troubles across an entire continent Or Syrian Civil War: American Style
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