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I want to say that they only started doing episodes like that around the season 9 mark, but there was the early episode that starts out being about Homer getting the trampoline and then it suddenly turns into the Do What You Feel Festival plot.
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A lot of the classic era episodes are like that. The main difference is they were usually structured better and the episode would already be at its main conflict by the end of the first act or poised to jump into it immediately at the start of the second. The crappy seasons will not even introduce the main plot until the second act or even jump into a third main plot halfway through the episode.
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Drunken Baker posted:I've taken to watching entire runs of TV shows of late. Like, 2, 3 episodes a night after work as I eat tea and do some chores before my 2nd job. I did South Park and then American Dad and when you watch them all one after another it becomes really obvious when they start slipping. Even if at the time they didn't seem that bad, what with waiting weeks between shows and then a year between seasons. AD never got as bad as South Park and Simpsons. It's still pretty funny
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Jul 4, 2018 12:42
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If I watched the first season of American Dad and found it never funny, is there a better season to try out?
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Jul 4, 2018 12:58
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Scudworth posted:If I watched the first season of American Dad and found it never funny, is there a better season to try out? if you dont think gay aliens and dumb white men are funny you're SOL for american pappi
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Jul 4, 2018 12:59
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Junk posted:I want to say that they only started doing episodes like that around the season 9 mark, but there was the early episode that starts out being about Homer getting the trampoline and then it suddenly turns into the Do What You Feel Festival plot. Fear of Flying also has that problem. It happens in a lot of the weaker classic epsiodes
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Jul 4, 2018 13:01
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Milo and POTUS posted:AD never got as bad as South Park and Simpsons. It's still pretty funny Oh God, yeah, American Dad is still decent. But there was still a slip somewhere around season 9 where it started getting goofier than usual. Scudworth posted:If I watched the first season of American Dad and found it never funny, is there a better season to try out? Season 1 is almost an alien show(pun intended?) compared to season 2 onwards. It felt like they really didn't know what to do with the premise for a while.
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YeahTubaMike posted:they also had an entire conway twitty song, now that i think about it Twice I think. TWICE.
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Oddly enough, season wise (though not episode count wise) South Park got bad right about the same time Simpsons did. That Return of Chef episode was bad bad bad and I think that was like the start of 10.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Oddly enough, season wise (though not episode count wise) South Park got bad right about the same time Simpsons did. That Return of Chef episode was bad bad bad and I think that was like the start of 10. And like The Simpsons its when every episode was about *insert celebrity*. Like, before that they'd have parodies or piss-takes and they'd have to be a bit witty or clever about it. But then it's just Steve Jobs turning up and Maroon 5 or whatever.
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Drunken Baker posted:And like The Simpsons its when every episode was about *insert celebrity*. Like, before that they'd have parodies or piss-takes and they'd have to be a bit witty or clever about it. But then it's just Steve Jobs turning up and Maroon 5 or whatever. The Apple episode only featured "Steve Mobbs" but you'll be glad to know they did an entire episode featuring Elon Musk and how great he is.
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YeahTubaMike posted:they also had an entire conway twitty song, now that i think about it I think they’ve done that twice now with different Conway Twitty songs. They also showed the entire music video for the Bowie/Jagger version of Dancing in the Streets. I honestly can’t even remember the context of that one. Drunken Baker posted:Oh God, yeah, American Dad is still decent. But there was still a slip somewhere around season 9 where it started getting goofier than usual. I still occasionally watch American Dad when it’s on. But I do think the storylines are running a bit thin. How many times can we watch Stan gently caress up and then he has to make a big emotional speech to Francine? That seems to be every other episode.
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American dad season 1 is complete garbage It transforms after that and becomes better. At some point it becomes great
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I couldn't stand American Dad when it started. It was way too transparent with the whole, "The gay one, the talking animal that wants to gently caress the wife" and so on when it just copy pasted Family Guy. That being said, some of the later seasons were pretty funny to me, and they seemed to break far away from being FG2. But I only watched a few reruns on adult swim, so who knows. 
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A friend loaned me a bunch of seasons of American Dad and I felt like it got stale in season six and gave up there.
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You want to watch something truly bad ie something that will make even bad simpsons and the cleveland show look like high loving art try Bordertown. I don't hate Seth as much as most people but good god man what were you even doing involved with that. His work is all over the place
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Milo and POTUS posted:You want to watch something truly bad ie something that will make even bad simpsons and the cleveland show look like high loving art try Bordertown. I don't hate Seth as much as most people but good god man what were you even doing involved with that. His work is all over the place I watched some of that, Hank Azaria played the lead role.
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I've only watched a handful of AD episodes, but they were decently funny and took much better advantage of the cartoon medium than Family Guy ever did. The episode where Steve gets a chubby girlfriend blew my mind.
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Milo and POTUS posted:You want to watch something truly bad ie something that will make even bad simpsons and the cleveland show look like high loving art try Bordertown. I don't hate Seth as much as most people but good god man what were you even doing involved with that. His work is all over the place And yet, it can't be the worst ever animated show because let's remember that Allen Gregory existed. I mean, unless I've blanked out something even more terrible, that one has got to be the bottom of lovely edgy adult cartoons. I think it was released around the peak of Family Guy's popularity when people were apparently desperate for more gay jokes.
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JazzFlight posted:Like, Homer has a dumb idea to sell grease just like when he had an idea to sell sugar Aww, but the grease selling scam is really good stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7SqSd3ZSBU His logic about Marge being the one to buy the bacon is classic Homer
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I will always praise American Dad for teaching me all about Ollie North's gold.
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SEX BURRITO posted:And yet, it can't be the worst ever animated show because let's remember that Allen Gregory existed. I mean, unless I've blanked out something even more terrible, that one has got to be the bottom of lovely edgy adult cartoons. I think it was released around the peak of Family Guy's popularity when people were apparently desperate for more gay jokes. The one on netflix about middle school kids going through puberty is pretty bad
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Fried Watermelon posted:The one on netflix about middle school kids going through puberty is pretty bad Fatmouth or something, yeah. It's pretty light on actual jokes.
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Fried Watermelon posted:The one on netflix about middle school kids going through puberty is pretty bad Oh you mean this one?  That thumbnail kept showing up on my recommendations and grossing me the gently caress out. In my search for that show since I couldn't remember the name, I discovered Matt Groening is developing some fantasy themed cartoon for Netflix, hadn't heard of that till now.
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Looking forward to that new Matt Groening cartoon. It starts next month, and they've got a teaser out that doesn't tell you poo poo about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8vTGcv5Jc
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PostNouveau posted:Looking forward to that new Matt Groening cartoon. It starts next month, and they've got a teaser out that doesn't tell you poo poo about it. it tells you john dimaggio and maurice lamarche are involved.
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JazzFlight posted:Almost all of the plots are lazy recycles of earlier story beats as well. Like, Homer has a dumb idea to sell grease just like when he had an idea to sell sugar and Lisa has to deal with a new classmate voiced by a celebrity (both of these rehashed plots are in the same ep btw). I do remember that episode had the funny trophy case joke TBF.
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PostNouveau posted:Looking forward to that new Matt Groening cartoon. It starts next month, and they've got a teaser out that doesn't tell you poo poo about it. I sure hope they didn't use the best joke for the trailer.
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All of this talk about bad cartoons fox aired alongside Animation Domination reminds me of when they made a Napoleon Dynamite series but it was like 10 years after the movie came out, or something absurd, and I don't even think it lasted a season. How did that even get made?SEX BURRITO posted:I think they’ve done that twice now with different Conway Twitty songs. They also showed the entire music video for the Bowie/Jagger version of Dancing in the Streets. I honestly can’t even remember the context of that one. Remember when FG showed like, a glitch or cheat from Tecmo Bowl, but they just took a random video from Youtube without crediting it and inserted it into the show? I think when Seth or someone was called out on it they just ignored it.
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PostNouveau posted:Looking forward to that new Matt Groening cartoon. It starts next month, and they've got a teaser out that doesn't tell you poo poo about it. Sigh. Animation these days is so detailed and so dead-looking. e: never a bad time to post this  
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Cheapsteaks posted:Remember when FG showed like, a glitch or cheat from Tecmo Bowl, but they just took a random video from Youtube without crediting it and inserted it into the show? I think when Seth or someone was called out on it they just ignored it. Didn't the goon who made that aul "Peanutbutter Jelly" video have a back and forth with the Family Guy people as well? I think they sent him a t-shirt or something dumb.
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Cheapsteaks posted:Remember when FG showed like, a glitch or cheat from Tecmo Bowl, but they just took a random video from Youtube without crediting it and inserted it into the show? I think when Seth or someone was called out on it they just ignored it. I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise me at all. I distinctly remember the moment I went from disliking FG to hating it: there was some episode where there was yet another Peter vs Chicken Guy fight that lasted for like five minutes, and then immediately afterwards Stewie is like "hey Brian check out this music video I made" and then it cuts to another five minutes of stewie's lovely music video. Ten minutes of complete non sequitur with nothing to do with the plot down the drain, in a fuckin 22 minute show.
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THE BAR posted:Fatmouth or something, yeah. It's pretty light on actual jokes. The art style and character designs and all that poo poo looks loving horrendous
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A friend told me "No, Big Mouth is ugly but it's actually really funny" I just nodded and made a mental note to never trust them again.
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Good soup! posted:The art style and character designs and all that poo poo looks loving horrendous It just looks like AD to me. Although I don't recall how much of that McFarlane "open palm when speaking-thing" they do in this. It would be weird to outright copy every detail of another show, but the colour scheme and light stencil reminds me of modern FG/AD. E: Googling "stencil" sure has a.. Surprising first example. THE BAR fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jul 4, 2018 |
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The Cleveland show is good fight me. American Dad is the best one Every once in a blue moon I’ll watch a new Family Guy and I feel like I know every joke before it lands. I haven’t watched more than 3 episodes of post S-11 Simpsons in my life.
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Cheapsteaks posted:All of this talk about bad cartoons fox aired alongside Animation Domination reminds me of when they made a Napoleon Dynamite series but it was like 10 years after the movie came out, or something absurd, and I don't even think it lasted a season. How did that even get made? It got better the fox auto bot or whatever on youtube got the original video taken down under a copyright notice. It went back up in the end not sure how fox settled with the guy prob tried to do it cheaply whatever.
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Big mouth is alright most of the time but other times really cringy and disturbing. I think it would be a good way to show puberty to children going through puberty to break the ice some but as an adult there's way too much stuff in there I just don't want to see. A lot of it comes directly from john mulaney's stand up.
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CodfishCartographer posted:I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise me at all. I distinctly remember the moment I went from disliking FG to hating it: there was some episode where there was yet another Peter vs Chicken Guy fight that lasted for like five minutes, and then immediately afterwards Stewie is like "hey Brian check out this music video I made" and then it cuts to another five minutes of stewie's lovely music video. Ten minutes of complete non sequitur with nothing to do with the plot down the drain, in a fuckin 22 minute show. when you run out of ideas you can apparently either (a) start doing hit-or-miss "experimental" stuff like pasting in an entire conway twitty song or animating a ten-minute non sequitur fight sequence, or (b) just do one of your old plots over again but with a celebrity guest this time who cares i know i prefer the former. might be stupid but at least it's novel
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