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Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Not just unpopular, but outright wrong

Buy a book if you want a story

lol if you buy books

use the library idiot

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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Fried Watermelon posted:

lol if you buy books

use the library idiot

Do they have Star Trek vs X men?

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Imagine thinking a videogame story was good lol

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
I don't care about what other people prefer in games but I personally skip all story and exposition in almost every game. I almost exclusively look for gameplay loops and mechanics that I like and really do not care about backstory, lore or worldbuilding.

It's only a problem when the industry starts to sacrifice gameplay for Story because terrible games like Last of Us sell well due to a large majority of gamers preferring to have 40 hour movies they can get emotionally invested in with gameplay being completely secondary.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


steinrokkan posted:

story > gameplay

grrrrraAAAAAAAAAhhhhhrgghh :argh:

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Open world gaming is dumb and bad for the most part.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

frajaq posted:

grrrrraAAAAAAAAAhhhhhrgghh :argh:

Yeah. A LOT more arrows are required to really get across how much more important the story is compared to the game play, in video games.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


punk rebel ecks posted:

Open world gaming is dumb and bad for the most part.

What you don't like doing the same 3 quests over and over again?

Go kill X Guys
Find this item and bring it back to me
Escort

Lately the Go Kill X Guys has evolved into go kill 3 waves of guys with 1 guy being much stronger than the other. Sometimes he gets a unique voice over.

Kyron
Aug 6, 2013

punk rebel ecks posted:

Open world gaming is dumb and bad for the most part.

They blew my mind when I was younger and GTA III came out but it's been overdone to hell at this point.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


punk rebel ecks posted:

Open world gaming is dumb and bad for the most part.

This is what I'm dreading about the upcoming rear end Creed Odyssey

That I'm gonna get bored constantly going one way to another while the map is still filled with generic stuff to do :corsair:

I'm hoping the RPG elements make up for it

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Rectal Death Adept posted:

I don't care about what other people prefer in games but I personally skip all story and exposition in almost every game. I almost exclusively look for gameplay loops and mechanics that I like and really do not care about backstory, lore or worldbuilding.

It's only a problem when the industry starts to sacrifice gameplay for Story because terrible games like Last of Us sell well due to a large majority of gamers preferring to have 40 hour movies they can get emotionally invested in with gameplay being completely secondary.

Calling The Last of us terrible is such a stone cold dumbass opinion it could only come from a goon. It's hilarious how many of you are still little contrarian high school edgelords that think hating popular thing x makes you cool. Also, TLOU has killer gameplay.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Gameplay and story are both capable of ruining a game depending on how badly they are implemented and how much you're forced to use that bad implementation. A visual novel can be a great game even though you're only picking options at a menu, and a game that has no story whatsoever can be great based purely on the strength of its gameplay. Likewise giving an otherwise good game a terrible story that you cannot skip and are forced to deal with makes the game worse, and putting ridiculous systems in that same visual novel that complicate the game without making it any more fun makes the game worse.

You have both options in Nights: Journey of Dreams, which sucks balls overall. The game has the same number of stages that play like the first game as the first game had, but between each of those you gotta play some incredibly bad bullshit stages just to access those good stages. Like who the gently caress cares I wanna play the good ones, why do this? Well it pads out the game with bad gameplay and bad story, both of which you can't skip. Which is worse? I dunno I just wanted to play more of the same poo poo from the Saturn.

Is there a worse sequel

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Oct 15, 2012

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Fried Watermelon posted:

lol if you buy books

use the library idiot

Lol if you read.

Oral tradition, motherfuckers

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


signalnoise posted:

Gameplay and story are both capable of ruining a game depending on how badly they are implemented and how much you're forced to use that bad implementation. A visual novel can be a great game even though you're only picking options at a menu, and a game that has no story whatsoever can be great based purely on the strength of its gameplay. Likewise giving an otherwise good game a terrible story that you cannot skip and are forced to deal with makes the game worse, and putting ridiculous systems in that same visual novel that complicate the game without making it any more fun makes the game worse.

Hey now, this isn't the common sense opinions thread.

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

veni veni veni posted:

Calling The Last of us terrible is such a stone cold dumbass opinion it could only come from a goon. It's hilarious how many of you are still little contrarian high school edgelords that think hating popular thing x makes you cool. Also, TLOU has killer gameplay.

Last of Us is bad because it wants to be walking dead and walking dead is really bad

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Bholder posted:

Last of Us is bad because it wants to be walking dead and walking dead is really bad

It wishes it were allowed to be The Walking Dead Walking Simulator

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Game that is 85% gameplay and 15% cutscenes is a walking simulator-Goons

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
TLOU is such a boring piece of poo poo, play it once and never touch it again because it's worthless and ultimately none of your choices matter.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Is it a Make Choices game? It looks like a Kill People And Watch Cutscenes game

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

Rectal Death Adept posted:

I don't care about what other people prefer in games but I personally skip all story and exposition in almost every game. I almost exclusively look for gameplay loops and mechanics that I like and really do not care about backstory, lore or worldbuilding.

It's only a problem when the industry starts to sacrifice gameplay for Story because terrible games like Last of Us sell well due to a large majority of gamers preferring to have 40 hour movies they can get emotionally invested in with gameplay being completely secondary.

I agree with this except that I’d replace the last of us with the Witcher 3.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
You'd be insanely wrong to do so. Witcher 3 is an 80 hour movie, not a 40 hour one.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Witcher 3 is the best game ever made up to this point hth.

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

2house2fly posted:

You'd be insanely wrong to do so. Witcher 3 is an 80 hour movie, not a 40 hour one.

Good point.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

basic hitler posted:

Witcher 3 is the best game ever made up to this point hth.

For a clown to wear.
At the circus.
Idiot.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

I skip every cutscene I can and read the story on wikipedia if whatever bleeds through piques my interest.

gameplay > story

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Oldstench posted:

For a clown to wear.
At the circus.
Idiot.

Listen to me buckboy I don't care what you think. You don't have the vast reservoir of experience in gaming required to make that call, and I do. So sit down and shut up!!!!

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

steinrokkan posted:

story > gameplay

Which is why David Cage is my favorite game dev I think to myself as I frothily shart in my own mouth.

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

steinrokkan posted:

story > gameplay

Oldstench posted:

Which is why David Cage is my favorite game dev I think to myself as I frothily shart in my own mouth.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I watched a playthrough of that Detroit game and it had its moments. Androids wanting freedom after gaining sentience is played out, but there were some neat bits of androids' effect on the economy and people projecting onto them when they don't have sentience, and the buddy cop story was cute

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009
Skipping past all the dialog and story strikes me as childish. What really gets me is when people say "If I wanted a story I'd read a book!" which is total bullshit. Those people don't ever read books. They should be thankful that they make stories for their level of comprehension and helpfully include them in the videogames.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



13Pandora13 posted:

I know this is from pages back but "this game's choices actually mattered and I didn't like that," has to be some kind of champion-level unpopular video game opinion.

I don't really see how you got that from my post but okay.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

2house2fly posted:

I watched a playthrough of that Detroit game and it had its moments

Yeah it looks very well-made and the amount of different endings and choices you can make is actually impressive.

Rolled my eyes every time an Android mentioned death and dying though. Like the one who explained "I felt him die, there was fear and coldness"... Motherfucker you just get his parts replaced and he's not "dead" anymore, gently caress off you drama queen you're a god drat robot.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

veni veni veni posted:

Calling The Last of us terrible is such a stone cold dumbass opinion it could only come from a goon. It's hilarious how many of you are still little contrarian high school edgelords that think hating popular thing x makes you cool. Also, TLOU has killer gameplay.

TLOU has good gameplay that isnt explored at all in the single player game. Sources: The fact that they were able to make the multiplayer mode compelling but the single player gameplay is boring

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Jim Barris posted:

Skipping past all the dialog and story strikes me as childish. What really gets me is when people say "If I wanted a story I'd read a book!" which is total bullshit. Those people don't ever read books.

Presumably because they don't want stories.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Y'all quiet down, Mama's playin her stories

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

TheScott2K posted:

Y'all quiet down, Mama's playin her stories

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



I sexually identify as PC gamer and I am currently playuing through TLOU for the first time, and it's much better than the walking dead

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



im pretty upset about being stuck in the basement of this hotel with a bloater and all his friends though

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

I don't really care about the why I'm mowing down hordes of enemies, but I do need the actual mechanics of that shooting to be fun.

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poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



witcher 1-3 are a case study in how great world building, writing, voice acting and all that can overcome a little bad gameplay, but not a lot of it

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