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GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!
I basically monitor this thread to help inform my emmigration decisions. I greatly appreciate being able to read it without google translate.

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Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
Dutch Politics thread is somewhere else friend

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

SplitSoul posted:

Sometimes it would be cool to be international news for things other than horrific submarine murder and racism.
Next up: World's largest child sex slavery ring uncovered.

More fake news from The Failing New York Times.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Retarded Goatee posted:

I'm starting to regret my HeinzHynkel toxx, this election season is already loving awful

What was that toxx again?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





Do it, you fuckers!

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

It's more important to be in power than to have principles. We saw it with SV and Libya and we will probably see it with FrP and this.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Sandweed posted:

It's more important to be in power than to have principles. We saw it with SV and Libya and we will probably see it with FrP and this.

sv gets a bad rap for libya - they followed the un security council recommendation, foolishly, but they were in a serious bind ideologically

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

obviously frp isn't going to do anything about this except whine and shout racisms, though, they have long since realised that they don't actually need to implement much policy

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/status/1014396959694688257?s=19

Swedish political discourse in 2018: Did the holocaust really happen?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

MiddleOne posted:

https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/status/1014396959694688257?s=19

Swedish political discourse in 2018: Did the holocaust really happen?

It's goddamned embarrasing that this needs to be spelled out to supposed adults.

:negative:

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/status/1014403473616572416

Lets interview a professional holocaust denier to get both sides of the issue!













Honestly this election.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

MiddleOne posted:

Honestly this election.

Voter turnout is going to suck rear end if things keep being this dumb.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

MiddleOne posted:

https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/status/1014396959694688257?s=19

Swedish political discourse in 2018: Did the holocaust really happen?

There is not a big enough combined LOL with WTF to describe this.

But I guessed we reached that part of the summer when all competent journalists have gone on vacation and left are the temps.

Potrzebie posted:

Voter turnout is going to suck rear end if things keep being this dumb.

I am afraid we are not even close to reaching the bottom of this barrel of stupidity.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Cardiac posted:

But I guessed we reached that part of the summer when all competent journalists have gone on vacation and left are the temps.

Well most are in Almedalen but I guess there are no guarantees about whomever is holding up the fort in Stockholm/Gothenburg.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




MiddleOne posted:

Well most are in Almedalen but I guess there are no guarantees about whomever is holding up the fort in Stockholm/Gothenburg.

Speaking of Almedalen: Nazis ask for permission to have stands next to HBTQ activists, instead of saying "gently caress off nazis" the police gives them permission, either because they're incompetent or because they agree with the nazis

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Look on the bright side, at least your media knows the difference between NMR and their rag, and use the term nazi to describe them.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

SplitSoul posted:

Look on the bright side, at least your media knows the difference between NMR and their rag, and use the term nazi to describe them.

Give it a year. :smith:

Fox Cunning
Jun 21, 2006

salt-induced orgasm in the mouth
Sweden's probably gonna go further than Denmark, in due time. Wouldn't surprise me at least.

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009
please stop pretending fact checking the holocaust is somehow below the sophistication of political discourse or insulting to the average persons knowledge of history. there are history teachers that barely know this poo poo

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
My dad was in Almedalen just for the day on Sunday (work stuff) and on the way back he was completely alone on the plane. Like, it was he, and the aircrew, that's it.

That's honestly the only nice thing I'll hear about this year's Almedalen. Seriously; we're drawing attention to Holocaust deniers. For gently caress'S sake, people.

I'm reading history at Uppsala and this past spring the great Nazi-expert Heléne Lööw graded my essay on the refugee crisis of 1938. She always had great anecdotes and I would love to hear her take on these past few days.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Can't wait for those fools to show up in uppsala so we can run them out of town again.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

evil_bunnY posted:

Can't wait for those fools to show up in uppsala so we can run them out of town again.

Vi borde återupprätta Universitetets egna fängelse, som 100% var en grej btw.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

BigglesSWE posted:

Vi borde återupprätta Universitetets egna fängelse, som 100% var en grej btw.
lmao, nah. "we don't suffer yer kind round these parts" good enough for me.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

BigglesSWE posted:

Vi borde återupprätta Universitetets egna fängelse, som 100% var en grej btw.

Oregerliga overaller skulle ta all plats.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Maybe we could get some EU funding to send the holocaust deniers on a one way trip to an old concentration camp.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Sounds like it has played out pretty much exactly like Folkemødet. Først som tragedie, sedan som fars.

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
To every dumb-dumb that refuses to acknowledge that the current zeitgeist is empowering actual nazis, please watch.

https://twitter.com/markushankins/status/1014590572965912579

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

https://twitter.com/antteist/status/1014890377864798209

Literally this two year old piece of satire:

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 5, 2018

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



It's insane and terrible that the police did not monitor the nazis and did not prevent them from attacking members of the swedish-israeli association :cripes:

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
So the police gives permission to these walking bags of fight-incentives to do their thing and then not monitor them?

Are the Swedish police cosplaying American police?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

BigglesSWE posted:

So the police gives permission to these walking bags of fight-incentives to do their thing and then not monitor them?

Are the Swedish police cosplaying American police?

It's only brown people and antifa who do bad things, don't you know?

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
Paging Ligur for the NotANazi-take

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

MiddleOne posted:

Literally this two year old piece of satire:


Lol

BigglesSWE posted:

So the police gives permission to these walking bags of fight-incentives to do their thing and then not monitor them?

Are the Swedish police cosplaying American police?
Freedom of speech only applies to bigots and racists. Have to protect their right to infringe on everybody elses.

Gotta protect their own and all that.

Poil fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 5, 2018

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004

by Smythe
Sweden sounds like such a horrible place to be a leftist, oh god

Heard that Stefan Löfven today compared Sweden to fascism of 1920-30s and how people on the left are terrified of voicing their opinions on the net. :ohdear:

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
A group with a documented record of wholesale slaughter of gays CANT EVEN PROVOKE GAYS without mention from the evil politicians. Truly, political correctnes is out of hand.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

pigdog posted:

Sweden sounds like such a horrible place to be a leftist, oh god

Heard that Stefan Löfven today compared Sweden to fascism of 1920-30s and how people on the left are terrified of voicing their opinions on the net. :ohdear:

That is just hyperbole.
I would say that Sweden are one of the best places to be extreme left.

Nazis (the disorganized 200 or so of them) are completely ostracized from society and this is the only way they can make themselves heard.

Meanwhile you can be extreme left ( including convictions) and still make a career within media and public society.
As has been regularly shown, the left have no problems voicing their opinions on the net.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Cardiac posted:


Nazis (the disorganized 200 or so of them) are completely ostracized from society and this is the only way they can make themselves heard.


I'm sure this is a great consolation for the people who were beaten up because they were gay or foreign looking.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Alhazred posted:

I'm sure this is a great consolation for the people who were beaten up because they were gay or foreign looking.

As far as I have understood from the the reporting, this is a failure of the police in not being able to contain the nazis by not being there and being stupid in not realizing that putting nazis next to LGBT is going to be trouble.

I would be perfectly happy if the Nazis rot in jail for the assaults and other crimes they perpetrated.

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.

Cardiac posted:

That is just hyperbole.
I would say that Sweden are one of the best places to be extreme left.

Nazis (the disorganized 200 or so of them) are completely ostracized from society and this is the only way they can make themselves heard.

Meanwhile you can be extreme left ( including convictions) and still make a career within media and public society.
As has been regularly shown, the left have no problems voicing their opinions on the net.

Sure - we don't have a Operation Condor-program put in place to kill off dissenting lefties that challenge the narrative. Our parliamentary left however, is extremely timid in any economic sense. We've got a "social democratic" party raising retirement ages and arguing about loving percentiles of private profits made by public investments. I don't think even V has made a stink about nationalizing NKS and just noping out of the entire OPS-scheme for all eternity.

Our represented left is extremely liberal-left. Nobody is working towards a common ownership of anything and making everybody a stakeholder in our society. They're extremely progressive in terms of entertaining your own radical identity but won't do jack poo poo to solve any actual issues. V is the party of Rossana Dinamarca, not Amineh Kakabaveh.

You'll see journalists going on and on about the benefits of migration, don't be mean to homosexuals etc, but you extremely seldom see a single article talking about anything that might upset private stakeholders.

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Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Gee, and here I thought V did their best to outlaw profits on private schools?
Too bad there was not a parliamentary majority for it.

As for the economic parts, since V is the best you get in forms of socialism in Sweden, I would say there is a certain lack of people wanting to vote for something like that. But feel free to start a new party on that. We are a democracy after all, with all the pros and cons.

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