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Bone Crimes
Mar 7, 2007

Soulex posted:

On camera stabilziation is waaaaay more important than post. That falls under the rule of taking good video during the shoot to save yourself work later. That being said, I have no idea which is superior. I'd lean to gopro as they have been in the market a lot and the stabilazation on my Go Pro 2 is good enough. Unless you are really good at stabilizing footage. I can in AVID but Premiere is a crap shoot. Ymmv.

I reckon if you shoot shaky 4k and stabilize it, its gonna look off. I'd look for something like a 1080 60p. I think having a higher frame rate might help some? I hated stabilizing integrated footage. It always looked like it was underwater.

I dont think the specific mount matters. You could probably 3d print something if you wanted.

Yeah, this does seem easier- The on-camera stabilization is optimized for the lens/camera, and likely is pretty good. I do have software that does stabilization ok, but if the cost delta is $150 for a device that might get damaged, I'm not sure it''s worth it for stabilization.

spog posted:

I'm far from an expert, but I'd consider getting some like a YI cam and using the money saved against a equivalent GoPro to buy a stabilised gimbal.

Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going for a chest mount, and some professional mountain bikers do ride with a chest gimbal, and it looks fantastic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5FA15bzAU&t=54s)

The catch is that if you crash, you have a whole lot of equipment to fall on, and hurt yourself with. Still....

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ReverendHammer
Feb 12, 2003

BARTHOLOMEW THEODOSUS IS NOT AMUSED

Nostalgic Cashew posted:

Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going for a chest mount, and some professional mountain bikers do ride with a chest gimbal, and it looks fantastic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5FA15bzAU&t=54s)

The catch is that if you crash, you have a whole lot of equipment to fall on, and hurt yourself with. Still....

From what I've seen the stabilization on the Hero 6's is pretty good. But depending on cost the Yi/gimbal combo might be the better choice for what you're doing.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Look into the samsung gear 360 camera too if you are on a budget.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
Sometime down the road I might replace my first gen EF-S 55-250 with a better regular to medium telephoto zoom. Stepping up to a 70-200 seems like the obvious choice, but I’d prefer something a bit wider at the low end. Any options come to mind? 3rd party is ok.

I have a feeling that anything “better” than what I have now is gonna be longer and intended to be used with full frame or crop.

e: I’d be willing to loose some length at the long end, as I’ve got a Sigma 150-600 that I use if I need any significant reach.

President Beep fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jul 5, 2018

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I think you just described canon's 24-105.

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

President Beep posted:

Sometime down the road I might replace my first gen EF-S 55-250 with a better regular to medium telephoto zoom. Stepping up to a 70-200 seems like the obvious choice, but I’d prefer something a bit wider at the low end. Any options come to mind? 3rd party is ok.

I have a feeling that anything “better” than what I have now is gonna be longer and intended to be used with full frame or crop.

e: I’d be willing to loose some length at the long end, as I’ve got a Sigma 150-600 that I use if I need any significant reach.

if you're sticking to aps-c, if you're willing to go with 2 lenses, the sigma 17-50 2.8 paired with the 50-150 1.8. I'm also a big fan of the 17-70 2.8-4 for extra walkaround reach if the variable aperture isn't a problem for you.

But yeah the 24-105 for full frame.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
The 50-150 might fit the bill. The 24-105 crossed my mind, but the range is a little low.

Thanks for the feedback.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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50-150 1.8? Do you mean the 50-100 1.8? There was an older 50-150 2.8 which I have, that’s basically a 70-200 for crops.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

President Beep posted:

Sometime down the road I might replace my first gen EF-S 55-250 with a better regular to medium telephoto zoom. Stepping up to a 70-200 seems like the obvious choice, but I’d prefer something a bit wider at the low end. Any options come to mind? 3rd party is ok.

I have a feeling that anything “better” than what I have now is gonna be longer and intended to be used with full frame or crop.

e: I’d be willing to loose some length at the long end, as I’ve got a Sigma 150-600 that I use if I need any significant reach.

There's a Tamron 18-200 but it's poo poo for sharpness at longer zoom levels and wide open at any length.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

EL BROMANCE posted:

There was an older 50-150 2.8 which I have, that’s basically a 70-200 for crops.

This is what I took it to mean. How do you like the 50-150? It's significantly faster than my 55-250, so there's an improvement right there.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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I like mine a lot, it’s every bit as big and heavy as a 70-200 so you lose the advantage that DX lenses are often a bit more compact but it’s not something that bothers me. I think emulating the same field of view as a 70-200 on full frame is good as I use the wide end plenty. I think I paid in the region of $400 for mine from memory, second hand on eBay. Not always the easiest lens to find (I have the OS version - the first one doesn’t have that).

Now, I also have the 18-35 1.8 Art which I love, so I’ve always been tempted by their 50-100 1.8 and lose the extra tele length. Would be fun to try and compare the two of them together.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

EL BROMANCE posted:

their 50-100 1.8

I've been slobbering over that too. Being an Art lens, if the image quality it produces is good, then I'd be willing to just crop in post to make up for the lost focal length.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

EL BROMANCE posted:

I like mine a lot, it’s every bit as big and heavy as a 70-200 so you lose the advantage that DX lenses are often a bit more compact but it’s not something that bothers me. I think emulating the same field of view as a 70-200 on full frame is good as I use the wide end plenty. I think I paid in the region of $400 for mine from memory, second hand on eBay. Not always the easiest lens to find (I have the OS version - the first one doesn’t have that).

I have a first gen 50-150mm and I like it a lot. It's a solid lens and it performs pretty well in my opinion.
I think OS is worth the extra cost, though.

On a corp body, it is a far more practical than a 70-210

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Glad to see both lenses getting some love here! I think with a modern crop body and buying the right lenses, there's less reasons for normal photographers to feel they have to 'upgrade' to full frame than ever. If it's how you make your money, or you're into specialist stuff and have money to burn then sure, but there's some really cool crop stuff these days and I hate seeing people told you have to get FX glass "for when you upgrade" as it essentially forces you into a new body purchase because the lenses people have just don't suit their camera as well.

Smoove J
Sep 13, 2003

yeah Meade's ok I spose
I just got an upgrade from the Fuji Repairs Dept. I sent in a broken X100 and they sent me back the X100F, a happy surprise.

I want to keep from happening what forced me to send in the original camera from happening again. I always keep the camera in its case, the leather LC-X100, and I thought that would provide enough protection for whatever may occur. A month ago, I was out hiking and, camera case in hand, I slipped while going downhill. I caught my fall with the camera case and though it protected me it did not protect the camera.

I need a recommendation for a pretty tiny heavy duty case. I don't really know where to begin... the LC-X100F is the perfect size, but I just know it won't provide the protection I may require. I looked at Peak Design Sling 5L, it's too big... Think Tank Mover 5 is a better size. I don't know. What are some good options?

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
A soft case like those you mentioned from Peak Design and Think Tank won't protect your camera if you have the same thing happen again - landing your weight directly on the camera in its case when you fall. On the other hand, a proper hard case that would protect your camera in that situation, like something from Pelican, is a pain in the rear end to actually use when you're walking around - if the camera is in the case, it's safe, but you're not taking any pictures with it.

It's the classic dilemma of camera protection - anything rugged enough to keep the camera safe is going to seriously get in the way of actually using the camera.

Buy better boots, don't fall down so much. :v:

Smoove J
Sep 13, 2003

yeah Meade's ok I spose
I don't mind keeping it in its case, usually I'm too busy huffing and puffing up the mountain to think about taking photos. It's when I can make an excuse to stop, relax, and take a break that I could then bust out the camera. I'll still have this scuffed up LC-X100 case (which does fit the new model) to hold it for when I'm on more level ground. Pelican, though?

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
I got a small thing of filters from my gf’s dad that were lying around his attic and they seem to be in good condition! A few questions though:

There’s a polarizer in there, but I can’t tell if it’s circular. Any way to tell one way or the other?

There were two close-up filters, are those worth using for taking macro stuff or will they obliterate IQ?

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

CodfishCartographer posted:

There were two close-up filters, are those worth using for taking macro stuff or will they obliterate IQ?

One of those dealies with its own lens? I've got one of those. Had better results personally with macro rings.

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

President Beep posted:

One of those dealies with its own lens? I've got one of those. Had better results personally with macro rings.

Yeah, basically just seems like slapping a magnifying glass to the front of a lens.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
Aircraft flypast today so dug out the DSLR as my m43 doesn't have any long lenses.

Despite being put away fully charged, both batteries were dead. So dead that they couldn't be recharged. Shows how often I value weigh over ergonomics.

Now trawling around for batteries.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Smoove J posted:

I don't mind keeping it in its case, usually I'm too busy huffing and puffing up the mountain to think about taking photos. It's when I can make an excuse to stop, relax, and take a break that I could then bust out the camera. I'll still have this scuffed up LC-X100 case (which does fit the new model) to hold it for when I'm on more level ground. Pelican, though?

I think you'd be better carrying the camera in a way you're not likely to fall on it than humping around a pelican case.


CodfishCartographer posted:

I got a small thing of filters from my gf’s dad that were lying around his attic and they seem to be in good condition! A few questions though:

There’s a polarizer in there, but I can’t tell if it’s circular. Any way to tell one way or the other?

There were two close-up filters, are those worth using for taking macro stuff or will they obliterate IQ?

Close up filters can be good. But they could be crappy ones or something, no way for use to know. Since you already have it... just try and find out?

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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CodfishCartographer posted:

I got a small thing of filters from my gf’s dad that were lying around his attic and they seem to be in good condition! A few questions though:

There’s a polarizer in there, but I can’t tell if it’s circular. Any way to tell one way or the other?

There were two close-up filters, are those worth using for taking macro stuff or will they obliterate IQ?

If it doesn't say, and given the age, it's probably linear, not circular.

Rando close-up filters are usually pretty lovely. By all means have some fun with them, image quality isn't everything, but the Canon 500D is the best close-up filter on the market by leaps and bounds.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
Back when I was dumb(er) I bought one of those kits with my T6i that you can get on Amazon. Came with a Vivitar macro screw on--it's poo poo.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Amazon's doing a 1-day sale on Pelican cases of quite a few different sizes if you're in the market for one.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

CodfishCartographer posted:

Yeah, basically just seems like slapping a magnifying glass to the front of a lens.
I've got a couple of sets of these in different sizes. I haven't used them much since I bought a decent macro lens, but they're not bad and it's fun to play with them. The best way to figure out if you like them is to take them out and use them. Find a nice patch of wildflowers and get all up in the faces of some bugs.

****
Pelican makes little cases as well as the big armoured suitcases, they probably have something sized about right for your Fuji.

Smoove J
Sep 13, 2003

yeah Meade's ok I spose
I'm really thinking this pelican case might be good for what I need when mountaineering... waterproof, crushproof, weight isn't too heavy. Thanks for the idea! Any other competitive brands, or is this the one?

This one just barely fits the x100f http://www.pelican.com/us/en/product/cases/micro/1050
this one has a little room to spare http://www.pelican.com/us/en/product/cases/protector/1120

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
The 1120 is overkill, you could pick-n-pull the foam inside to fit your delicate wineglass, close it, and toss it down three flights of stairs then enjoy your lovely glass of chablis at the bottom. Two big, stiff, annoying latches are for keeping it closed when it falls out of truck on the highway, and you'd get tired of them quickly.

The 1050 is good, if your camera fits. Don't get black, get some other colour that won't disappear when you put it on the ground and look away for a second.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I've had pelican latches pop open from a sub 3 ft fall out of a truck, spilling my lenses and camera all over the parking lot. My coworker shoved it out the back of the truck rushing around to grab something and I still don't trust anyone other than me to unload the car.

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004

I keep a handful of heavy duty zip ties in the bottom of my 1520s so whenever I'm transporting the cases outside the office I can zip tie them shut as well, just in case.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
When l worked at Pratt and Whitney their field inspection kits would go in pelican cases with zip ties supplenting the latches.

That doesn't stop the TSA from having a good ol fashioned rummage though. The TSA has cost the company millions because they handle sensitive equipment like gorillas.

When I was there, I did suggest transporting the cases with an unloaded firearm with some serious response. Once you claim a firearm in your luggage, the TSA aren't allowed to open it.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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The easy way to do that is a flare gun. Counts as a real gun as far as the TSA is concerned, but usually zero restrictions as far as anyone else is concerned.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
That was the idea. Some of these cases would go to military bases so putting one in that shot ouchies was off the table. Also risk mitigation blah blah blah.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I've started putting carabiners on mine — zip ties wouldn't have helped in this situation since we were getting in and out of them frequently.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
It's a tradeoff between useability (maximum = camera in hand, hand in front of face, eyes at viewfinder) and security (maximum = camera at home). Do what you need to do to put yourself and your possessions on the point of the tradeoff that you find most suitable for you.

Me, I walk around with my DSLR dangling from my wrist on its strap (wrapped a couple of times around and normally caught on my watchband), and bang it into trees, railings, doorways, etc. Plus it gets rained on, splashed on, and generally is out there getting beat on. Because I want to be able to snap it up to my face quickly. But I'm not going to tell anybody else how to use their camera.

I ziptied the giant Pelican case we shipped our $70K scientific instrument around in, when it was going on the plane. But when we put it away each night, it was just under a tarp because that drat case was too drat big and heavy and awkward and those latches were chewing up my hands. I'm on record (in the promotional documents the manufacturer of that instrument brings to scientific conferences) as stating that instrument was the only piece of field equipment we used that summer that DID NOT fail in some stupid way, and I'm going to credit equally the quality of manufacture, the protective steps we took for transport (i.e. the Pelican case), and our prioritization of the most vulnerable aspects of the device for protection - we made sure the intake hose never pulled in water (it's a gas analyzer, it pulls in air through a long hose to measure concentrations of trace gases in atmosphere).

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I just gave TSA a headache with my camera carry-on. Nothing exotic in there, just three lenses a body and a bunch of batteries but dude had to winch the belt back and forth like five times before he gave up and handed it off for a manual inspection.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
The last few times I carried my camera on I just told the guy or gal at the scanner it's packed with camera stuff, they usually just nod and either open it up and look or stuff it in the scanner anyways and that's the last anyone mentions it in security.

Hello Spaceman
Jan 18, 2005

hop, skip, and jumpgate
Over the last five years I’ve had a 100% hit rate for my camera gear or me getting swab-tested at security for international flights. One off-hand comment I’ve heard is that the metal alloys used in bodies (magnesium specifically) triggers certain sensors.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Yeah I’ve had my whole carry on swabbed, and that was a domestic flight.

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Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Ive had them fly my camera but not my clothes or sleeping gear

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