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FrozenVent posted:It’s about 4 kilometres from the entrance, with long chunks of that flooded. Piping anything in would be a challenge. Ouch. Just pipe in some nitrogen and save them the suffering. edit: That sounds extraordinarily cruel. I hope they make it out so the parents can beat the coach's rear end. a mysterious cloak has a new favorite as of 20:39 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:They better change their team name to The Morlocks after this. If they eat someone they can be The CHUDs
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Aesop Poprock posted:That’s a long loving way just for walking and crawling through a cave. What the gently caress was the coach thinking first off, and how the hell do you even make that underwater?? Kudos to the coach for presumably keeping the kids together and alive but that sounds like a terrible idea even if the cave wasn’t flooded
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they went in when the cave was dry. it rained, flooded, and trapped them. all of this is in the article.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:19
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In other horrifying "brains are fucky" news, this happened again: http://kpic.com/news/local/police-child-left-unattended-in-vehicle-dies-roseburg-woman-arrested  The Washington Post had an outstanding article about these deaths about a decade back now https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...m=.ebc6ad662b7e Everyone thinks they could/would never forget their own child until it happens.
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Jul 4, 2018 03:45
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That's not the face of someone I would see any point in sending to prison.
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Jul 4, 2018 04:13
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We had a similar case in Quebec last week, don’t know if the father was arrested or not, but it was being discussed.
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I doubt there's anything you could do to her right now that could punish her more than she is punishing herself.
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Pick posted:That's not the face of someone I would see any point in sending to prison. I have about 300 book-in photos in my filing cabinet and that one is sadder than like 298 of them. I remember that long article talking about the swiss cheese model. The holes line up and everything falls through and tragic accidents happen.
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Yeah, sending these parents to jail is... Just counter productive. It wasn't negligence like keeping your child in their crib 24/7 until their bedsores cause a blood infection. It isn't abuse like whacking them with a towel rack until their skull fractures and sends bone shards into their brain. It's a horrible, horrible mistake caused by monkey brains being terrible autopilots in some cases.
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Sometimes it's like that dude from Georgia that had a search history full of, "how long for a dog to die in a hot car" though.
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Jul 4, 2018 12:06
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Yeah but if this lady is a nurse practitioner then 10/10 she is just overworked.
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Untrustable posted:Sometimes it's like that dude from Georgia that had a search history full of, "how long for a dog to die in a hot car" though. He did watch some vet video about heat effects on animals twice but it seemed like a random thing that he came across not someone researching how to murder a child in a car. Not to say he was a good guy he's a total sleaze that was cheating on his wife with an underage girl but there's pretty much zero proof he killed his kid on purpose. It's clear the cops made stuff up to beef up their search warrant and the media took that and ran with it.
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Pirate Radar posted:Unnerving: you’re the victim of a horrific assault. At a meeting with the SVU cop in charge of investigating your case, he basically blows off doing his job and, oh yeah, asks how much you’d charge to blow him. wow cops taking advantage of victims and abusing them? this is unprecedented
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Darkhold posted:Yeah this turned out to be bullshit. There was a claim in the search warrant that he admitted to an officer that he looked up child deaths in cars. This same warrant claims his wife said she looked it up as well. This for some reason was never presented at trial and his search history showed he was looking up family trips and cruises. He called a link to the childfree reddit gross. He did look up surviving jail but that's probably because he was banging an underage girl.
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Kanine posted:wow cops taking advantage of victims and abusing them? this is unprecedented Yeah, I know, it's just still happening and still relevant to this thread. Also the "making them fight" thing is kind of unusual to say the least.
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13Pandora13 posted:Everyone thinks they could/would never forget their own child until it happens. I loving wish I could think like that. Instead I'm so haunted by the concept that I spend every car trip with my daughter having a low-level panic attack.
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Sarcopenia posted:A podcast named Break Down had a whole season about the trial. He should not be in jail for killing his son. Guess nobody really wants to go to bat for a guy that did the actual things he did though. Can't say it's a hill I'd die on.
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Jail isn't the nicest place for people that killed kids. I think there should be some sort of punishment (maybe probation or something), but jail just feels a little too cruel for a grieving parent.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Jail isn't the nicest place for people that killed kids. I think there should be some sort of punishment (maybe probation or something), but jail just feels a little too cruel for a grieving parent. what purpose would probation serve? losing your kid to your own negligence is already a far worse punishment than community service, punishment by the state will do nothing to prevent future accidents, and if the parents did a murder instead of it being a tragic incident of how human brains work then probation isn't justice in that case either. like either probation is too much or too little punishment and i dont see what the point would be beyond "i feel a deep need to punish somebody in some way"
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Solice Kirsk posted:Jail isn't the nicest place for people that killed kids. I think there should be some sort of punishment (maybe probation or something), but jail just feels a little too cruel for a grieving parent. Her child is gone forever because of her. What other punishment is needed? What other punishment would even register?
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Why does she need to be punished anyway? Revenge?
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Yeah, you guys are right. If these incidents are proved to be an accident then any sentence would just be petty.
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13Pandora13 posted:In other horrifying "brains are fucky" news, this happened again: http://kpic.com/news/local/police-child-left-unattended-in-vehicle-dies-roseburg-woman-arrested Car death is the new putting your infant up on a hill for the scavengers.
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Brawnfire posted:I loving wish I could think like that. Instead I'm so haunted by the concept that I spend every car trip with my daughter having a low-level panic attack. Unfortunately I imagine there's little chance that a constant state of anxiety about it could decrease the chance that it happens. I try to be mindful about it and to make it a habit to check every time consciously, though even that can be prone to failure I'm sure.
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I liked the idea of having a little dongle you put on your kid and if you get X number of feet away it alerts you by phone or something. Could be handy just in general.
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FrozenVent posted:Why does she need to be punished anyway? Revenge? Yes, that's how America's justice system usually operates.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah, you guys are right. If these incidents are proved to be an accident then any sentence would just be petty. Right sentiment, but the burden is for the the state to prove it was deliberate. You can’t “prove” an accident, you can only show the evidence doesn’t support it being deliberate.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I liked the idea of having a little dongle you put on your kid and if you get X number of feet away it alerts you by phone or something. Could be handy just in general. The downside is becoming dependent on this. One day the battery dies, it malfunctions, your service plan lapses, it goes off erroneously and you learn to ignore it, etc. There's a ton of products on the market to help prevent these deaths but nothing is a guaranteed fix. A shoe in the back seat is the free and dirty method but again, nothing is "swiss cheese" proof.
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Even if you don't have your kid make it a habit to go into the backset leave your ID card to get into work there or your energy drink or whatever poo poo you somehow find more important than your child and then you'll check it every time
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Darkhold posted:Yeah this turned out to be bullshit. There was a claim in the search warrant that he admitted to an officer that he looked up child deaths in cars. This same warrant claims his wife said she looked it up as well. This for some reason was never presented at trial and his search history showed he was looking up family trips and cruises. He called a link to the childfree reddit gross. He did look up surviving jail but that's probably because he was banging an underage girl. In this case I'm okay with him being in jail.
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Looks like West Mesa still has secrets buried there. http://www.koat.com/article/human-remains-found-could-have-ties-to-infamous-west-mesa-murders/22039579
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Pvt.Scott posted:I remember a time when I’d page through my father’s medical journals during breakfast before grade school. Despite my parents keeping a very tight grip on my media consumption, I still managed to render myself mostly immune to gore and body horror. My teachers were always concerned about my extremely violent doodles in class. I was just like, “that’s what would happen if a ninja turtle actually sliced you with a sword.” (I was really into the cartoon and the kid-friendly comics for TMNT) I didn’t see what the big deal was. I developed a similar fascination with medical books after I had chicken pox in 2nd grade, but most of the photos were too disturbing for me. My mom let me read them as much as I wanted because this was clearly a sign I was going to grow up to be a brilliant, rich doctor (spoiler: I didn't). There was this one American Medical Association family medical guide that had all the horrifying pictures in a small section right in the middle, and after I scared myself by accidentally flipping to those too many times, my mom cut those pages out and stuck them in a drawer somewhere. Almost a decade later, our neighbors had a kid who was entering school, and they asked my mom if she had any old school supplies she could give them... aaaand that's how this poor kindergartner ended up with a folder full of disgusting medical photos.
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I hope this hasn't been posted before, I can't keep track of what caves this thread has and hasn't talked about, but boy! Do I ever hate the video on this one!
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Back in 1974, a young woman was found murdered in the Stanford University campus church with an ice pick embedded in the back of her head and a three foot long candlestick in her vagina. There have been a shitton of speculation throughout the years, ranging from a satanic cult being involved to her husband (unrelated but he later became a psychologist who worked with traumatized children) or a flutist who was seen in the church on the night of her murder. The truth is far simpler. Earlier this week, a more advanced DNA test proved that the murderer was the campus security guard who discovered her body. Unfortunately(?), he killed himself when the cops showed up to arrest him. https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06/28/sheriff-suspect-in-infamous-1974-stanford-chapel-murder-shoots-self-as-detectives-close-in/
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Mysteries getting solved left and right this year. I still wish that DB Cooper one had been real and not some crazy person divining tea leaves.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Mysteries getting solved left amnd right this year. I still wish that DB Cooper one had been real and not some crazy person divining tea leaves. 
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