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Ultimate Marvel overall was good, then bad, then good, then ok. The early stuff was excellent, especially Spider-Man and Ultimates. It went off the rails around Ultimates 3, as I recall, when Hawkeye got his death wish.
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Mover posted:Aunt Petunia I think it was great that Aunt Petunia actually turned out to be really hot looking. Nobody expected that. 
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Jul 5, 2018 01:26
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hang on the thing was spiky?
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Jul 5, 2018 01:34
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quite stretched out posted:hang on the thing was spiky? during the defalco era I believe.   They both got exposed to a bunch more cosmic rays so Thing is Thing^2, and Sharon Ventura got thinged too.
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Jul 5, 2018 01:43
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Where's my World War Things crossover already.
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Jul 5, 2018 02:03
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Everyone always forgets Ultimate Adventures as a pretty okay Ultimates title
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Jul 5, 2018 02:14
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Rhyno posted:Where's my World War Things crossover already. Thing Island
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Jul 5, 2018 02:30
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No Thing's Land a gross miscalculation in parallel parking ends blocking Yancy Street from the rest of the world the Thing has to keep order and reclaim it piece by piece
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Jul 5, 2018 02:40
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Rhyno posted:No you were better off. It happens in the Ultimate Doom/Mystery/Trashcan trilogy that Bendis wrote where Reed is revealed to have become a villain. Ben's skin flakes off and he's normal except now he can like power up and he's purple and glowing and has all his Thing powers. Are you sure you're not confusing him for the Infraggable Krunk?
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Jul 5, 2018 02:52
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I like how I even noted it was BENDIS and you guys still don't buy it.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:24
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I actually thought the Ultimate Ben Grimm thing where his rock form was a cocoon for his real powers showing up was pretty cool. I mean out of context it sounds silly but as I was reading it I liked it as another divergent story taking the Ultimate books in a different direction than the 616 line.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:25
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Yeah on paper it sounds like a groovy idea. But it just looks so bad...
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Jul 5, 2018 06:17
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Have some random funny panels I came across on imgur.  
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Jul 5, 2018 06:25
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I feel like I've said it before but that first page is just Archer.
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Jul 5, 2018 06:46
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ImpAtom posted:I feel like I've said it before but that first page is just Archer. Archer is Oliver Queen, Bruce Wayne is Batman. You maroon, you complete nincompoop.  EDIT: Sarcasm. graham cracker fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 07:05
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Synthbuttrange posted:during the defalco era I believe. Englehart made him all spiky; I think he was back to being regular old Ben Grimm for most of Simonson, then he ends up rocky again in time for DeFalco's run.
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Jul 5, 2018 08:20
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TheCenturion posted:Ultimate Marvel overall was good, then bad, then good, then ok. The early stuff was excellent, especially Spider-Man and Ultimates. "Off the rails" is an understatement. Going from Ultimates 2 to Ultimates 3 is literally just a whole different comic, like the two barely even have plot continuity between them, the art is horrendous, and nothing that happens makes sense. Probably one of the starkest sea changes in the quality of a comic I've ever seen.
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Jul 5, 2018 08:40
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Wheat Loaf posted:Englehart made him all spiky; I think he was back to being regular old Ben Grimm for most of Simonson, then he ends up rocky again in time for DeFalco's run. Rocky, but with a bucket on his head. 
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Jul 5, 2018 08:42
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Yeah, he was scarred by an evil doppelganger of Wolverine in the Infinity War (?) tie-in.
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Jul 5, 2018 09:20
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I'm just reminded of the Spider-Man issue where he's wearing a castoff Fantastic Four onesie and a paper bag.
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Jul 5, 2018 09:24
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, he was scarred by an evil doppelganger of Wolverine in the Infinity War (?) tie-in. he was scarred by wolverine in the new fantastic four issue that i foundly remember despite being pretty bad. wolverine apologized
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Jul 5, 2018 09:48
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bony tony posted:I'm just reminded of the Spider-Man issue where he's wearing a castoff Fantastic Four onesie and a paper bag. 
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Jul 5, 2018 10:05
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things're getting ugly around here
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Jul 5, 2018 10:12
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ImpAtom posted:I feel like I've said it before but that first page is just Archer. Great, now I can't read it any other way! Thanks  
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Jul 5, 2018 10:19
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Android Blues posted:"Off the rails" is an understatement. Going from Ultimates 2 to Ultimates 3 is literally just a whole different comic, like the two barely even have plot continuity between them, the art is horrendous, and nothing that happens makes sense. Probably one of the starkest sea changes in the quality of a comic I've ever seen. Was Ultimates 3 the one that opened with the Ultimates having a casual get together to watch Tony Stark's leaked sex tape like that was something that was a good and cool idea to do?
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Jul 5, 2018 11:01
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Jerusalem posted:Was Ultimates 3 the one that opened with the Ultimates having a casual get together to watch Tony Stark's leaked sex tape like that was something that was a good and cool idea to do? That's the one. Also Wanda and Pietro are sleeping together, and the Wasp chides Cap for his backwards 40s morality making him not okay with incest. It also features this series of panels:  
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Jul 5, 2018 11:08
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Basically Ultimates 3 takes the "gritty", semi-realistic portrayal of the Avengers from Ultimates 1 and 2, and then it's as if Loeb just can't read subtlety and assumes that any move towards realism = the series is about transgressive sex and ultraviolence. Also he has forgotten how to plot a book. e: also Joe Mad draws women like sex puppets, which is maybe understandable, since that's pretty much how the writing treats them.
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Jul 5, 2018 11:11
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Android Blues posted:Basically Ultimates 3 takes the "gritty", semi-realistic portrayal of the Avengers from Ultimates 1 and 2, and then it's as if Loeb just can't read subtlety and assumes that any move towards realism = the series is about transgressive sex and ultraviolence. Also he has forgotten how to plot a book. And it's like that's the only thing he took from U1 and 2, since he basically just substituted in super-gritted parodies of their 616 selves.
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Jul 5, 2018 11:20
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I think it's actually a toss-up between Ultimates 3 and the start of Kirkman's run on Ultimate X-Men for "most dramatic shift". Because that latter book jumps right off a cliff and drops straight down as well.
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Jul 5, 2018 11:29
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Is Ultimates 3 the one where Thor randomly got 616 Mjolnir because the artist forgot Ultimate Mnolnir was different?
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Jul 5, 2018 11:43
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Hey did they ever explain why no one else has an issue with cosmic rays despite everyone going to space all the time?
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:Hey did they ever explain why no one else has an issue with cosmic rays despite everyone going to space all the time? Galactus was going by at the time.
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Jul 5, 2018 12:44
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Yeah Reed Richards' ship was substandard.
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Jul 5, 2018 12:45
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Synthbuttrange posted:Yeah Reed Richards' ship was substandard. Hello, Victor.
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Jul 5, 2018 12:51
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:Hey did they ever explain why no one else has an issue with cosmic rays despite everyone going to space all the time? One Russian and three apes also got cosmic rayed. Also Bruce Banner and some skrulls.
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Jul 5, 2018 13:56
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And Sasquatch, although that was at least semi on purpose
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think it's actually a toss-up between Ultimates 3 and the start of Kirkman's run on Ultimate X-Men for "most dramatic shift". Because that latter book jumps right off a cliff and drops straight down as well. God drat, don't remind me. For a minute there I completely forgot about The Magician
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Random Stranger posted:One Russian and three apes also got cosmic rayed. And don’t forget the U-Foes, who not only did it intentionally but also overexposed themselves to get better powers than the FF.
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Jul 5, 2018 16:42
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Android Blues posted:That's the one. Also Wanda and Pietro are sleeping together, and the Wasp chides Cap for his backwards 40s morality making him not okay with incest. I've always wondered if the person who wrote that had a sibling, but I've been too scared/lazy to check. And speaking from personal experience, that being your first exposure to Wanda and Pietro makes you actively fight your brain with expectations for a bit until you get the hang of the difference between Ultimate and 616.
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Ignite Memories posted:God drat, don't remind me. For a minute there I completely forgot about The Magician poo poo... That rings a bell. I lost any will to read Ultimate X-men when they introduce Cable as Wolverine from the future... WHAT?
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