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The final boss in ff13 is the best because he doesn't want to live in a final fantasy game.
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Jul 5, 2018 22:43
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lobster22221 posted:The final boss in ff13 is the best because he doesn't want to live in a final fantasy game.
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Jul 5, 2018 22:47
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odin is kickin my rear end e: kicked odin's rear end corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 22:53
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Tae posted:This is why you play PC FF15 Wonderful mods for everyone, and then a Bayonetta with no mouth/eye movement and instead of her amazing outfits it's a cheap-rear end set of Daisy Dukes that clip through her model? 
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Jul 5, 2018 23:17
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corn in the bible posted:odin is kickin my rear end Seriously one of the hardest fights in the game.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:20
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Tae posted:This is why you play PC FF15 FF15 was worth the wait.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:20
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Bruceski posted:Wonderful mods for everyone, and then a Bayonetta with no mouth/eye movement and instead of her amazing outfits it's a cheap-rear end set of Daisy Dukes that clip through her model? Dude, Bayonetta could be wearing literally nothing and she would still be amazing.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:34
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Ph-phrasing?
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Gologle posted:Dude, Bayonetta could be wearing literally nothing and she would still be amazing. Isn't she essentially already wearing nothing since her "clothing" is her hair?
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Jul 5, 2018 23:52
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All clothing is hair, when you think about it.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:06
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Fister Roboto posted:All clothing is hair, when you think about it. Silk? Leather?
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Jul 6, 2018 00:08
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should i be upgrading weapons or what. i dont understand how this system is supposed to work
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Jul 6, 2018 00:15
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Gladio as a samurai just ain't doing it for me. Then again, nothing about Gladio does it for me.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:16
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Hellioning posted:Silk? Leather? Leather is just hair that grows off bone and muscle. And isn't hair. Silk is stringy and hair is stringy. Therefore silk is hair.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:37
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Jul 6, 2018 00:41
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That explains why those floors were so shiny.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:54
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corn in the bible posted:should i be upgrading weapons or what. i dont understand how this system is supposed to work
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Jul 6, 2018 00:55
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corn in the bible posted:should i be upgrading weapons or what. i dont understand how this system is supposed to work You don't really need to. If you ever have trouble with a fight, just upgrade your equipment then. It's nbd
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Jul 6, 2018 02:14
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7 and 9 are on sale on ps4. Do I wanna go through them again???
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Jul 6, 2018 04:08
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Sure. 7's still fun.
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Jul 6, 2018 05:29
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9 is good but you're probably better off with the rose colored glasses for 7
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Jul 6, 2018 05:31
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Having played through 12TZA and seeing the beauty of 4x speed, I figured I could go through 9 with a multiplier.
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Jul 6, 2018 06:55
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the thing to know about ff9's speed multiplier is that it's so fast that you can't really navigate the area maps well, or input battle commands. it's definitely something you'll toggle intermittently, literally seconds between switching on and off, as you play.
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Jul 6, 2018 07:10
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corn in the bible posted:should i be upgrading weapons or what. i dont understand how this system is supposed to work Put goo on a thing to increase EXP modifier. Then put metal on a thing to increase level faster. That's literally it. It's not complicated in the slightest (but it is ungodly expensive at later stages) and IIRC it even tells you this upfront.
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Jul 6, 2018 09:42
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Dragonatrix posted:Put goo on a thing to increase EXP modifier. Then put metal on a thing to increase level faster. actually it says "experiment to find out what bonuses components offer, and have fun!"
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Jul 6, 2018 10:13
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According to the guide it's only Components that improve the exp multiplier (typically organic, have the claw symbol) Components that give good exp (typically mechanical, have the screw) Components that transform max level weapons to the next tier It's not worth upgrading at the minute because the upgrade system works best in bulk. Every component has a hidden score of how much it affects the multiplier organic components are all positive and your multiplier increases when you apply enough of a component that their cumulative score hit a certain threshold. The threshold for 3X is 501 points for example if you use 36 Sturdy Bones at once to level up your weapon it will instantly have the 3X bonus as a single sturdy bone has a score of +14. The problem is that the components that have big exp value aka most of the mechanical ones have negative hidden scores, so every time you use them they lower the multiplier. There's a way around this though. Let's say your hidden score is 501 AKA 3X and you upgrade with a material that has a hidden score of -100, now your multiplier is decreased and only one upgrade material had the 3X applied to it. If instead you upgraded with 10 of those same components at once all 10 would get the 3X bonus and your hidden score only returns to 0. So the best way to upgrade anything is to just buy 36 sturdy bones from Creature Comforts, apply them all, then buy a component from Lenora's garage in bulk that has a good exp payoff to gil cost and apply them all in bulk. It's better even to sell most of your components to do this I think as even rare components with amazing exp aren't as useful as applying other components in massive bulk to get the 3X allat once. There are also components like credit chips which just exist to be sold, anything that has a description like "sold for a premium" e: However the componets with great exp to gil price still haven't appeared in the shops for me and I'm on chapter 11 so I did spend some time on chapter 9 or 10 upgrading my main crew's weapons even though it wasn't optimal use of components EmmyOk fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Jul 6, 2018 10:56
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Organic components (wood/bone/etc) give bad EXP but increase the multiplier. Metallic components (engine/screw/bolt/etc) give good EXP but decrease the multiplier. Put organic poo poo on your equipment until the multiplier is at the 3X maximum, then stick a bighuge pile of metallic components on there at once to get the benefits of the 3X multiplier. When it's maxed out, put the special "increase to next evolutionary step"-item on it. Rinse and repeat.
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Jul 6, 2018 11:56
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Leveling up accessories before chapter 11 is useful. Especially HP ones. Leveling up weapons has very little effect before that.
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Jul 6, 2018 13:12
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Playing through XII on pc, and really starting to wish there was a difficulty mod or something to decrease xp. Classic Final Fantasy where playing through anything extra beyond the story makes the party massively overpowered. Also lots of cool systems that break the game, but why bother, because they can be a grind and trivialize the rest of the content.
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Jul 6, 2018 13:15
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If you upgrade your weapons, you get weapons with cooler names
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Fruits of the sea posted:Playing through XII on pc, and really starting to wish there was a difficulty mod or something to decrease xp. Classic Final Fantasy where playing through anything extra beyond the story makes the party massively overpowered. Also lots of cool systems that break the game, but why bother, because they can be a grind and trivialize the rest of the content. Found this difficulty mod on Nexus: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy12/mods/59 I have not tried this myself however so I don't know how hard and/or tedious the game will be with it. mirarant fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Jul 6, 2018 13:37
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Fruits of the sea posted:Playing through XII on pc, and really starting to wish there was a difficulty mod or something to decrease xp. Classic Final Fantasy where playing through anything extra beyond the story makes the party massively overpowered. Also lots of cool systems that break the game, but why bother, because they can be a grind and trivialize the rest of the content. there's an accessory that reduces xp to zero when you have it equipped. Alternately, just mod the game to unlock new game- and play the whole thing at level 1 
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Jul 6, 2018 13:52
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corn in the bible posted:actually it says "experiment to find out what bonuses components offer, and have fun!" They tell you specifically that some raise the EXP bonus and some lower it. Then you take 5 seconds to figure out that the ones that raise it are the bits from monsters with the fang markers, and the ones that lower it are the bits from machines with the screw markers. It's not that bad really. EmmyOk posted:e: However the componets with great exp to gil price still haven't appeared in the shops for me and I'm on chapter 11 so I did spend some time on chapter 9 or 10 upgrading my main crew's weapons even though it wasn't optimal use of components If you were using superconductors then you're mostly fine. And you can get the shop with the Ultracompact Reactors pretty early on in Chapter 11 by doing missions so you're mostly set in getting the shops for components. There are a couple of other shops that open up much later but they don't have components so it's not relevant here. EmmyOk posted:So the best way to upgrade anything is to just buy 36 sturdy bones from Creature Comforts, apply them all, then buy a component from Lenora's garage in bulk that has a good exp payoff to gil cost and apply them all in bulk. So in general, this approach is fine. But to get technical about optimal stuff, there are some times where you don't need to use all the sturdy bones at once, or you don't need all 36 sturdy bones, or where sturdy bones/superconductors might not actually be the most cost efficient ones if you have other components around. It all depends on the specifics for each equipment. And sadly, I don't think there's any current useful user-friendly way to share it. Probably the easiest thing is Etro's Gate weapons/accessories lists here which keeps it simple to sturdy bones/superconductors/reactors, but you need some internet archive to even be able to access it like I just did here. It still works but navigating the site is just slow now. Ventana fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Jul 6, 2018 14:42
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Ventana posted:They tell you specifically that some raise the EXP bonus and some lower it. Then you take 5 seconds to figure out that the ones that raise it are the bits from monsters with the fang markers, and the ones that lower it are the bits from machines with the screw markers. It's not that bad really. Yeah I used some that had pretty good exp and I had lots of and found some inthe shop that had a cheap price and decent exp but there's on a bit later that's double the exp for the same price so I figured I'd hold off until then for more. The guide had like the top five items price:exp ration listed with some cheap ones and some expensive ones. It just seems a waste to use the great items I have when there's only a few and they'll boof the multiplier if I apply them so I'm better selling them to buy something else in bulk imo
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Jul 6, 2018 14:50
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IcePhoenix posted:9 is good but you're probably better off with the rose colored glasses for 7 I played 7 for the first time recently and I had fun with it, so I respectfully disagree with this post I don't think it was amazing or anything but it was a good jrpg, even if I'm still not like 100% sure what was going on with sephiroth and jenova
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Jul 6, 2018 15:18
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Jenova was the protomolecule all along.
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Jul 6, 2018 15:19
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7 aged ok I think. Not graphically, generally, but the game is good Silk is worm hair
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Jul 6, 2018 15:27
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iirc Sturdy Bones and Superconductors are the best value-for-money upgrade ingredients until you get really late into the game and unlock a secret shop after lots of sidequesting.
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The White Dragon posted:FF15's story gets railroaded extremely hard starting in chapter 9, and some players were extra bitter because you literally get on a train for a few chapters. I didn't think it was bad at all, though*. If you're playing on PS4, you'll miss out on a lot of the new content if you don't buy DLCs. That doesn't sound completely terrible. Is it a full on departure from combat too?
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