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GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
AOC rules hi haters

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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

i can’t believe that damned quote actually produced something alright

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

AOC rules hi haters

she does, but also it's funny when she tweets out lib poo poo

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)


this is my head canon

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

AOC rules hi haters

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

AOC rules hi haters

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

hello idiots, unless you abolish nation-states totally, which isn't going to happen anytime soon especially with the advent of the climate crisis, you absolutely have to have a proper immigration structure in place or else you have millions of unaccounted for people in the states who will (and already are!) be exploited by the system

a proper immigration system means we can keep track of these people and ensure that they receive the protections and rights they're entitled to, which is why both bernie and aoc have called for a new agency and a redesigned immigration system alongside abolishing the gently caress out of ICE, a gestapo organization

if we have to keep track of people for them to have protections and rights, we're probably doing protections and rights wrong

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

The last 2 pages were like a flashback to the bad parts of LF that people have forgotten.

The Good: Read Settlers/the bread book
The Bad: Ironic MTW Larping
The Ugly:Unironic MTW Larping

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Main Paineframe posted:

if we have to keep track of people for them to have protections and rights, we're probably doing protections and rights wrong

explain to me then how a government can stop, for example, sex slaves from being exploited if it never knew they were actually in the country in the first place to see them disappear

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nobody said anything about documentation or monitoring. The problem is AOC centered her message on crime.

She wants a "secure border" and to continue criminalizing movement.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

AOC is good.

But:

https://www.ilhanomar.com/vision posted:

Abolish Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and increase refugee resettlement and asylum

Pass a clean DREAM Act and provide a path to citizenship for all DACA and TPS recipients

Ban private prisons and surveillance programs like Countering Violent Extremism (CVE) and invest in existing alternatives to incarceration, as well as piloting new alternatives to incarceration

Prioritize evidence-based harm reduction policies to ensure trauma-informed, cultural and gender competent, comprehensive treatment and support

Support the legalization of marijuana and the decriminalization of all drugs including the expungement of current records—focus on treatment and rehabilitation, not punishment

Omar comin'

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

SKULL.GIF posted:

hello idiots,

ok first off just quote me if u wanna @ me

2nd, we're dropping AOC like a hot potato whether u like it or noit

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

ilhan omar is the new hotness

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

i regret to inform u that milkshake duck likes borders and small business owners

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Friendship ended with AOC, now Omar is my best friend

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

docbeard posted:

AOC is good.

But:


Omar comin'

Wow, he isn't even for #abolitionnationstates gently caress this guy.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Frijolero posted:

Friendship ended with AOC, now Omar is my best friend

Their position doesn't appear to be noticeably different than AOC's though.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Calibanibal posted:

ilhan omar is the new hotness

I have room in my life for many varieties of hotness.

(But yeah.)

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Wow, he isn't even for #abolitionnationstates gently caress this guy.

(She)

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Semi-serious:

I think poring over every letter of every word of everything a politician says and hand-crafting the perfect meaning out of it to support whatever argument you already wanted to make is super super dumb and bad, and that's the case whether you're doing it because you like a particular politician or because you're looking for a reason to dismiss them.

I wish Ocasio-Cortez were more forthright about (a) wanting to come to the U.S. because the place you're from is actively trying to murder you not being a crime, and (b) ICE needing to go but also needing not to be replaced by New And Improved Diet ICE. (And I wish Bernie were more forthright about those things too.) I think they're both still more or less on the side of the angels, certainly very much at the good end of things. Criticism is great, dismissal is not to be undertaken lightly.

Also I am trying to hold myself to "cautiously optimistic" about Ilhan Omar but I really, really hope she's anything like as good as the game she talks.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Shear Modulus posted:

why is AOC on twitter all day anyway

she's a millennial with a liberal arts degree

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Shear Modulus posted:

my unpopular suck zone opinion is that data centers should be dispersed to ensure lower latency and a network that is robust to individual outages

you loving monster

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Frijolero posted:

Nobody said anything about documentation or monitoring. The problem is AOC centered her message on crime.

She wants a "secure border" and to continue criminalizing movement.
You can't abolish borders today, or with a single candidate. But you can work on abolishing ICE.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Y'all talking about the breadbook like y'all living in 1918 -- I'm over here reading about post-scarcity communalism as laid out by Murray Bookchin.

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
Guys, let's focus on things like universal healthcare and democratizing the workplace, and then we can work on abolishing the nation-state.

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Mister Fister posted:

We should casually reply to these twitter posts about how anyone who doesn't support Ocasio is a racist AND a sexist just to break their brains. Use their own bad faith arguments against them.

This is Lenin's strategy, yes. Also we should make fun of them at their meetings.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

loquacius posted:

"How about a single solitary conservative or Republican, Matt"
Matt:

e: "Here's a list of people, mostly progressive women, that I really hate. Oh, also I hate bros. loving bros! :argh:"

He forgot Emily Ratajkowski

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
i'm gonna give AOC $15 a month as kind of my lib smearing service i wish she had a patreon

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

Y'all talking about the breadbook like y'all living in 1918 -- I'm over here reading about post-scarcity communalism as laid out by Murray Bookchin.

The forces of council communism and communalism....together unstoppable

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015



lmao

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

rudatron posted:

You can't abolish borders today, or with a single candidate. But you can work on abolishing ICE.

I literally never said abolish borders.

You can talk about immigration without using right-wing talking points and without talking open borders.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Abolish borders, abolish reactionaries and abolish the cowards too scared to say abolish borders

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wow, now I a brocialist, have another reason to hate her.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


abolish the succ zone

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Jazerus posted:

abolish the succ zone

Get rid of borders, merge all threads together make everyone a mod.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Get rid of borders, merge all threads together make everyone a mod.

Is Matey free in this scenario?

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Abolish the Democrats, we're being run by Republicans anyway

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

maybe running candidates in democratic party primaries isn't the best use of "the left's" incredibly limited resources.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Thoguh posted:

Is Matey free in this scenario?

Matey's account will be free for all citizens to view.

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

comedyblissoption posted:

just a reminder that the susan sarandon hate isn't just twitter-verse stuff

msnbc puts out nationally syndicated programs that tells the audience to hate susan sarandon

The Sarandon stuff is extremely weird. Like, people hating Bernie Sanders is weird, but at least he's a prominent politician. Sarandon is just a celebrity who apparently supported Stein in the election. I can kinda understand someone disagreeing with that, but the vitriol aimed at her is insane.

ikanreed posted:

Anarchists are a lot like libertarians in that they think if you just get rid of all social structure, good ones magically appear

I'm not even an anarchist, and this is a huge misrepresentation of what anarchists believe.

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 03:03 on Jul 6, 2018

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