|
Johnny Joestar posted:from what i remember i don't think seasons even has a 'proper' water dungeon Seasons had a semi-water dungeon, or at least there was a lot of water in it.
|
#
?
Jul 6, 2018 03:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 06:05 |
|
|
Cythereal posted:I liked the Ancient Cistern in Skyward Sword, if you want to consider that a water dungeon. Majora's Mask had the best water movement...and then they went and made THAT mess for the ocean dungeon.
|
|
#
?
Jul 6, 2018 06:48
|
|
|
The best water dungeon in Zelda history is Snowpeak Manor and that's obviously a looser definition of "water" than a lot of people will go with.
|
|
#
?
Jul 6, 2018 12:22
|
|
|
I actually liked the water dungeon in Twilight Princess. Something about it really clicked for me, and I managed to really get the layout of the dungeon and how the various water paths worked together.
|
|
#
?
Jul 6, 2018 14:42
|
|
|
 Today's dungeon music is the sound of dragging yourself up a road blackout drunk. Next Wednesday is the last part of Ages, and then Seasons will begin next Sunday.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2018 17:36
|
|
|
...did you forget you had the Cane of Somaria again? You can use that instead of wasting seeds to find the invisible platforms, I'm pretty sure that's what you're intended to do. Interestingly, if you look at where you are on the map, the last dungeon is very close to the first one. If you try to use the Song of Ages and get into it from the present, the game just arbitrarily says "no, time travel doesn't work here" or something like that and sends you back. No sequence breaking, you have to go through the Sea of Storms. I'd like this dungeon so much better if not for the music, completely agreed. It's especially frustrating to me because the music in the labyrinth outside is great.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2018 18:41
|
|
|
Note that to reach the boss you use sword, bomb, seed, and glove to reach the door. Which is the same order to use things to fight the boss itself.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2018 19:10
|
|
|
At the end of the dungeon you were talking about long dead stars. Actually, that's just a myth. The chance that a visible star is already dead is incredibly small. Stars live for tens of billions of years, if you discount clouds, i.e. barely visible galaxies, since you wouldn't be able to discern any stars in them, the farthest visible star is "only" about 7000 light years away, while most are only a couple of hundreds. The probability that the stars life ended in exactly that time span is diminishing. And there are only roughly 6000 stars which are visible with the naked eyes. (3000 on each side of the globe.) Sorry for the unsolicited astronomy lecture, but it's kinda fun how everyone overestimates the distance of space in that one example. But yeah, falling stars would kinda suck for orientation. Though, you could use a comet, if one happens to be visible at that time.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2018 20:31
|
|
|
when talking about wishing ages had more color i was just thinking 'seasons absolutely has more going on' and then you two went into talking about it anyways. the season gimmick lends itself well to some neat palette shifts, which is part of why a lot of it sticks out to me compared to the areas in ages which i had a hard time remembering until this lp came along. although, i think i've already established that i'm biased towards seasons anyways so that's not surprising.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2018 22:49
|
|
|
Johnny Joestar posted:when talking about wishing ages had more color i was just thinking 'seasons absolutely has more going on' and then you two went into talking about it anyways. the season gimmick lends itself well to some neat palette shifts, which is part of why a lot of it sticks out to me compared to the areas in ages which i had a hard time remembering until this lp came along. While Ages only has two (past and present) and naturally they went with the sepia tone for the past. Should have gone meta and made it more OG Gameboy like the Classic Ring. So you'd appreciate the present's colors more 
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2018 22:55
|
|
|
Today, in things Meccaprime got wrong: - Barrier islands commonly 'migrate' because they erode on one side and sand is deposited on another. They can migrate up to several meters per year. It has nothing to do with tectonic activity, and in case of Oracle of Ages, it's actually surprising how LITTLE they moved in 400 years. - BIFF grows whenever you finish a certain number of dungeons, over both games if you play a Linked game. It has nothing to do with gasha nuts.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2018 19:51
|
|
|
 I do so enjoy turtlemothspider soup at the top of the world. Seasons begins on Sunday!
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2018 18:50
|
|
|
I thought it was jellyfish-thing, not a turtle?
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2018 20:39
|
|
|
before anyone goes correcting me - the owl statue hint tells you which staircase to take, the solution is follow the flame that's directly behind you when you enter the room and it shows you which staircase to use
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2018 21:06
|
|
|
i will admit that part of it is nostalgia making me remember the games well but the two of them if nothing else are fairly solid entries to the series. a bit limited compared to others and it's hard to match up to the 3d entries, really. good distillations of the zelda formula, though, and the linking gimmick was pretty cool if a bit...weird and requiring both games. now it's time for the best one of the two 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:08
|
|
|
Despite being pretty solid at best. They are very unique entrys into the series, and I'm glad these two games exist. Seasons is better though  .
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:57
|
|
|
You might say they were both good games, but it just wasn't Oracle of Ages' time.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 06:07
|
|
|
I think what I liked most about the Oracle games is that you had linking games in the vein of pokemon and such, except in this case you had two different adventures rather than 'minor differences in where you find things'. In general I really hate the color-linking thing, but here it was alright.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 17:38
|
|
|
My only real complaints about the Oracle games are pretty standard ones for Zelda: all the female characters are useless and every seemingly original and interesting plot quickly turns back into Ganondorf. As one of the three Zelda games I've actually played, I put Oracle of Ages as the middle one in terms of quality. Fun, but uneven, and little kid me was not mentally equipped to figure out a lot of these puzzles on my own.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 17:48
|
|
|
Zanzibar Ham posted:I think what I liked most about the Oracle games is that you had linking games in the vein of pokemon and such, except in this case you had two different adventures rather than 'minor differences in where you find things'. In general I really hate the color-linking thing, but here it was alright. I agree with this. The other nice thing is that the intent was pretty clearly "play both games" rather than "swap with friends", and the password system (tedious as it can get at times) means you don't need to buy link cables or extra hardware to experience all the content. I can't think of other "multiple version" games that give that courtesy off the top of my head.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 17:52
|
|
|
Cythereal posted:My only real complaints about the Oracle games are pretty standard ones for Zelda: all the female characters are useless To be fair, that's also true for the male characters in this game. Or do you think Ralph was actually helping?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 18:07
|
|
|
Hell, Nayru did more good than Ralph did. And she was possessed for the first half of the game.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 18:19
|
|
|
Senerio posted:Hell, Nayru did more good than Ralph did. And she was possessed for the first half of the game. It's okay, you can call her what she is: a damsel in distress who needs rescuing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 18:23
|
|
|
Cythereal posted:It's okay, you can call her what she is: a damsel in distress who needs rescuing. I rather just call her an NPC in a Zelda game.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 19:31
|
|
|
Looking forward to the next game! 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 19:36
|
|
|
Cythereal posted:My only real complaints about the Oracle games are pretty standard ones for Zelda: all the female characters are useless and every seemingly original and interesting plot quickly turns back into Ganondorf.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 21:48
|
|
|
I'm a bit late now but I had no idea that first gen ring existed. Did either of you ever try playing any of the minigames with that or any of the other sprite swap rings equipped? The dancing especially, since it doesn't require use of items.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 02:52
|
|
|
General Maximus posted:I'm a bit late now but I had no idea that first gen ring existed. Did either of you ever try playing any of the minigames with that or any of the other sprite swap rings equipped? The dancing especially, since it doesn't require use of items. You can't interact with NPCs with the sprite changing rings, sadly. (Might be wrong)
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 05:24
|
|
|
No you can't talk to the NPCs as a Sprite swap sadly. I wanted to do tons of stuff with a few of the Sprite swap rings but alas.
Senerio fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 13, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 19:16
|
|
|
Was looking stuff up, apparently that form of Veran's is a Beetle, not a turtle. All her Metamorphosis' are insects. (Spider for some reason only has 4 legs though).
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 20:02
|
|
|
Spiders aren't insects. Maybe she transformed into a bat?
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 20:03
|
|
|
Maybe it's a general 'bug' theme, not all bugs are insects after all.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 20:08
|
|
|
I wish Veran was explained more. Shes very interesting.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 22:40
|
|
|
unfortunately veran and general onox (the seasons antagonist) don't get much characterization mainly because they basically exist to be stand-ins for the normal playthroughs as opposed to the really obvious main villain for a linked game. which i guess is a flaw of the linked game gimmick, that being that ultimately a game that isn't linked isn't really 'complete' exactly and certain aspects might suffer due to it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 22:57
|
|
|
Silegna posted:You can't interact with NPCs with the sprite changing rings, sadly. (Might be wrong) Well that's incredibly disappointing. I wanted to see oldschool Link dancing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2018 02:38
|
|
|
 10 hours, 5 minutes. Wanted to catch up with the LP, did this all in one day. Silegna fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jul 15, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2018 03:47
|
|
|
  McFly thought he was free. And then the Triforce spat him out into another far-off land. It's time for the linked version of Oracle of Seasons!
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2018 18:34
|
|
|
Seasons I feel has more impact nowadays because Ages deals with pure scifi/hard fantasy in time travel but we are actually living "Winter going straight into summer" and other things - our seasons are out of whack due to environmental factors, so we are directly seeing the theoretical damage Onox would be doing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2018 19:02
|
|
|
Since you marathoned so hard its moot, but if you want to rename your mc there is a password generator program on the web that you could recreate your clear data with.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2018 19:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 06:05 |
|
|
ThornBrain posted:
...Can't you just transfer the rings from Ages to Seasons right away by just talking to one of the snakes in the jars in the ring shop?
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2018 19:55
|
|