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Vasudus
May 30, 2003


Baby Boomers took full advantage of organized labor, livable wages, and a strong (for America) social safety net and spent their prime years dissolving it for all future generations.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
One more reason the estate tax should be really, really high. Like 100% or so.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


We should have had death panels

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

That Works posted:

We should have had death panels

The one silver lining is: We already do, thanks for-profit insurance and crashing Medicare/Medicaid

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

That Works posted:

I like to remind people that when the generation complaining about 'Millenials" were their age they helped spike the crime/murder and drug rates in the USA to record numbers all while polluting like crazy. Saints, the last generation were not.

Obviously you don't realize we're trying to get back there again. That's the Great they're trying to Make America Again.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I have these discussions all the time with my boomer coworkers. They're completely incapable of understanding that wages have not gone up to support cost of living. I had an incredibly cheap for the area townhouse when I lived in CT and my rent was 60% of my income at its best, and 110% at its worst. My rent here started at 50% of my income and has since dropped down to 25% because I make a fuckload of money now, but now I'm chipping away at the 70k in debt I have.

They literally think that you can get a part time job over the summer and pay for school, and get any job to afford a house, get married, and have a family by the time you're 30.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Same except officers my age or younger who don’t seem to realize we get generous tax-free BAH and subsidized tons-o-stuff. Extra good when the response is everyone should be in the military.

BRB recruiting 40+ million young people so I don’t have to pay for higher wages or social safety nets.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

That Works posted:

We should have had death panels

They don't even want solar panels

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Nuclear War posted:

They don't even want solar panels

Unless in a NIMBY to affordable housing area where you can keep your progressive bona fides by slapping solar on your roof while voting to ensure high density housing and public transit stays out.

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


Nuclear War posted:

They don't even want solar panels

Or nuclear. The two things we should be subsidizing the poo poo out of but even progressives have to be dragged to kicking and screaming. gently caress it lets build a solar dyson array and use the excess to make a GDI ion cannon.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Steezo posted:

Or nuclear. The two things we should be subsidizing the poo poo out of but even progressives have to be dragged to kicking and screaming. gently caress it lets build a solar dyson array and use the excess to make a GDI ion cannon.

Bu..but we need to prop up industries that have been dying since the 1950s :qq:

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler
Japanese cult leader Shoko Asahara executed

quote:

Tokyo (CNN)Seven members of the Aum Shinrikyo cult, which carried out the deadly 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway, have been executed, Japanese officials said Friday.

quote:

Executions in Japan are done in secret, with no advance warning given to the prisoner, their family or legal representatives, according to Amnesty International. Prisoners often only learn hours before that they are to be killed.
:black101:

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1015248575624859651

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Solaris 2.0 posted:

I was literally sitting in a recruiters office 6 years ago, papers in front of me, before I said I needed to go home and think about it. I read the GIP thread about enlisting and it convinced me not to. That enlisting at the age of 27 with a bachelors was stupid. So I ignored all the recruiters call and switched to studying for IT exams instead. Seems like it was a good choice, thanks GIP!

GiP success story right here.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

mlmp08 posted:

Same except officers my age or younger who don’t seem to realize we get generous tax-free BAH and subsidized tons-o-stuff. Extra good when the response is everyone should be in the military.

BRB recruiting 40+ million young people so I don’t have to pay for higher wages or social safety nets.

I think it was someone here in GIP that made a compelling argument that the us military is a socialist utopia.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

That this point, color my surprise if they pull a full UAE/Qatar and take the passports/green cards of the cooks and hold them hostage.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

Viva Miriya posted:

GiP success story right here.

Honestly couldn’t be more thankful for the advice GIP gave me. I took night courses to study IT, got a few certs , now I work as a contractor making ok but not great money but my benefits are good, it’s in the DoD so funding will never be an issue, and I’m happily married.

I often wonder what my life would have been like if I signed that contract (6 years!) and gone into the Navy enlisted.

Also this thread is far more sane than the D&D one.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

Solaris 2.0 posted:


Also this thread is far more sane than the D&D one.

Amen

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

As Nero Danced posted:

I think it was someone here in GIP that made a compelling argument that the us military is a socialist utopia.

I mean it's basically a jobs program for rural whites that also provides housing, healthcare, food and education. Unfortunately it does so with a ton of expensive baggage attached.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I enlisted with a degree since it was the post draw down option available while needing a waiver because I believed in this nation and look how that turned out.

Believe only in the futility of this existence and grim necessity of cleansing through extermination, Namaste

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Seriously, people learning from our mistakes of enlisting, feels good. It was a net positive for me, but it is not for most people.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
I’m not ready to say the military was worth it. At this moment I’d say it was a wash. Give me a few years to get established in my career and I may say it was worth it.

I’ll never recommend it to anyone though.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Stultus Maximus posted:

quote:

The respondent argues on appeal that the Immigration Judge erred by finding that she is subject to the material support bar, claiming that any assistance she provided to the guerrillas in El Salvador was de minimis and therefore not “material.” She further asserts that even if the material support bar is applicable to her, she is entitled to a duress exception. However, in Matter of M-H-Z-, 26 I&N Dec. 757 (BIA 2016), we ruled that the “material support bar” in section 212(a)(3)(B)(iv)(VI) of the Act does not include an implied exception for an alien whose material support to a terrorist organization was provided under duress. The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in whose jurisdiction this case arises, has deferred to our interpretation. See Hernandez v. Sessions, 884 F.3d 107, 109 (2d Cir. 2018). Consequently, we will not address that issue further.
:catstare:

Chevron deference was a dumb and bad idea even during administrations that weren't evil.

WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

There's not a :catstare: big enough

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

CommieGIR posted:

Rember that fucker that struck and killed a black motorist picking up road debris, and then messages his friend saying he struck and killed a black guy so casually?

State Cops cleared him of any fault, despite fleeing a scene of an incident

https://www.theroot.com/white-driver-who-fatally-struck-black-man-called-him-r-1827387699

I knew this would happen, and yet I'm still surprised.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Hey guys if someone puts a gun to your head and tells you to kill someone and you kill someone guess what you are a murderer and should go to jail. This is no different.

-Dead Reckoning, probably.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

If I add all the benefits I've received normalized over the six years I was in (OHA, health, voc rehab, the eye surgery they did on me, bunch of other poo poo) plus my pay for that period I got paid well into the six figures. Def worth it.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



CommieGIR posted:

Rember that fucker that struck and killed a black motorist picking up road debris, and then messages his friend saying he struck and killed a black guy so casually?

State Cops cleared him of any fault, despite fleeing a scene of an incident

https://www.theroot.com/white-driver-who-fatally-struck-black-man-called-him-r-1827387699

Idk why they didn't get him on leaving the scene of an incident, I could see if he thought it was a deer and leaving the scene being NBD, but his own text messages noted that he knew it was a person he had struck. He's absolutely hosed on the civil case front, but you loving know he only has that truck and a single wide trailer/meth lab though.

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008
I don’t understand how fleeing the scene of an accident then snap chatting about killing “some n*gger” isn’t a crime. I know racism is the reason but holy poo poo. How is that cop/prosecutor not getting some kind of federal hammer coming down?

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Guys, Trump is President and this is all ok now

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017

Richard Bong posted:

I don’t understand how fleeing the scene of an accident then snap chatting about killing “some n*gger” isn’t a crime. I know racism is the reason but holy poo poo. How is that cop/prosecutor not getting some kind of federal hammer coming down?

Like from who, Jeff Sessions?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Richard Bong posted:

How is that cop/prosecutor not getting some kind of federal hammer coming down?

Because Jeff Sessions has been gutting guidelines? Or because the Attorney General is Jeff Sessions. One or the other.

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

Richard Bong posted:

I don’t understand how fleeing the scene of an accident then snap chatting about killing “some n*gger” isn’t a crime. I know racism is the reason but holy poo poo. How is that cop/prosecutor not getting some kind of federal hammer coming down?

"You see, he didn't flee an accident because there was no accident. He just hit a speed bump" - The South

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

boop the snoot posted:

Hey guys if someone puts a gun to your head and tells you to kill someone and you kill someone guess what you are a murderer and should go to jail. This is no different.

-Dead Reckoning, probably.

The important detail is if this "someone" is white. If not, then I'm sure there's some rando law from 1843 that says it's OK and it was a good shoothit-and-run.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Richard Bong posted:

I don’t understand how fleeing the scene of an accident then snap chatting about killing “some n*gger” isn’t a crime. I know racism is the reason but holy poo poo. How is that cop/prosecutor not getting some kind of federal hammer coming down?

Because as far as I know, legally it’s not ever illegal to not charge someone with a crime. Because it is inherently assumed that the law would never not prosecute a black person with manslaughter.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.
In more actual fake news, there's a Russian bot campaign pushing the #WalkAway hashtag like its a real thing and people seem to think "hundreds of thousands" of people are leaving the democratic party because of their "hatred and violence" and joining trump supporting Republicans

So that's uh cool

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
It’s really lazy, too. Just posting word for word identical tweets of why people are leaving from fresh accounts and such.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

mlmp08 posted:

It’s really lazy, too. Just posting word for word identical tweets of why people are leaving from fresh accounts and such.

Why put in effort if you don’t have to?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

In more actual fake news, there's a Russian bot campaign pushing the #WalkAway hashtag like its a real thing and people seem to think "hundreds of thousands" of people are leaving the democratic party because of their "hatred and violence" and joining trump supporting Republicans

So that's uh cool

Oh to be a fly on the wall in the brainstorming meetings that come up with these ideas.

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008
I mean maybe I’m just not sufficiently jaded, but I’m just having trouble understanding how he just walks after this. It’s a loving high profile slam dunk for a prosecutor.

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Vasudus posted:

I have these discussions all the time with my boomer coworkers. They're completely incapable of understanding that wages have not gone up to support cost of living. I had an incredibly cheap for the area townhouse when I lived in CT and my rent was 60% of my income at its best, and 110% at its worst. My rent here started at 50% of my income and has since dropped down to 25% because I make a fuckload of money now, but now I'm chipping away at the 70k in debt I have.

They literally think that you can get a part time job over the summer and pay for school, and get any job to afford a house, get married, and have a family by the time you're 30.

One of my favorites is my best friend in Boston. He's just hitting his early 30s, married 4 years ago. He and his wife bought a very small house in a rapidly gentrifying part of Boston and could do so only with the help of their parents on the downpayment. He's a plumber and his wife is some kind of secretary. They have almost no savings and no disposable income and are trying to find ways to get out of the city as soon as they both can. Also my friend had an emergency kidney condition and despite insurance still owes $20-30k in expenses after a prolonged hospital stay.

Their parents give them poo poo constantly for not having kids / just had a huge blowup with them because they decided they won't be having kids (entirely due to finances). Meanwhile his dad is retiring from his lifetime job as a butcher, his mom is a homemaker and they're living off social security and the fact that they sold the house they bought for $100k in 1992 for ~800k last year.


edit:

On the upsides of the southern racist bullshit:

https://twitter.com/exavierpope/status/1015242202149281792

That Works fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 6, 2018

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