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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's pretty much the only way most anime makes any sense, yeah. Other anime aside, in Gundam '79 they're quite pointedly adolescents conscripted under duress.
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Judging by the thread response were loookinh at a 100 million dollar opening for 'dams
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e: double post
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Jul 7, 2018 06:28
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it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant
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Jul 7, 2018 06:30
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Harime Nui posted:it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant hey now that's not fair
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Jul 7, 2018 06:35
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we all love miyazaki the gits man and uh cowboy bebop
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Jul 7, 2018 06:37
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Harime Nui posted:it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant Harsh, but fair.
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Jul 7, 2018 06:50
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Harime Nui posted:it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant It'll happen to you before you know it. 
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Jul 7, 2018 06:57
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Harime Nui posted:it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant A) so is this thread for talking about dumb movies B) turn on you're monitor
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Jul 7, 2018 07:00
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I mean, Transformers movies made billions of dollars with giant robots shooting each other and they were awful, and with Gundam you can have young sexy men staring dramatically at each other sometimes wearing masks and huge things exploding in space, I know Hollywood will try their very hardest to gently caress that up, but they'd still have to try.
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Gundam is pretty much just ww2 with jet packs and mecha, and there's plenty of good ww2 films. I think if they focus on a single operation during a war and don't try to cover an entire war in a single movie it could be okay, and the first act of the Gundam tv series is just a single op (escorting the Gundam from space to the earth government hq so they can mass produce it). The first captain America movie comes to mind as a bad example of a fantastical war movie imo, where they try to use a montage to cover everything the character did during ww2 and it really messes up the pacing.
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Jul 7, 2018 08:30
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Perhaps what gundam needs are b52 bombers In space
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Jul 7, 2018 08:46
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Harime Nui posted:it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant That's not fair They're also gay
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TetsuoTW posted:That's not fair Gundam is also extremely gay, coincidence?!
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Jul 7, 2018 09:16
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I mean, they're soldiers. It's one anime where half the cast being prettyboys at most barely into their twenties actually works. The original series also takes place during the deadliest war in human history (with BILLIONS dead by the time the series begin) and it'S a plot point that super young people are now being conscripted because the older soldiers are dead. Like WW1's Lost Generation but on a bigger scale.
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Jul 7, 2018 11:33
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I had a lot of fun ghosting the Gundam thread when Gundam Age was on. Try cramming three generations of a war drama into 50 episodes, give it the most inappropriate kiddy art-style, and ramp up Gundam's already latent sexism to 11. I think someone gets Space AIDS in that show.
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Jul 7, 2018 12:17
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Harime Nui posted:one of the funny things is that most of the supporting cast in sequel series Zeta are a more realistic age for their jobs----so Jerid Messa and Emma Sheen, being newly-minted flight academy grads, are 25, putting them at about the same age as most of the veterans from the first series. Jet Black in Bebop is portrayed as this old rear end grumpy old man who's like, just old as gently caress. He's 36.
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Jul 7, 2018 12:23
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Mecha operating child soldiers seems to be a thing in Japanese media
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Jul 7, 2018 14:06
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Also this reminds me of Game of Thrones because in the books Robb Stark and Jon Snow are both 14 years old and their wise old father Ned Stark is like 35.
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Jul 7, 2018 14:11
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FreudianSlippers posted:Mecha operating child soldiers seems to be a thing in Japanese media It's okay, they are 3.500 year-old demons who only look like child soldiers.
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Jul 7, 2018 14:40
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FreudianSlippers posted:Mecha operating child soldiers seems to be a thing in Japanese media Also it's wish fulfillment and, at best, the readers are Captain Bright and instead of a middle manager want to be the Great Hero.
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Jul 7, 2018 15:51
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FreudianSlippers posted:Mecha operating child soldiers seems to be a thing in Japanese media There's generally a specific range of ages allowed to be competent in... a lot of fiction, for that matter, and that usually happens to coincide with the target audience. Especially in manga and anime, which even has names for specific target demographics by age and gender. One Piece comes to mind as something of an exception where while most of the protagonists around around 16-19, they add a couple of 30somethings and one that's technically 90 (but undead) and are noted as being unusually young as pirate crews go.
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Jul 7, 2018 16:05
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Look I'm just going to give it to you straight, the moment there is a trailer for this new gundam movie and an MS-06 Zaku II's eyeball lights up and looks at the screen with a tapwwinnnnnnng sound I'm going to loving mark out. You can't stop me. God help you all if a beam saber gets shoved into the chest armor of an opposing mobile suit.
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Jul 7, 2018 16:54
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Harime Nui posted:it's no coincidence that a) the old gundam series are very popular on these forums; b) these forums are obsoleted and irrelevant I mean, like, you're not wrong but Gundam is also probably the easiest sell to mainstream audiences out of any anime. You could literally just adapt the 0079 movies directly and, as long as the casting and direction are good, it'll probably get a lot of asses in seats just because "badass-looking sci-fi war movie" is a thing people generally like. I mean, gently caress, all the old lady housekeepers where I work are hype as gently caress for Alita: Battle Angel and had no clue it was based on a comic. "Can this appeal to normies" is honestly a more important question than "does this have a built-in fanbase," and if loving Alita passes that test, Gundam certainly does.
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KiteAuraan posted:Jet Black in Bebop is portrayed as this old rear end grumpy old man who's like, just old as gently caress. Hey, that's like 74 in anime years.
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Jul 7, 2018 17:24
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If you've never read the story of last time there was a Gundam movie in the works (in the 80s), here you go: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2018-02-09/when-gundam-came-to-hollywood/.127606
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I mean the Black Prince was 16 when he lead the English to victory at Crecy. So if these Gundam kids are supposed to be knightlike they're basically the perfect age for that sort of thing.
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Oh man how gloriously stupid would An 80s gundam movie have been RX-78 miniatures exploding in a cloud of phosphorous. Dolph Lundgren doing it with a fellow pilot at the tip of a lance while a power ballad plays And just about any of the dumbest scenes from the show but live action
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I remember hearing that Cecil from Final Fantasy IV was 14 years old. I mean, really?
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Jul 7, 2018 18:34
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FreudianSlippers posted:I mean the Black Prince was 16 when he lead the English to victory at Crecy. That just made me realize most historical wars were starving illiterate teenagers running into each other
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If any of y'all are expecting this to be something other than a big dumb YA Hunger Games-lite adaptation of the material I don't know what Hollywood you've been looking at for the past decade. It's going to be like that Ghost in the Shell adaptation but for teens, missing the point entirely and just kind of being there. None of your favorite things are going to be in it outside of empty winks.
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feedmyleg posted:If any of y'all are expecting this to be something other than a big dumb YA Hunger Games-lite adaptation of the material I don't know what Hollywood you've been looking at for the past decade. It's going to be like that Ghost in the Shell adaptation but for teens, missing the point entirely and just kind of being there. None of your favorite things are going to be in it outside of empty winks. I don't know how you figure this, exactly? Like, the entire reason why everyone's been like "loving FINALLY" is because Gundam is the most obvious poo poo ever to make a movie out of, whereas GitS is a lot weirder and less "Hollywood." e: or, to be a little more direct, you can totally do a big dumb YA adaptation of 0079 and change literally nothing. It's already a mix of big badass action sequences and soapy character drama like YA fans want.
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Alan Smithee posted:Oh man how gloriously stupid would An 80s gundam movie have been Stan Winston and Stephen Norrington would have totally make a half-scale mobile suit puppet a la Aliens and Death Machine Actually, you guys need to see Kow Yokoyama's work with Dragon Heaven and Machinen Krieger film Nutrocker. They made scale puppets for that. Also, remember those complaints about the Transformers movies adding too much unnecessary human plot instead of giant robot action, because the effects were costly so putting Shia Lebouf or Marky Mark was cheaper. Gundam (or any robot anime) solves that with both by having the human elements of equal weight as the mech action.
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Thundercracker posted:It kinda blows my mind conservative media has largely ignored the Purge movies. It's as explicitly anti right wing as a movie can possibly get. And this new one takes the explicit social commentary to 11. https://twitter.com/talkhoops/status/1014653943421403136
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Jul 7, 2018 20:35
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It took them long enough lmao.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe probably did so well because 1) it’s a recognizable brand and 2) Return of the King came out in 2003 and audiences were chasing that high fantasy dragon, and Narnia had at least one large LOTR-style battle with monsters and stuff, I don’t think audiences care as much about fantasy battles currently. The Harry Potter films were also super popular at the time and The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe mixed LOTR-style fantasy with precocious British school children. ... but then there were a whole bunch of lackluster movie adaptations of kids books released between the first and second Narnia films: Charlotte's Web, Eragon, Bridge to Terabithia, Nanny McPhee, How to Eat Fried Worms, Curious George, The Golden Compass, The Spiderwick Chronicles, etc etc., so I guess the genre may have felt more than a little played out when The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian hit cinemas.
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Jul 7, 2018 20:40
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It whipped rear end.
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I'm kind of surprised how widely the Narnia books are taught in school considering how coocoo CS Lewis was. Sure all they really teach is LWW, PC, and VDT. But then some of those kids are going to pick up the last book which is insane.
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Jesus, THAT took a while Where the gently caress were they when Anarchy had Literally Malcolm X as the big good
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I don't know how you figure this, exactly? Point to Hollywood's thoughtful, faithful, and critically-acclaimed blockbuster anime adaptation.
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