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the socially liberal, fiscally conservative crowd will pull the GOP lever every loving time because you've got a be a loving ghoul at this point to still think conservative fiscal policy isn't a disaster (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Proud Christian Mom posted:"socially liberal, fiscally conservative" ah, yes, the "the problems are bad, but their causes are very very good" crowd which everyone knows is crucial to winning an election like, poo poo, didn't we *just* prove that "move right a little and grab those wavering "R" votes" is a recipe for disaster because it alienates the democratic base and drives away the felt/nonvoters, Godholio? what is the plan here aside from "hey, here's an idea for the left to start winning: stop complaining and let the republicans do and say whatever they want" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:oh word? I never said I don't believe it, and this is why I usually don't bother responding to you. You've got this bad habit of hearing/reading what you want, no matter how many times we've discussed this EXACT point. I speak for myself. I speak from EXACTLY the amount of authority that I described. Myself and a bunch of people I know that feel the same way. I don't give a gently caress if you agree, that's not required or even desired. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 8, 2018 04:47
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Operation is now under way to SCUBA the kids out. Resurrecting from last page because it's gonna be buried by people bickering about 
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Jul 8, 2018 04:50
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Anyone else want to continue this argument?
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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:Anyone else want to continue this argument? Bourbon is better then scotch. 
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BigDave posted:Bourbon is better then scotch. Pity the storage buildings aren't better 
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orange juche posted:Resurrecting from last page because it's gonna be buried by people bickering about Rare occasion where thoughts and prayers are appropriate, given its all most of us can do to help.
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Jul 8, 2018 04:58
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At least they're not taking Elon Musk seriously.
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Operation is now under way to SCUBA the kids out. If they can get a single kid past the choke point alive, I'd call it a success right there.  A 15-inch squeeze uphill underwater in silt-covered darkness is hard enough for a trained diver. But these kids don't even know how to swim.
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Jul 8, 2018 05:05
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It's horrifying to me and I do know how to swim. Luckily they're smaller I guess? That's....something?
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sharknado slashfic posted:It's horrifying to me and I do know how to swim. Luckily they're smaller I guess? That's....something? They’re also malnourished.
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sharknado slashfic posted:It's horrifying to me and I do know how to swim. Luckily they're smaller I guess? That's....something? And also driven by mortal fear. The entire operation will take at LEAST 12 hours.
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Jul 8, 2018 05:12
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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:I hope there are no more deaths rescuer or otherwise I really don't want to read up on it anymore until I get up tomorrow. I'm sick of bad news
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The Verge: Elon Musk says SpaceX is building a ‘kid-sized submarine’ to rescue trapped soccer team. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/7/17544452/elon-musk-spacex-thailand-cave-soccer-team-kid-sized-submarine-rescue Never fear, Musk has moved on to a sub from his bouncy castle tube idea I caught in passing yesterday.
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gently caress. I'm being dead loving serious here, id the rescue op gets those kids out alive, I'd reconsider my atheism, because it will take devine intervention to get them all out. The most heartbreaking thing that I thought of is that the rescuers arw going to have to triage the kids to determine the order of rescue. Can you imagine being in that situation? Not only do you have all that technical poo poo to get to them, but now you have to decide the order of execution, because in reality, that's what you are doing. gently caress.
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EBB posted:oh gently caress it my butthole is twinging from cave diving videos so you get this Goddamn it I hated this when I first saw it and it spoiled with age.
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If there is anything that humanity has taught me, is that we are amazingly fragile and simultaneousy resilient creatures.
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I'm almost afraid of saying this, but I really, really hope that a kid doesn't die and block the tunnel. gently caress I picked the wrong time to stop drinking. I hate dark water and I hate caves, this whole thing is hitting all of my phobias. This will either be the greatest of triumphs or the greatest of tragedies.
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EBB posted:oh gently caress it my butthole is twinging from cave diving videos so you get this 
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Those kids are gonna die. You can’t go from don’t know how to swim and haven’t eaten in over a week to cave diver just like that. They’re so, so, so, very hosed. Maybe a few will survive but I doubt it.
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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:Anyone else want to continue this argument? no but I haven't been hit with a probation for a long time even with poor trolling so I desire a 6er (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:The Verge: Elon Musk says SpaceX is building a ‘kid-sized submarine’ to rescue trapped soccer team. Wait, I have to be misunderstanding this, his plan to get the kids through a tunnel (that's difficult to navigate by professionals) is to put the kids in a high-tech ziplock bag and drag them out? Hell, his hamster tube made more sense.
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quote:The divers got the green light after an Australian doctor assessed the health of the boys last night and the waters had receded to such a degree that a large section of the roughly 3-mile way out was walkable, Osatanakorn said 
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Jul 8, 2018 06:12
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how do you take kids loving three miles underground and not stop and wonder whether you maybe shouldn't be doing this?????
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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:how do you take kids loving three miles underground and not stop and wonder whether you maybe shouldn't be doing this????? They weren't that far in, but as the floodwaters cut off their egress they had to just go to higher ground.
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People constantly forget the caves are three dimensional.
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well maybe there will be some news in about ten hours. christ.
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EBB posted:oh gently caress it my butthole is twinging from cave diving videos so you get this You... Monster
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The full details of the release preceding the start of the rescue were pretty  though. They were all "the kids are prepared mentally, morally and physically, and the conditions are excellent" or something like that... Which is a bit rich considering the kids can't swim, are still malnourished with atrophied muscles, and the water level receded Somewhat Hell, I'm terrified.
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Wasabi the J posted:People constantly forget the caves are three dimensional. I think they forget they're 2 dimensional sometimes
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Duzzy Funlop posted:The full details of the release preceding the start of the rescue were pretty Well they're not gonna go "yeah they're probably hosed" but I get your point
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I assume the flooded portion is still long enough to require scuba gear otherwise they wouldn't be talking about it being a scuba rescue. best of luck kids
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Wasabi the J posted:People constantly forget the caves are three dimensional. Yeah. I caved a fair amount as a kid and young adult, including caves where you check water levels and weather before you go in or crawl through muck with your head barely above water. People routinely thought I or my family were crazy people because they couldn’t get the dimensions and so on. Cave-diving? No thanks.
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I've dived some wrecks before and you see people get completely turned about and freak right the gently caress out in otherwise perfect conditions all the time. When you don't have that big golden orb in the sky telling you which way is up it can be super disorienting.
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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:Well they're not gonna go "yeah they're probably hosed" but I get your point Oh yeah, didn't mean that to sound like I was outraged at their disingenuity, I absolutely get how you need to sound optimistic and get everyone on board. Hell, if nothing else, it may do something for morale, I just feel like they kinda... Uh, overshot their target by a decent margin. It looks like the rain picked up again over there, so with lag time, throughput and all other factors, I'm guessing they're on yet another clock, considering they should reach the kids in an hour or two and then have another 5 hours minimum back out. I'm sending whatever spiritual support I can muster from my hospital room where my best friend "Artromot" is juggling around my leg repeatedly
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golden bubble posted:If they can get a single kid past the choke point alive, I'd call it a success right there. This picture is misleading. It's not just one point that is hosed like this. It's the whole drat trip.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Oh yeah, didn't mean that to sound like I was outraged at their disingenuity, I absolutely get how you need to sound optimistic and get everyone on board. Hell, if nothing else, it may do something for morale, I just feel like they kinda... Uh, overshot their target by a decent margin. That's a very German meal and I wish I could get good pepperloaf around here.
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ded posted:This picture is misleading. It's not just one point that is hosed like this. It's the whole drat trip. 
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