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G0RF posted:Also in FUD news... I lost it when he encountered the killer ramp. His space buggy gently touching the ramp just bounces his entire ship like a helium balloon. Then he somehow winds up clipping under his ship and having it crash and explode on top of him. REAL NEWTONIAN PHYSICS™ colonelwest fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jul 8, 2018 |
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XK posted:I got your tax, bot. That's actually rather cool. I wasn't aware that Parrots had Object Permanence. http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/2006/08/04/friday-grey-matters-parrots-ha/ vv And what is that adorable little critter? Munin fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 8, 2018 |
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The Titanic posted:Also just judging from the outside looking in at how scattered everything is and appears to be, I wouldn't be surprised if drugs became a big issue with Chris, and have also impacted the project. I may never know for sure, but I just get that feeling with watching how he acts and how he looks. Maybe that's natural for him though I don't know. The Chris/drugs thing has long been a meme without a source. The CIG LA workplace does seem to have been pretty lax about illicit substances though. If you can shoot a segment of ATV totally baked with weed right out on your desk, and neither interview subject, nor editor, nor cameraperson says “oh hell no”, it at least suggests Chris & Sandi ran a very chillax shop.
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Virtual Captain posted:I may be alone in this line of thought but the "playable" hangar module was a huge mistake in my opinion. It celebrated and rewarded CIG for endless asset polishing and immediately set them off in an unrecoverable direction in terms of their vehicle functionality. Looking at Star Citizen from a purely technical standpoint, I think this was the original "cart before the horse" moment. No, you are not alone. I very much agree. The hangar module would have been fine if this was the core game play loop for the intended end-result: Walk around sci-fi interiors and look at things. Arena Commander is more like what I was talking about. Getting the Space Opera/WW2 dog-fighting game up and running. This is where they should have left the game until they had a good flight model and good core game-play. That's of course under the assumption that they were making a space fighter game, with multiplayer elements, and not an MMO. This was doomed from the moment they put the MMO scope into the kickstarter pitch. MMOs cannot be built iteratively in this fashion. Certainly not from a tech demo, but even with a properly designed first iteration, they'd run into scalability and architectural issues. Not to mention that CryEngine is an exceptionally poor choice of engine for an MMO. That's why I think they did a hilarious combination of right and wrong. They did right in the sense of getting something playable out there - but they did horribly wrong by building it on a tech demo and trying to make this into an MMO.
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PederP posted:This was doomed from the moment they put the MMO scope into the kickstarter pitch. MMOs cannot be built iteratively in this fashion. Certainly not from a tech demo, but even with a properly designed first iteration, they'd run into scalability and architectural issues. Well, I mean, they can, kinda. A lot of what goes into building an MMO can be done iteratively. But it's an amazingly poor start to commit as hard as they did to a networking model that cannot be iterated into something that will be suitable for an MMO; not only did it set bad expectations for what was possible with the engine, it seemed to calcify the idea that there was nothing wrong with CryEngine's networking model and that it was clear sailing from there. PederP posted:Not to mention that CryEngine is an exceptionally poor choice of engine for an MMO. Boy is it ever. It's not the first time someone has tried, though (no thanks to the networking model, which was tossed immediately). CryTek were awfully eager to have an MMO under their belt at the time... I can't help but wonder if they buddied up so hard with Chris because the relative failure of that one still stung and they were a bit desperate for a second chance.
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In game developer land, newbies coming in to ask how to make their MMO dream game is a running joke at this point (because they all fail)
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Jul 8, 2018 19:27
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Xaerael posted:TBF, any and all Star Citizen vs Warframe discussions should just start and end with their respective soundtracks. I still have trouble listening to that song, because it brings back the feelings of the Second Dream quest. What the gently caress, dumb f2p videogames should not resonate emotionally! I had to stop playing the game for over a week after that because I was so overwhelmed by what had happened. But you know, Star Citizen has a bored luke skywalker in it.
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colonelwest posted:How long before the narrative on r/StarCitizer and Spectrum becomes that Digital Extremes blatantly stole ideas and technology from CIG and should be taken to space court?
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PederP posted:This was doomed from the moment they put the MMO scope into the kickstarter pitch. but, Star Citizen isn't an MMO, didn't any of you actually read the kickstarter? 
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G0RF posted:The Chris/drugs thing has long been a meme without a source. All the evidence is circumstantial, of course, but I think the genesis of it was that picture of him blasting a hookah. That ended up just being tobacco iirc but when combined with stuff like the 8 hour letter writing sprees, flailing hands, inability to clearly communicate thoughts or ideas, and profuse sweating it’s pretty easy to think maybe the Coke Roberts memes aren’t completely fictional
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Chris Roberts just totally takes the cake in this area, and then does unspeakable things to the cake, and tries to pass it back to you with a $500 price tag.  Star Citizen: Doing unspeakable things to the cake
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Jul 8, 2018 19:54
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Quavers posted:Scott is having trouble capturing useful footage for a video on Alpha 3.2: Oh wow, they take him on a tour. Wankpod loop to start, followed by unexpected ambulation ('maybe they are trying to work on low gravity animations'), a valiant search for a working console, cheered up by NPCs walking into furniture and a relaxing pause having winded himself on a level piece of ground, and then 'I'm literally now getting sucked through the screen...' Later he successfully opens a door and then pushes the die button... Beautiful.
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What kind of motivational tapes or other self motivational material do you think Chris is in to? He’s in Hollywood and that’s a hotbed of magical thinking, Scientology, The Secret and other brain hacks to keep you pushing for your dreams until your ship comes in. I bet (especially in the dark years before the Kickstarter) Chris had to do something to keep him going.
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doingitwrong posted:What kind of motivational tapes or other self motivational material do you think Chris is in to? He’s in Hollywood and that’s a hotbed of magical thinking, Scientology, The Secret and other brain hacks to keep you pushing for your dreams until your ship comes in. I bet (especially in the dark years before the Kickstarter) Chris had to do something to keep him going. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LSWDZmEWn0
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Pixelate posted:Oh wow, they take him on a tour. Wankpod loop to start, followed by unexpected ambulation ('maybe they are trying to work on low gravity animations'), a valiant search for a working console, cheered up by NPCs walking into furniture and a relaxing pause having winded himself on a level piece of ground, and then 'I'm literally now getting sucked through the screen...' Also tried to demo some contracts and cargo hauling, both failed due to bugs. Also mining requires a ship which costs $$$ and you still can’t purchase ships in game, even the rental system got disabled.
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MilesK posted:but, Star Citizen isn't an MMO, didn't any of you actually read the kickstarter? Yeah, but that's just typical CIG speak in that the game will be everything to everyone... which i think we all know, just isn't possible.
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The Rabbi T. White posted:Erectile Dysfunction. You play a 50 something year old failed movie director who married a softcore porn "actress" who can't get hard due to the amount of blow you have do. The object of the game is to balance the amount of coke that you need to suppress any morals so you can lie to people with autism to get more money for more coke, with Viagra and avoid having a stroke. Little known fact about this game: is that the mini game for balancing the coke with the Viagra is alarmingly similar to the tier 0 mining minigame in SC.
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Star citizen therapy group : A thread so hot even miku doesn't have enough fans for it.
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Quavers posted:Scott is having trouble capturing useful footage for a video on Alpha 3.2: Making gameplay videos like this is just starting to become immoral.
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What the actual gently caress? That guy is having a meltdown on a sport sub against a SC critic?
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MilesK posted:but, Star Citizen isn't an MMO, didn't any of you actually read the kickstarter? voters have decided to expand the scope, pray they do not expand it anymore
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illectro posted:Also tried to demo some contracts and cargo hauling, both failed due to bugs. Also mining requires a ship which costs $$$ and you still can’t purchase ships in game, even the rental system got disabled. Not sure why you keep the video unlisted. Are you really waiting to get a decent “game working” shot? The game is broken. That is the loving game. Just do it. You would probably lose your “press pass” from CIG but at least you would be being honest. MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jul 8, 2018 |
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Hmmm Warframe, might have to have a go at that. 
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illectro posted:Also tried to demo some contracts and cargo hauling, both failed due to bugs. Also mining requires a ship which costs $$$ and you still can’t purchase ships in game, even the rental system got disabled.  Star Citizen is cool and good
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Sabreseven posted:Hmmm Warframe, might have to have a go at that. 
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Evil is one of those words that's hard to define... Sandi seems to be in this mainly to satisfy her own ego and career with no concern for anyone else around her, and Ortwin is some kind of courtroom kobold that feeds on legal misery, but Chris... well, again, I'm basing this on people I've met that seem to be of a similar mindset. I don't think he came into this with the intent to defraud anyone. I view it as the movie Blazing Saddles. Roberts - The Gov Ortwin - Hedley Lamarr etc.
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"It's alpha" excuse but for a specific feature. Implying there will be later revisions of the feature that complete the dream. In reality it's checking off bullet points so they can abandon the game with plausible deniability
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Sabreseven posted:Hmmm Warframe, might have to have a go at that. Yeah, i'd consider the same, but currently playing Fortnite: Save the World, and that means i already have one very time consuming and grindy game on my plate. I don't think i could handle another at this time.
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Agony Aunt posted:Yeah, i'd consider the same, but currently playing Fortnite: Save the World, and that means i already have one very time consuming and grindy game on my plate. I don't think i could handle another at this time. I'm staying well away from Fortnite 
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Colostomy Bag posted:I view it as the movie Blazing Saddles. Hobo Lando - Taggart Sandi Roberts - Lili von Shtupp "TheTeutonic Titswillow" Derek Smart - Bart Dooguk fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jul 8, 2018 |
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Sabreseven posted:I'm staying well away from Fortnite My kids are addicted. It's completely replaced Minecraft as "the game you must play when you're a small child" in this household.
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Dooguk posted:Hobo Lando - Taggart Yeah, Hobo as Taggart is good as are the other ones. Can't quite figure out Mongo though. And Jim for that matter.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Yeah, Hobo as Taggart is good as are the other ones. For Mongo take your pick. They all like candy. Major Tom - Jim? Dooguk fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 8, 2018 |
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Dooguk posted:For Mongo take your pick. They all like candy. And CIG's developers are only pawns in the game of life.
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Agony Aunt posted:What the actual gently caress? Yeah this is from forever ago, and is the result of the "extra underscore" reference. It was a pretty incredible meltdown.
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