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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Patter Song posted:

Anarcho-Liberals 1848 (after MTTH)
Socialists 1860 (after MTTH)
Communists 1870 (after MTTH)
Fascists 1905 (after MTTH)

MTTH can gently caress with you, though. I've had Communism not be discovered until well into the 1890s before.

One more reason to have gone Moderate! Proudhonism is for freshman poli sci majors, schmucks, and the Paris Commune. Let's get proper stuck in with the reds.


Hashim posted:

You guys are lucky Royalists weren't in charge:



we wouldn't have actually repealed the outlawed slavery though, but definitely one or two of the other reforms

I feel there should be a Flavius Belisarius cartoon for this.

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RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
How the gently caress does the game decide on your upper house ideologies anyway, I don't remember at all.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

RabidWeasel posted:

How the gently caress does the game decide on your upper house ideologies anyway, I don't remember at all.

Depends on the upper house reform. Ruling Party only is obvious. Appointed means only aristocrats and capitalists vote on the upper house. Two Per State is more complicated and assigns seats based on the popularity of each ideology in each state, kind of like the US Senate, so your less populated states have a bigger voice, which generally means more conservatives than Based On Population but less than Appointed. And Based On Population makes it basically the same as your lower house.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

RabidWeasel posted:

How the gently caress does the game decide on your upper house ideologies anyway, I don't remember at all.

In this particular case, a bunch of events caused by the Age of Liberalism firing is what resulted in reactionaries gaining traction in the upper house, with the Moderates trying (and largely failing) to walk a fine line between appeasing the liberal masses and maintaining their age-old rights as nobles.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Does allowing slavery, if you have no slave pops, even do anything?

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

habeasdorkus posted:

One more reason to have gone Moderate! Proudhonism is for freshman poli sci majors, schmucks, and the Paris Commune. Let's get proper stuck in with the reds.


I feel there should be a Flavius Belisarius cartoon for this.

I keep wanting to but :effort:

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Morrow posted:

Does allowing slavery, if you have no slave pops, even do anything?

Not really (other than lowering our Immigrant Attraction by a negligible 1%, which will, as an Old World country, make people slightly more eager to emigrate). Main other effect is on your pops: Liberals hate slavery and they'll get increasingly agitated about its legality.

You can't get new slaves, barring conquering territory with slaves.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003


ive never seen this smiley before but its definitely either evocative of the ideals of moderation or bitterly owning me or both

rarx
Jun 8, 2018

NewMars posted:

Frankly we should've hit both.

Yeah, even with Morocco defending Qattalun it should've been doable to take them out quickly with the Moroccans entirely occupied with Gharbia. The difficult part would be surviving to a white peace with Morocco, but the Gharbian war did last forever.
Now it'll take forever until there's a sufficiently distracting crisis.

Clayren
Jun 4, 2008

grandma plz don't folow me on twiter its embarassing, if u want to know what animes im watching jsut read the family newsletter like normal

Hashim posted:

You guys are lucky Royalists weren't in charge:




we wouldn't have actually repealed the outlawed slavery though, but definitely one or two of the other reforms

Given how big a thing slavery is in Morocco (although perhaps less now that its colonies have broken away) I don't doubt Andalusians have been anti-slavery for a long time out of spite, more than any moral quibbles.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Clayren posted:

Given how big a thing slavery is in Morocco (although perhaps less now that its colonies have broken away) I don't doubt Andalusians have been anti-slavery for a long time out of spite, more than any moral quibbles.

Literally all of Europe united to denounce Morocco as the center of the world's greatest evil, if I remember correctly. Because seriously, gently caress Morocco.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Clayren posted:

Given how big a thing slavery is in Morocco (although perhaps less now that its colonies have broken away) I don't doubt Andalusians have been anti-slavery for a long time out of spite, more than any moral quibbles.

The Moroccans presumably practice slavery in the metropole as well as the colonies.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

i wonder how practices of slavery east and west of the Atlantic differ/don't? slavery in the mediterranean, mostly of christians by muslims iirc and sometimes raiding as far as ireland or maybe it was iceland i read about, in about the same time period... but the scale and economic deployment of the africa->western hemisphere slave trade seem to have been a different story entirely

i get the impression most of slave america depended on constant imports due to mortality and it was only like virginia and north carolina on the far north that ended up profiting more by raising and selling slaves like any other livestock. that movement of human livestock from the east to places like mississippi, missouri, texas, etc. was part of the opening of the west

edit: not to exonerate US slaveholders in any way other than circumstance - in parts of the USA where man-killing crops were grown, like jute and indigo in coastal carolina and sugar in i think louisiana, the same murderous practices were used that any western hemisphere slave owner in a similar situation would've employed

but people don't generally want to think too much about the flourishing and integral slave economy that made america what it is today

but back to my point - i wonder if moroccans have different policies for their trans- and cis-Atlantic slaves (or even ethnic/religious groups, although maybe we can let a few opportunities for genocide slide ya kno)



edit: on a less annoying note, the details of the conversion to vicky are really interesting and i'm enjoying hyperanalyzing them. that's all this is :unsmith:

oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jul 7, 2018

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Sometimes an Icelandic fishing village would just lose most of its adult male population because they got overtaken by North African slavers while out at sea yeah.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

oystertoadfish posted:

i wonder how practices of slavery east and west of the Atlantic differ/don't? slavery in the mediterranean, mostly of christians by muslims iirc and sometimes raiding as far as ireland or maybe it was iceland i read about, in about the same time period... but the scale and economic deployment of the africa->western hemisphere slave trade seem to have been a different story entirely

i get the impression most of slave america depended on constant imports due to mortality and it was only like virginia and north carolina on the far north that ended up profiting more by raising and selling slaves like any other livestock. that movement of human livestock from the east to places like mississippi, missouri, texas, etc. was part of the opening of the west

edit: not to exonerate US slaveholders in any way other than circumstance - in parts of the USA where man-killing crops were grown, like jute and indigo in coastal carolina and sugar in i think louisiana, the same murderous practices were used that any western hemisphere slave owner in a similar situation would've employed

but people don't generally want to think too much about the flourishing and integral slave economy that made america what it is today

but back to my point - i wonder if moroccans have different policies for their trans- and cis-Atlantic slaves (or even ethnic/religious groups, although maybe we can let a few opportunities for genocide slide ya kno)



edit: on a less annoying note, the details of the conversion to vicky are really interesting and i'm enjoying hyperanalyzing them. that's all this is :unsmith:

I thought Indigo was the less lovely crop to harvest than Sugar based off reading on Haiti, but it being only marginally less deadly wouldn't surprise me either given how lovely Haiti was.

Clayren
Jun 4, 2008

grandma plz don't folow me on twiter its embarassing, if u want to know what animes im watching jsut read the family newsletter like normal
Al Andalus likely allows, if not outright encourages, slaves who can get a boat, raft or anything that will float and cross the 9 miles to Gibraltar to become free citizens as soon as they touch ground. It'd be a hard trip to do, but people have crossed greater distances from Cuba to Florida.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Jack2142 posted:

I thought Indigo was the less lovely crop to harvest than Sugar based off reading on Haiti, but it being only marginally less deadly wouldn't surprise me either given how lovely Haiti was.

my knowledge is mostly from an undergrad class many many many years ago. it was a good class, good reading list and professor. but I don't actually know anything per se

nevertheless, another sociopolitical factor in the Western hemisphere will be the balance between the I think heavily slave operated northeast of Brazil, the oldest settled area, and the southeast of Rio and Sao Paulo. I think there's been a lot of internal migration from the former to the latter in recent generations

if the the new government is slaveholding, power might gravitate to the north, or vice versa. just a thought of sorts. it's a fun set of hypotheticals

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Hashim posted:

You guys are lucky Royalists weren't in charge:




we wouldn't have actually repealed the outlawed slavery though, but definitely one or two of the other reforms

I didn’t realize that the Royalist Party is the pro-slavery party. I didn’t think that we had any pro-slavery parties.

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

Snipee posted:

I didn’t realize that the Royalist Party is the pro-slavery party. I didn’t think that we had any pro-slavery parties.
Yeah, I don't think they would be very popular, not because morals, just because "gently caress Morocco".

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!

Clayren posted:

Al Andalus likely allows, if not outright encourages, slaves who can get a boat, raft or anything that will float and cross the 9 miles to Gibraltar to become free citizens as soon as they touch ground. It'd be a hard trip to do, but people have crossed greater distances from Cuba to Florida.

I hope we can try and incite slave uprisings in Morocco once we finally get our imperialism on.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Even the Royalists in Al Andalus would really have no reason to be pro-slavery for the most part. The Royals themselves certainly wouldn't.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I feel like slavery in general having always been acceptable in north Africa would mean there wouldn't be too much pushback against new world chattel slavery bleeding back into the homeland, especially where there's big farms.

The weirdest aspect is that the center of their empire is so close to the slave coast, it's not hard to imagine slave shipments stopping by the capital for administrative or convenience or even having the slave markets there. I wouldn't be surprised if they conquered Mali and tried just putting a railroad across the Sahara just to expidite the process. They also have such a spanning empire, basically this world's equivalent of Britain, and while Britain had (nominally) abandoned slavery at this point, Morocco's probably shipping its slaves out to India, to Indonesia, to Australia, and probably still sells them to its former colonies out in the Americas.

And with slavery so prevalent and so much of a history in its society with slavery, slaves probably permeate so much of the society to really mess it up socially. It's terrifying to think about a whole worldwide empire having the same barbaric attitude as the antebellum American south.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Talas posted:

Yeah, I don't think they would be very popular, not because morals, just because "gently caress Morocco".

“gently caress Morocco” is a totally valid moral worldview in this timeline.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

If we are ever in a position to occupy Marrakesh again, I hope we free the slaves, consequences be damned.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

The slavery is bad but as it wouldn't have been passed, I'm just looking over at that 'no school system' and wincing. Yeah, that'd work out great for us.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

PetraCore posted:

The slavery is bad but as it wouldn't have been passed, I'm just looking over at that 'no school system' and wincing. Yeah, that'd work out great for us.

We already have no school system.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

We need a school system, then!

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
It looks like the options Hashim could've done with Reactionaries were:

Changing slavery from Outlawed to Allowed (he already said he wouldn't do that)

Changing Upper House from "Appointed" to "Ruling Party Only" (which is actually a gigantic exploit, as if you make your ruling party Liberal you can pass every political reform you want and if you make them Socialist you can pass every social reform you want)

Changing voting from "Landed Only" to "No Voting" (which would've reverted us to Absolute Monarchy)

Changing press from "Censored Press" back to "State Press Only" (dramatically lowering Consciousness and probably having a lot of narrative effects)

Changing political party policy from "Harassed parties" to "Underground only" (least mechanical effect, but pretty big narrative ones).


Speaking of exploits and Upper House shenanigans, nothing in V2 quite beats a democratically-elected Fascist government for exploits, if you are able to prevent it from decaying into a dictatorship. Fascists will support enacting anything you want if they are in power (and will automatically oppose everything ever if they're out of power). The downside is that they'll eventually try to coup you into a dictatorship and the other downside is, obviously, that playing as fascists should make you feel dirty.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Jack2142 posted:

I thought Indigo was the less lovely crop to harvest than Sugar based off reading on Haiti, but it being only marginally less deadly wouldn't surprise me either given how lovely Haiti was.

Less lovely is still a shockingly high mortality rate instead of basically a death sentence. IIRC Haitian sugar plantations were the worst, indigo was still deadly, and coffee was really bad but more on the level of US chattel slavery.

Kinda puts the Haitian revolution in perspective, especially Dessaline's 1804 genocide of white people, the 3-5k he killed was like a month of deaths of slaves in the sugar plantations prior to the revolution. It doesn't in any way justify it, but dang. I know that Mike Duncan of the History of Rome and Revolutions podcasts has said the only place that matches a Haitian sugar plantation for sheer deadliness and cruelty are Roman mines.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Jul 7, 2018

rarx
Jun 8, 2018
It'll be interesting to see how long Morocco sticks with slavery in this timeline, because IRL the Mahgrebi region has some of the longest, widest and deepest tradition of slavery in the world, and is still one of the most actively slave-holding areas in the world today. I'd recommend ignoring the Global Slavery Index as while their data is excellent for the West and Asia they're bad at picking up the numbers in countries with poor infrastructure, Mauritania has claims of slavery as high up as 10-20% that puts them ahead of North Korea at about 4%.
Slavery's Last Stronghold (by John D. Sutter): http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/world/mauritania.slaverys.last.stronghold/index.html

rarx fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Jul 7, 2018

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Royalists

gently caress railroads.

Also, make stuff work without State Capitalism. And banish the socialist specter if it ever rears its head.

e: Ah. Didn't see the post declaring the vote over.

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jul 7, 2018

puppets freak me out
Dec 18, 2015

Randarkman posted:

Royalists

gently caress railroads.

Also, make stuff work without State Capitalism. And banish the socialist specter if it ever rears its head.

e: Ah. Didn't see the post declaring the vote over.

Moroccan saboteur spotted.

Erlkonig
Dec 7, 2012
Hot drat, I didn't expect a Berber world empire to be so terrifying, but having read a bit about Berber pirates during the Middle Ages and then in the Renaissance, just thinking about life in Morocco feels nightmarish.

Not for the Moroccans though. I'm sure they are all having a good ol' time with their European/African servants doing all the hard labour for them.

It's actually kind of terrifying. Slavery must be so ingrained in their society that it makes you wonder whether they will even be capable of surviving as a state should their slaves rebel. It's like the Roman Empire of classical antiquity but cranked up to eleven and actually having guns and cannons.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Let's try to avoid painting Morocco as some sort of ersatz Dominion of Draka please.

Those are terrible books.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Let's try to avoid painting Morocco as some sort of ersatz Dominion of Draka please.

Those are terrible books.

Nah, they're like gurm's slave cities. That is to say just comically evil.

Before qualifying as proper soldiers their Indian soldiers have to kill a puppy and sneak into the slave quarters and murder a baby in front of its parents.

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 8, 2018

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
Chapter 4 - Springtime of Nations - 1845 to 1850


As 1845 begins, newspapers across Europe are all captivated by a single topic: the outbreak of rebellion in India, where a group of sepoys had just launched a massive revolt against their Moroccan commanders.

Several long decades in the making, the Sepoy Mutiny was the result of years of autocratic rule, harsh taxes and indiscriminate conscription, with thousands of Indians shipped across the world to fight in Morocco’s wars. The Great Gharbian Revolt changed everything, however, spurring the sepoys to band together and launch an attack on Berber fortresses. The Almoravid Empire is frail and teetering, and if the Indians are ever going to cast off their chains, then this was the time.



A war scare also broke out closer to home, with the already-hostile relations between Al Andalus and León-Castille sinking further when an Andalusi nationalist in Burghus was imprisoned and executed. Several nobles in the Majlis Assembly immediately began calling for war, but the final decision wasn’t down to them, but the Grand Vizier and Sultan.



Unfortunately for the sabre-rattling Royalists and hawkish Imperialists, however, the Moderates won another term with a comfortable margin. And not eager to war with Morocco just yet, the moderates quickly deescalated the war scare, soothing the strained relations between Al Andalus and León-Castille.



And perhaps it was for the best, because Al Andalus would have its hands full for the next few years, as liberal sentiments were on the rise all across Europe. Even in Iberia, radical and democratic ideas began to waken and spread, with the people growing increasingly agitated.



Before long, campaigns demanding greater representation in the Majlis began to gain traction, with the people driven to action by a series of illegal publications. The moderates were quick to quash these movements, but this only forced them to move underground instead, where they were all the more dangerous.




And with a rise in liberalism, there will inevitably be a rise in separatist movements, as Portuguese governors and mayors began to encourage nationalist publications. The Majlis quickly put a stop to it, of course, replacing these malcontents with more capable and loyal Andalusi administrators.




Across the straits, Morocco had been suffering through a difficult few years, but finally caught a lucky break with the discovery of several diamond mines in their African colonies. This sudden influx of money was quickly funnelled into the recruitment of new armies, which would then embark on the long voyage to India, where Berber forces were preparing to face the mutineers.




In Benin, meanwhile, modernisation efforts had been progressing nicely for several years now. Despite significant opposition from the aristocratic elite, Oba Eweka managed to forcibly reform the administration and economy, though the standing army was positively primitive.

It was clear that Benin would need foreign help if they were actually going to modernise, so the king dispatched missions to several great powers of Europe, instructing them to report back on any useful information regarding their military, industrial and educational systems.



And as one of Europe’s rising powers, Qadis was the first stop made by the Beninese diplomats, who marvelled at the many architectural and cultural landmarks of the city. After several months spent touring the country, meeting with top officials and inspecting factories and railroads, the Beninese requested assistance in doing the same in Benin City, their capital and the largest city in West Africa.

The moderates weren’t interested in meddling in Africa, but Benin could make a valuable ally if war ever broke out with Morocco, so they eventually decided to aid them in building an industrial foundation.



Moving eastward, the Balkan peninsula had been consumed by war these past three years, with the triple alliance of Hungary-Bulgaria-Greece declaring war on the Kingdom of Serbia. Rather than deal with the three invasions concurrently, the Serbian leadership decided to tackle one at a time, throwing back the Bulgarians after a short campaign that ended in the capture of Sofia.



The campaign had lasted just four months, but that proved long enough for the Hungarians and Greeks to push deep into Serbian territory, promising an early end to the wars.

That was before the Celtic Union intervened, however, honouring their alliance with Serbia. Landing a small army at Euboea, the Celts quickly marched on Athens and brought the Greeks to heel, forcing them to accept the status quo.




The belligerent Hungarians would prove a more challenging and resilient foe, however, as they’d consistently demonstrated over the course of the Tirruni Wars.

Across the width of the Atlantic Ocean, meanwhile, another war exploded between New England and Neimni Sund. The New English were determined to absorb the entirety of the republic, it would seem, and challenge the Ibrizi for dominance in the continent.



Further south, on the other hand, war was only just coming to an end. After a disastrous invasion of Walidrar, the armies of Nuquril were surrounded and crushed in the Andean Mountains, with the Imjiri armies then pushing south and marching on the enemy capital.

The war would end a year later, and Nuquril was left devastated and bankrupt, with no choice but to submit to the aggressors. The Sultan of Nuquril was forced to abdicate his crown to his grandson, who promptly agreed to all of Imjir’s demands, surrendering the sovereignty of his nation.




And with that, over fifteen years of war in South Gharbia comes to an end, with Imjir emerging triumphant as the dominant state in the continent. And in a momentous occasion, the Sultans of Imjir, Walidrar and Nuquril met at Imariz, where they joined hands to declare the dawn of the Union of Berber Sultanates - or, as it would quickly become known, the Berber Union.




In an attempt to soothe tensions between and unify their already-rivalled peoples, the “Three Sultans” choose Imariz as their new capital, a diverse metropolitan city that is situated much closer to Walidrar and Nuquril.

It’s already clear that this Berber Union has the potential to become one of most powerful countries in the world, but its beginnings were difficult and chaotic, so it will take several years of peace and stability before they can truly be called a union. All the same, a new era is undoubtedly beginning in Gharbia, where the once-assured preeminence of Ibriz is no longer set in stone.



It wasn’t long before the attentions of the Andalusi were ripped from the new world, however, and back to their own peninsula. The past couple years had been very tenuous, with the moderates walking a dangerous line between appeasing the liberals and safeguarding their age-old rights as nobles.




And, to put it bluntly, they failed. Tensions continued to rise across the country, protests and demonstrations often turned violent, and clashes between liberals and reactionaries became commonplace. It was clear that the people could not be cowed or intimidated this time, with thousands of workers, students and intellectuals forming a broad coalition, adamant in their demands for political reform.



Al Andalus wasn’t the only nation affected by this sudden wave of liberalism, of course, with countries all across Europe trying and failing to stem the tide. Demonstrations and protests, clashes and confrontations, insurrections and revolts all overwhelmed the continent, as the new revolutionaries were stirred from their slumber and into action.

Thus began the Springtime of Nations.







In Al Andalus, the liberal revolutions began as largely non-violent affairs, with their demands very modest in nature. These initial demands were quickly inflamed by radical publications and ideological developments from noted revolutionaries, however, and before long the liberals were calling for weighted male suffrage, extensive voting reform and freedom of press. Ridiculous demands, every one.




Uthman al-Houd, the Grand Vizier of Al Andalus, attempted in vain to maintain order in the country. He called for stability in the upper and lower houses, an end to the fighting in the streets, and moderate concessions to the liberals. And Uthman was a good orator, but his speeches weren’t enough to sway the Majlis from their long-established traditions, which the assembly refused to compromise.



At the same time, industrial development continued unabated with the incorporation of the practical steam engine into the mining and farming networks dotting Iberia, making the process much more efficient and greatly improving their output.



And in an effort to draw the restless youth away from protests and marches, the moderates invested thousands of dinars into upgrading several factories in Ishbiliya and Granada, massively increasing their employment capacity.




The growing capitalist class in Al Andalus also managed to scrounge together enough funds to join the industrial game, launching a luxury clothes factory in Ishbiliya.



Further development into railway technology was slow and ponderous, but the Majlis did authorise an extension of the Western Railway, linking the two major cities of Lishbuna and Burtuqal. A smaller stretch of rail was also constructed in the north, linking the major industrial towns that dotted Galicia.



The moderates clinched another impressive victory early in 1849, as negotiations to build an electrical telegraph line between Iberia and North Africa ended in success, with the project launched by Sultan Utbah a few weeks later. The wire would stretch the 25 miles between Qadis and Tangier, spanning the Straits of Gibraltar and allowing for rapid communication between Al Andalus and Morocco, serving as a bridge between continents.



The government didn’t have much time to bask in their achievement, however, as spectators and observers turned to the rising tensions in Italy. Peaceful demonstrations for greater autonomy had been ongoing for years now, but the Bavarians refused to budge on their stance, insisting on direct military rule in the region.

And with liberal movements sweeping across Europe, it was inevitable that these peaceful protests would explode into violence before long, attracting the attentions of several Great Powers.



Determined to stay at peace whilst the liberal revolutions were ongoing, however, the great powers agreed to maintain the status quo in Italy. The Italians would not have a state of their own...



That is, if the great powers had their way.

The Italians weren’t happy with a bunch of Germans negotiating away their rights and liberties, and they certainly weren’t going to sit back and do nothing about it. So in a sudden and wide-ranging uprising, a powerful coalition of politicians and generals toppled their Bavarian governors, seizing control of Venice, Romagna, Ancona and a few isolated cities in Lombardy.



It had been centuries since the Italians had a king of their own, and with Europe caught up in waves of liberalism and reformists, the new administration in Italy unanimously agreed to uphold democracy and republicanism above all else.

Before they could elect a new president, however, the Italians had a war to win. And unless they managed to entice the intervention of a great power, their chances of doing that are very slim indeed.




Jumping back to Iberia, meanwhile, the Andalusi had troubles of their own to worry about. Several revolts had erupted in western Iberia, but unlike those in Italy, an ideological split had divided the working classes and the soldiery. As a result, these uncoordinated rebellions consisted almost entirely of badly-armed, untrained factory workers - not exactly a revolution.



Grand Vizier Uthman was quick to dispatch the Andalusi Army, under the supreme command of Cyrah ibn Cyrah, with stern instructions to quash the rebellions and restore order.



The veteran commander did just that, demanding the rebels to lay down their arms and surrender, and gunning them down in the streets when they refused. After mere weeks of fighting, thousands of rebels were dead and buried, with thousands more dying in hospitals and being carted to prisons.





Unfortunately, a scant few hours before he was to depart Shilb, a well-aimed bullet caught Cyrah ibn Cyrah in the back of the neck and sent him sprawling. The assassin was quickly wrestled to the ground, but the damage was done, and the commander was dead.



Unsurprisingly, the atmosphere in Qadis was grim for a few weeks, but some much-needed good news arrived before long. Andalusi diplomats had just concluded a formal military alliance with Benin, and in return for extensive assistance in their modernisation, the Beninese had agreed to grant the Andalusi extensive trading privileges, as well as extraterritoriality to any Andalusi residing within their kingdom.




To the north, meanwhile, the French-Hanoverian influence war being waged in the Rhine Confederacy had been heating up these past few months. It was obvious that Hannover wanted to absorb the Rhine into any future German union, whilst the French saw it as their rightful reward for the sacrifices made during the Revolutionary Wars, and wanted to maintain it as a buffer state against Hannover.




Further east, the liberal revolutions plaguing Hannover, Poland and Russia had been firmly nationalist in nature. Hannover and Russia were both able to crush these movements easily enough, but the petty states separating them weren’t as capable or powerful, with pan-nationalists seizing power in both Eastphalia and Brandenburg.



In the Balkans, meanwhile, five years of destructive war finally ended with the Serbs victorious. The final cost in lives numbered almost two hundred thousand, but to the Serbs it will have been well worth it, as they reinforced their position in the peninsula, humbled both Bulgaria and Greece, and saw their primary rival in Hungary collapse to infighting and revolution.




In India, meanwhile, the Sepoy Mutiny was firmly crushed by Moroccan forces after four years of heavy fighting. Despite suffering hundreds of thousands of casualties, nationalist tensions will continue to simmer over the next few decades, with the Indians waiting for the next opportune moment to rise up.

The Berbers, on the other hand, have already launched several aggressive campaigns into neighbouring states. Sultan Yahya dreams of a Berber Raj that stretches across the entirety of the subcontinent, and as he grows ever older, he only becomes more determined to see it realised.




Across the frenzied waters and ocean breezes of the Atlantic, the second war between Neimni Sund and New England ends as expected, with the latter seizing vast stretches of territory and incorporating into their realm.




Back in Iberia, the brutal and decisive defeat of the liberal revolts had resulted in a gradual ebbing of liberal sympathies, as the various demonstrations and marches became less common. By the early days of December, in fact, the moderates proudly proclaimed an end to the Liberal Revolutions in Al Andalus, which had been sparked off so long ago by the funeral of Sahim Tirruni.



Even better, a breakthrough in rail technology was made shortly afterwards, as Andalusi engineers and inventors created working models that relied completely on steam power.

The Majlis quickly authorised the construction of new track all along the Qadis-Ishbiliya line, with several steam-driven locomotives also being commissioned, a much more productive and efficient alternative to the horse-drawn trains that had been used until then.



Across the Mediterranean, meanwhile, the Italian Revolution had been raging without break over the past two years. Italian prospects initially looked very bleak, but a year into the war they managed to win a powerful ally in Hannover, with the north German state intervening shortly thereafter.

And with their new ally suddenly reviving their odds and giving new life to the Revolution, the Italians launched a massive counter-attack into Venice, whilst Hanoverian armies descended on München from the north.



The Bavarian capital fell a few weeks later, and with that, their hopes of bringing a quick and decisive end to the Italian Revolution were dashed. The following negotiations were bitter and spiteful, with Hannover imposing a harsh and humiliating peace on the Bavarians, who were forced to formally recognise Italian independence and Hanoverian supremacy.



Bavaria, crushed and desperate, immediately reached out for new allies. They failed to find any in Russia and France, but the moderates in Qadis were more receptive, always eager to strengthen their alliance network.



Christmas arrived and ended without anything of note happening, but a few hours into the new year, all eyes hurtled towards Paris.



On the 1st of January, 1850, Queen Julianna Roman made a historic proclamation in her capital. In response to growing nationalist movements, Julianna declared the formation of the Dual Monarchy of France-England, effectively annexing England into her empire - thus allowing her parliament to levy new taxes, recruit troops and administrate it directly.



This declaration was met with uproar all across Europe, as it was seen to be a direct contradiction of the borders set down by the Congress of Cádiz, and (more importantly) it turned France into the undisputed powerhouse of Western Europe. Even the noblemen of the Majlis protested the decision within their assembly, but when asked to comment publicly, they instead professed support for the Dual Monarchy.

No sense in making enemies of their strongest ally, after all.



The other Great Powers were not so meek. Both Morocco and Hannover had settled their internal troubles, and now felt confident enough to take the fight to this so-called "Dual Monarchy".




War was thus declared, with the official casus belli being to “uphold the rulings set down by the Congress”, but to anyone with two eyes it was clear that Morocco and Hannover were looking to cut France down to size. The only real question was simple - how far were they were willing to go?

The Dual Monarchy immediately dispatched diplomats to their allies and spherelings, including Al Andalus, requesting aid in their war. And since this was a defensive call-to-arms, the moderates had little choice but to accept, joining the fray.



And with that, fifteen years after the Congress of Cádiz, Europe is at war once again.





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V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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lol we failed to take the opportunity of the century to hobble morocco and now we've ended up in a war of their choosing, not ours

gj moderates, at least we shouldn't be be partitioned again

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

This is fine.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

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V. Illych L. posted:

lol we failed to take the opportunity of the century to hobble morocco and now we've ended up in a war of their choosing, not ours

gj moderates, at least we shouldn't be be partitioned again

No partitioning unless it's a world war

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V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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yeah exactly, plus the primary target remains frengland

at least the russians didn't join in that'd be us right hosed

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