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The Deleter
May 22, 2010
I mean the temptation to roleplay Hulk Hogan the Bear Druid or something to disrupt the session is very strong, but the thing about it is none of the stories that get posted on 4chan actually happened and also nobody is funny enough to make it actually work, so your best bet is to just get out and find a group that knows how to keep their dick in their pant.

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Moriatti
Apr 21, 2014

I mean yeah, that sounds like not a lot of fun.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
lol if your character doesn't have huge titties

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I kept having very similar problems every time I played Exalted, which really soured me unfairly on the game.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

lol if your character doesn't have huge titties

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

The Deleter posted:

I mean the temptation to roleplay Hulk Hogan the Bear Druid or something to disrupt the session is very strong, but the thing about it is none of the stories that get posted on 4chan actually happened and also nobody is funny enough to make it actually work, so your best bet is to just get out and find a group that knows how to keep their dick in their pant.

Yeah, the sorts of people that poo poo up Roll20 random games aren't going to notice people doing style parodies of them. They're just gonna turn the volume up because they think they have an audience or some competition to be the worst people at the table.

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





Wasn't there some fetish RPG where being morbidly obese gave you superpowers? Like, having a huge rear end strait up let you turn invisible or some poo poo like that?

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Haystack posted:

Wasn't there some fetish RPG where being morbidly obese gave you superpowers? Like, having a huge rear end strait up let you turn invisible or some poo poo like that?

Man someone sent me that poo poo a long time ago when I started my dumb podcast and I haven't been able to find it in forever. The sample adventure was hilariously masturbatory. Main character was like sliding around on her own secretions and turds or whatever and hid in a closet, but in the closet the DM was all "Well now you're making so much breastmilk the enemy will definitely find you unless you drink your own breastmilk as hard as you can!" Wish I could remember the name of it. Well, no, not really.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Halloween Jack posted:

I kept having very similar problems every time I played Exalted, which really soured me unfairly on the game.
Same here. I remember the last time I was about to join an Exalted game (on IRC) and was told my character "wasn't interesting enough", and when I asked for examples and was shown the other PCs, they were all just ridiculous fetish bait.

I dropped from the entire server after that.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
Exalted has the reputation that it does for a reason.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I was in a exalted academy game in RPOL like 10 years ago and one of the characters was a solar teacher who was always pregnant by magic or some poo poo and I thought it was some sort of theme on motherhood but later on I realized it was at least 50% fetish. Ooops!

LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

The Deleter posted:

I mean the temptation to roleplay Hulk Hogan the Bear Druid or something to disrupt the session is very strong, but the thing about it is none of the stories that get posted on 4chan actually happened and also nobody is funny enough to make it actually work, so your best bet is to just get out and find a group that knows how to keep their dick in their pant.

When Olivia Hill suggested that you could compact rules because people these days were watching streams and listening to Let's Plays, one response I read was, to paraphrase it, "there's a difference between how you play to entertain yourself, and how you play to entertain an audience". Those funny stories are not necessarily someone playing well, or without impolitely disrupting.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
All the Whit Wolf games are infested with people who can barely keep it in their pants. A good chunk of this is White Wolf's fault.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
The acceptance of fairly open sexuality in Exalted, plus its propensity for power fantasy, means it's seen as carte blanche for self-indulgent fetishism across the fandom. The support for mechanically dominant super-seduction is a big bonus. "Of course you find this sexy! The dice say you have to!" It's true across many of White Wolf's games, but Exalted just amplified it.

Then you have the folks who still don't quite get the that Scroll of Swallowed Darkness was an April Fool's joke (or really wish it wasn't), and... well...

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Alien Rope Burn posted:

The acceptance of fairly open sexuality in Exalted, plus its propensity for power fantasy, means it's seen as carte blanche for self-indulgent fetishism across the fandom. The support for mechanically dominant super-seduction is a big bonus. "Of course you find this sexy! The dice say you have to!" It's true across many of White Wolf's games, but Exalted just amplified it.

Then you have the folks who still don't quite get the that Scroll of Swallowed Darkness was an April Fool's joke (or really wish it wasn't), and... well...

The Scroll of Swallowed Darkness was a DTRPG Platinum best seller and there was talk of making it into a full fledged supplement if it hit a certain sales threshold. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to suggest that there was a bit of wink-and-nudge going on there.

Zurui
Apr 20, 2005
Even now...



I really should not have Googled that.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Based on my experience, it seemed like Exalted just came out at the right time to attract a portion of anime fandom and some lousy cultural conventions that came with it. Do people under 30 play Exalted and inject a lot of fetishism into it?

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Zurui posted:

I really should not have Googled that.

Very much same.

Fuuuuck. I really hope my girlfriend never checks my browser history. Not even in like a porn way ; I never want to explain that.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Exalted 1E: the roleplaying game with the greatest degree of mechanical support and rules for bestiality, or merely somewhere in the top three?

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
I mean they could have done all sorts of April Fools joke supplements, but the one that they chose to make was a bunch of sex artifacts, sex charms, and pictures of people screwing. Like, there's a point where you kind of have to accept that not only were the people in charge of the game weren't just aware of the fanbase's tendency to inject their fetishes into the game but were perfectly happy giving them a pat on the back.

quote:

As a prelude to their war against the Primordials, the Exalted sought means by which they might defeat their world-shaking foes. While members of the Night Caste were content to lurk in the shadows and watch their intended prey engaged in various disgusting acts, one Eclipse felt that the closest secrets would require her to seduce them. Some say that, in return for guzzling copious quantities of infernal juices, she discovered that no Primordial could be slain until they were tricked into making it possible by killing one of their own.

Ettin, please change the title of this thread to Copious quantities of infernal juices, thank you.

Ettin
Oct 2, 2010
Okay.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Thanks Ettin, you're the best.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Xiahou Dun posted:

Very much same.

Fuuuuck. I really hope my girlfriend never checks my browser history. Not even in like a porn way ; I never want to explain that.

"someone on a forum mentioned a thing and i wanted to know what it meant", there you go

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Halloween Jack posted:

Based on my experience, it seemed like Exalted just came out at the right time to attract a portion of anime fandom and some lousy cultural conventions that came with it. Do people under 30 play Exalted and inject a lot of fetishism into it?

The closest my group (all under-30s) has ever gotten to that stuff in Exalted is people finding characters hot, a Zenith who was understood to be extremely built and handsome and everyone was attracted to him, and characters having romantic and sexual relationships (primarily offscreen, and when not, depicted in that rom-com L-shaped-sheet way).

Broadly speaking I think it got handled in a more mature manner than the old D&D standby 'I seduce the barmaid' but sex-related stuff just didn't come up that much. And nobody's character concept was particularly sexy, except for the Zenith who was sort of incidentally sexy due to being kind of a 'dumb hunk' concept to start off. A dumb hunk with the charm that makes his Compassion virtue a pure utilitarian calculus of good for the many, not for the few.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Joe Slowboat posted:

The closest my group (all under-30s) has ever gotten to that stuff in Exalted is people finding characters hot, a Zenith who was understood to be extremely built and handsome and everyone was attracted to him, and characters having romantic and sexual relationships (primarily offscreen, and when not, depicted in that rom-com L-shaped-sheet way).

Broadly speaking I think it got handled in a more mature manner than the old D&D standby 'I seduce the barmaid' but sex-related stuff just didn't come up that much. And nobody's character concept was particularly sexy, except for the Zenith who was sort of incidentally sexy due to being kind of a 'dumb hunk' concept to start off. A dumb hunk with the charm that makes his Compassion virtue a pure utilitarian calculus of good for the many, not for the few.

Yeah, pretty sure they accidentally stumbled right into a romance novel archetype there.

Desiden
Mar 13, 2016

Mindless self indulgence is SRS BIZNS
I think Exalted's kitchen sink approach to themes has tended to mean people latch on to wildly different things. In my group, since I'm a big history goob, I was always in to the bronze age elements and the styling of exalted as Grecian-esque tragic heroes. A couple of people in our group are more into wuxia stuff, and so really gravitated towards that. I know one guy in our group who is gay did really appreciate the open sexual identity elements, since at the time it was still pretty uncommon in rpgs. While most of our group has some general experience with anime, none of us are particularly part of the "fandom" that I'm aware of, so aside from some nods here and there it was never a huge thing in our exalted games. Sex and fetishism was the same; aside from backstory or mostly offscreen character elements of characters having lovers, it didn't come up much.

Then you go online, or to a different exalted group, and the mix is completely different.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Maybe we shouldn’t be able to do whatever we want.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
Update re: my group of complete newbies + complete newbie DM posts from a few weeks ago

We are going to play Call of Cthulu! I've been reading through the rules and the quick start guide and it seems like something that isn't too crunchy and everyone is in to the setting. Going to start off with the one-shot campaign in the quick start guide and bring a few short backups in case we blow through it or they want something more in-depth. Very excited!!

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

Thom and the Heads posted:

Update re: my group of complete newbies + complete newbie DM posts from a few weeks ago

We are going to play Call of Cthulu! I've been reading through the rules and the quick start guide and it seems like something that isn't too crunchy and everyone is in to the setting. Going to start off with the one-shot campaign in the quick start guide and bring a few short backups in case we blow through it or they want something more in-depth. Very excited!!

That's great to hear. Let us know how it turns out!

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Thom and the Heads posted:

Update re: my group of complete newbies + complete newbie DM posts from a few weeks ago

We are going to play Call of Cthulu! I've been reading through the rules and the quick start guide and it seems like something that isn't too crunchy and everyone is in to the setting. Going to start off with the one-shot campaign in the quick start guide and bring a few short backups in case we blow through it or they want something more in-depth. Very excited!!

This rules. We will, however, be expecting updates!

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Pollyanna posted:

Maybe we shouldn’t be able to do whatever we want.

People can like and do the things that they want, but they should never subject other people to them without consent and should never expect other people to like these things by default.

Edit: There's definitely poo poo out there that's objectively wrong though (i.e., enjoying FATAL) and they ought to catch all the flak for it.

LuiCypher fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jul 9, 2018

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Desiden posted:

I think Exalted's kitchen sink approach to themes has tended to mean people latch on to wildly different things. In my group, since I'm a big history goob, I was always in to the bronze age elements and the styling of exalted as Grecian-esque tragic heroes. A couple of people in our group are more into wuxia stuff, and so really gravitated towards that. I know one guy in our group who is gay did really appreciate the open sexual identity elements, since at the time it was still pretty uncommon in rpgs. While most of our group has some general experience with anime, none of us are particularly part of the "fandom" that I'm aware of, so aside from some nods here and there it was never a huge thing in our exalted games. Sex and fetishism was the same; aside from backstory or mostly offscreen character elements of characters having lovers, it didn't come up much.

Then you go online, or to a different exalted group, and the mix is completely different.

To throw another example out there, my friend who got me into exalted love how over-the-top it was and focused on primordials and inferno's, Sans those first two chapters, and always wanted to do over-the-top crazy stuff with things like solar Stalin and dinosaurs pissing cocaine.

Basically, they treated it like teenagers from outer space.

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Kai Tave posted:

I mean they could have done all sorts of April Fools joke supplements, but the one that they chose to make was a bunch of sex artifacts, sex charms, and pictures of people screwing. Like, there's a point where you kind of have to accept that not only were the people in charge of the game weren't just aware of the fanbase's tendency to inject their fetishes into the game but were perfectly happy giving them a pat on the back.

It was a whole 16 pages of lame sex jokes and old porn that Exalted Artist Melissa Uran put online years before the thing actually came out, sold for a dollar, and sold almost a decade ago. The fact that at least a couple of people looked at this thing, and decided to treat it as if it were absolutely serious, and was also totally an indication of how the game was straight up fetish porn on par with FATAL is pretty impressive and also pretty disingenuous.

But then, whenever discussions about WoD starts online or IRL I just go on lengthy rants about Beast and how Matt McFarland raped a kid, and how you can largely treat that as representative of Demon or Vampire as well as the people who enjoy them, so I'm just going to chuck this stone straight through this glass house here and say that doing this poo poo is actually extremely good, and cool.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Oh here we go

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Plutonis posted:

Oh here we go

I don't really see it as a bad thing to poo poo on something a little unfairly; it's fun, and fairly cathartic too.

Bedlamdan fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jul 9, 2018

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Bedlamdan posted:

I don't really see it as a bad thing to poo poo on something a little unfairly; it's fun, and fairly cathartic too.

Agreed. You can like cat-piss things unironically, but you shouldn't be surprised/offended when everyone tells you that it's cat-piss.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
It's really boring when everyone in the room agrees with you though - it's the difference between an interesting conversation and lighting applause lights.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Hey this is new information to me, so it's not like the effort is wasted.

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It's really boring when everyone in the room agrees with you though - it's the difference between an interesting conversation and lighting applause lights.

Well it depends if other people in the room are able to tolerate being disagreed with though, going from a spectrum from applause lights <------> interesting conversation <------> ad-hominem laden tire-fire.

I wouldn't really feel safe or comfortable ragging on things a sufficiently large group of dorks here or elsewhere might be fond of, or speaking out in favor of something they hate, that never goes anywhere good and it's really less of a headache to simply be quiet.

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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Bedlamdan posted:

Well it depends if other people in the room are able to tolerate being disagreed with though, going from a spectrum from applause lights <------> interesting conversation <------> ad-hominem laden tire-fire.

I wouldn't really feel safe or comfortable ragging on things a sufficiently large group of dorks here or elsewhere might be fond of, or speaking out in favor of something they hate, that never goes anywhere good and it's really less of a headache to simply be quiet.

fuckin start being quiet then, you never have in your life before

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