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Spoeank posted:The more I think about it the more Jimmy Graham's 5th round ADP is............... worrisome. Either Gronk or Kelce or I wait for Reed.
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Graham has been relatively consistent for fantasy right? 10tds and like 300yds or 16tds and 1000? Pretty decent floor. Can understand why he is getting taken where he is. Ninja edit: 2015 was bad I see. Thought it was more in line with the others. 11 games tho.
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Jul 9, 2018 01:48
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Spermy Smurf posted:Graham has been relatively consistent for fantasy right? Also new offense that historically doesn't use the TE much, not that they have had someone of Graham's caliber.
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Jul 9, 2018 01:55
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2018 Jimmy Graham is going to be extraordinarily touchdown or bust, given that the Packers have a metric crap ton of offensive weapons and that Graham's best talent is shoving players away at the last second for touchdowns at this point. He has just 6 games over 75 receiving yards over the last 3 seasons. He had none last year, and he had as many games above 50 receiving yards (5) as he had below 10. The 6 games over 75 yards is matched or topped by guys like Gary Barnidge, Eric Ebron and Delanie Walker. He's touchdown or bust at this point and he's going ahead of  edit: and this doesn't get into how the aaron packers have supported three viable receiving options like once Spoeank fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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Jul 9, 2018 02:19
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Spoeank posted:2018 Jimmy Graham is going to be extraordinarily touchdown or bust, given that the Packers have a metric crap ton of offensive weapons Minus one Nelson. That's why I think he will get used. Edit: looking at that pic; yeah I can see half a dozen I pick, but if Graham is sitting all alone at tier2 and tier3 being way below him then it's not a ridiculous pick imo.
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Jul 9, 2018 02:24
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Hey. Fuckers. BeerSheets. Help us break stuff.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:34
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Spermy Smurf posted:Minus one Nelson. He's all touchdowns baby. Minus one Nelson is inconsequential because so was Jordy Nelson last year. This is the third straight season we are trying to talk ourselves into a GB Tight End because Richard Rodgers caught a 61-yard hail mary TD that made him a top-ten TE on the season and Jermichael Finley was good 7 seasons ago. Spoeank fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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Jul 9, 2018 05:08
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Spoeank posted:edit: and this doesn't get into how the aaron packers have supported three viable receiving options like once 
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Jul 9, 2018 07:13
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I will renew the Goon Money League and make a thread tonight. I am behind schedule this year. Perhaps still basking in the afterglow of my incredible championship.
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Jul 9, 2018 17:03
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Tyreek Hill at 33 and Sammy Watkins at 6. Let me tell you how mini camp and practices have been going: Sammy is the #1.
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Jul 9, 2018 19:13
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#1 on the IR
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Jul 9, 2018 19:21
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Worth 6 bucks!
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Jul 9, 2018 19:38
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Hill is one of my big avoids at his current ADP/auction price this year.
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Jul 9, 2018 19:58
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Ah, I see we're on Year 8 of convincing ourselves that Aaron Rodgers gives a poo poo about throwing to TEs
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Jul 9, 2018 20:07
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Alfalfa posted:Hill is one of my big avoids at his current ADP/auction price this year. I only want kelce and hunt on that offense.
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Jul 9, 2018 20:20
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Benne posted:Ah, I see we're on Year 8 of convincing ourselves that Aaron Rodgers gives a poo poo about throwing to TEs Jermichael Finley was good that one time during Obama's first term man. You gotta believe.
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Jul 9, 2018 20:37
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Is there any chance this Bubba Franks data I've been working through is worth anything here?
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Jul 9, 2018 20:52
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Spoeank posted:Jermichael Finley was good that one time during Obama's first term man. You gotta believe. That's also the last TE they had that was worth throwing to
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Jul 9, 2018 21:21
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Azhais posted:That's also the last TE they had that was worth throwing to Pretend I took the time to go back and find the posts hyping up Martellus Bennet last year and Jared Cook the year before.
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Jul 9, 2018 21:30
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Im so old that I had a team with a Favre/Bubba Franks stack.
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Jul 9, 2018 22:11
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sourdough posted:Pretend I took the time to go back and find the posts hyping up Martellus Bennet last year and Jared Cook the year before. yeah, but Rodgers was dead last year, and I never thought much of Cook
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Jul 9, 2018 22:57
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Jimmy Graham led the position in touchdowns by 2 (because he was Seattle's de facto goal line back), somehow got so few yards along the way that he managed to only be the fifth-ranked player in 2017, is going to a new offense with infinitely more weapons (including three diverse RBs), and somehow went up by one in ADP. I will give like 1,000:1 odds someone said the thing about Jermichael Finley vis a vis marty bennett last season too
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Jul 9, 2018 23:10
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Azhais posted:yeah, but Rodgers was dead last year, and I never thought much of Cook Oh I know, I think what I posted was too ambiguous. Totally agreed on GB having junk at TE for a long time now, but that doesn't stop people from hyping up the latest mediocre dude to land there for some reason.
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Jul 9, 2018 23:19
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I also think we're overestimating how many targets Rodgers is gonna give Jimmy once he realizes that he has like a 2-inch catch radius (Not trying to flowchart him or anything but it was kinda shocking how little he plays to his size)
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Jul 9, 2018 23:39
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The whole TE tier and auction values are totally flipped. Ebron should be over Doyle, ASJ and Burton should be higher, and who knows what Kittle is going to do. But yes. Graham is TD or bust and it’s not the weaponless Seahawks this year. Who has more TD’s? Rodgers rushing or Graham? That’s the better question.
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Jul 10, 2018 02:43
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coronaball posted:I will renew the Goon Money League and make a thread tonight. I am behind schedule this year. Perhaps still basking in the afterglow of my incredible championship. As promised: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862770&pagenumber=1#lastpost Feel free to join the waitlist, we usually turnover 3-4 teams each year!
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Jul 10, 2018 04:26
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Lesean McCoy might have abused his girlfriend to an extent that it kills his career. The photos associated with the allegation are graphic.
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(Whispers) Watch for DeMarco Murray to Buffalo
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Jul 10, 2018 17:09
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He says he hasn't seen the people involved in the image and twit in months. 
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Jul 10, 2018 17:42
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Spermy Smurf posted:He says he hasn't seen the people involved in the image and twit in months. Yeah, but how old are the pictures?
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Jul 10, 2018 17:46
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So, I guess I'm keeping Chris Ivory this year...
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Jul 10, 2018 17:53
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Lesean McCoy might have abused his girlfriend to an extent that it kills his career. The photos associated with the allegation are graphic. edit gently caress just saw the photo removing my snarkiness
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Jul 10, 2018 17:58
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Sataere posted:Yeah, but how old are the pictures? Dunno. It's not like this is the first or even third time Shady has been in the news for some kind of fight or domestic assault.
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Jul 10, 2018 18:02
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I was gonna make a joke about marijuana usage or anthem kneeling towards making a point about messed up priorities but I'm finding myself unproportionately angry about beating a dog until it has kidney failure. Flay him.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:59
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Re: Jimmy Graham discussion, Brandon Lee made a good point on the fantasypros podcast today Why are we assuming that Aaron Rodgers is going to go away from the number one touchdown scoring wide receiver over the last two seasons?
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Jul 10, 2018 20:45
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Because now he has another redzone threat where before he had nothing else?
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Jul 10, 2018 20:56
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Correct he has a full season of Jamaal Williams to fall back on as well. JG's main skill now is winning 50/50 balls. Rodgers would not be throwing 50/50 balls to make him the de facto run game like Seattle did
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Jul 10, 2018 21:00
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Anyone who wants to follow along with my SFB draft, I am in the Animated - Peter Griffin league. http://fantasyinsiders.com/scott-fish-bowl
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Spoeank posted:Re: Jimmy Graham discussion, Brandon Lee made a good point on the fantasypros podcast today This stat feels a bit off. The player to whom Aaron Rodgers has thrown the most TDs for each of those two years is no longer on the Packers. Rodgers thrown TDs over the last two seasons, over 22 games: Nelson: 20 Adams: 17 Why are we assuming that his #2 TD target over that time is getting all of that volume? Beyond that, we're expecting something like 0.9 TDs/game to be available. If JG gets 8 TDs (~50% of that volume), isn't he still going to be a valuable TE? Zauper fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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It seems unlikely that Rodgers will suddenly decide to start throwing to his TE. Combined, the Packers TEs caught 30 balls last year. Neither one caught more than the WR4 or the top 2 pass catching RBs, one of whom didn't play half the season.
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