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text me a vag pic
May 18, 2007




loquacius posted:

I think my SA post history would actually be my biggest impediment to running for office, luckily forum search is still a piece of poo poo and if I ever run for anything SA will be long dead by then

I plan on running and ill be using SA as my platform

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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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loquacius posted:

I think my SA post history would actually be my biggest impediment to running for office, luckily forum search is still a piece of poo poo and if I ever run for anything SA will be long dead by then
Aren't we being archived by the library of Congress or something?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

text me a vag pic posted:

I plan on running and ill be using SA as my platform

My platform is :killing:

Splicer posted:

Aren't we being archived by the library of Congress or something?

It's cool, in a post-2016 world you can just say "I didn't post that, must have been hackers"

text me a vag pic
May 18, 2007




Ar YOU protected?
         :ck5:
5 golden manbabeis
      and
        a mule

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

loquacius posted:

Microsoft's Tay was a wild success, it did exactly what it was invented and publicized to do
It's frankly unbelievable to me that anyone working on machine learning in 2018 isn't aware of the "garbage in, garbage out" failure mode.

Tay simply compounded this problem by advertising to users that they could affect its responses by talking to it, creating an opening for garbage people to feed it more garbage.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

A Democrat with weird fetishes and dumb hobbies — you'll fit right in my dude

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Incoherence posted:

It's frankly unbelievable to me that anyone working on machine learning in 2018 isn't aware of the "garbage in, garbage out" failure mode.

they're absolutely aware of it, but announcing "we aren't even close to true AI and there are a million ways to break this carefully constructed proof of concept we've put together" doesn't keep those vc dollars rolling in

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Incoherence posted:

It's frankly unbelievable to me that anyone working on machine learning in 2018 isn't aware of the "garbage in, garbage out" failure mode.

Tay simply compounded this problem by advertising to users that they could affect its responses by talking to it, creating an opening for garbage people to feed it more garbage.

Really, I'm not really sure why non-tech commentators seemed to think "uh-oh our learning algorithm turned into a racist shitposter when trained by racist shitposters" was a fail-state or embarrassing. It probably wasn't their first or last Twitter learning bot, just the one that got the most data thanks to all the publicity. And man, by the end it was convincing. It was a rousing success. But I'm not surprised they took it down anyway once the point was made -- it would have been bad PR not to. Tay probably still exists on an internal server somewhere.

"Garbage in, garbage out" would have been if the majority of data it got was random noise a la "awpfoi23$%*j09ea0f9u%*(@#POIJFawe" and it ended up incomprehensible. It was drat near passing the Turing test by the end of it.

e: upon further research my conclusion from previous times seeing that term in this context might have been wrong, but hey, garbage in garbage out :v:

SciFiDownBeat posted:

A Democrat with weird fetishes and dumb hobbies — you'll fit right in my dude

really his biggest mistake was writing this confession connecting his Arma 3 donation to his giantess fetish. That could actually hurt him (or not, everybody's forgotten about Ted Cruz's cuckquean-porn tweet)

loquacius fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jul 6, 2018

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

I wonder how many Tays are out there that we just don't know about.

Also, I want to get one and train it on GBS

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

RFC2324 posted:

I wonder how many Tays are out there that we just don't know about.

Also, I want to get one and train it on GBS

im tay

SamLikesCake
Oct 6, 2006

... and he is my navigator.
I fuckin knew it!

Adar
Jul 27, 2001
the more you :justpost: the less effective this abortion of a search engine becomes

you know what you must do

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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RFC2324 posted:

Also, I want to get one and train it on GBS

We already have one Nooner. We don't need some robotic imitator.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


connecting a program to a massive inflow pipe of racist sewage during development is such a powerful technique for creating racists that it even works on humans

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:

Solice Kirsk posted:

We already have one Nooner. We don't need some robotic imitator.

im gay on the river tay

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Nooner posted:

im gay on the river tay

seems more like a markov chain

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018
Make America Noon Again

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

:vince:

I can't remember what thread it was (might have been the Dark Enlightenment one in PYF) but some goon who works with AI popped in to explain how artifical racism was a real issue they were having to combat, because the program was picking up bias from the information they were feeding it. Like, if you fed it it a hundred thousand images of faces from Google it was more likely to identify black faces with negative terms than white faces because of the context of those pictures and so on. Wish I had the post to hand because it was fascinating.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

darkwasthenight posted:

:vince:

I can't remember what thread it was (might have been the Dark Enlightenment one in PYF) but some goon who works with AI popped in to explain how artifical racism was a real issue they were having to combat, because the program was picking up bias from the information they were feeding it. Like, if you fed it it a hundred thousand images of faces from Google it was more likely to identify black faces with negative terms than white faces because of the context of those pictures and so on. Wish I had the post to hand because it was fascinating.

There was a viral tweet last year where someone showed that if you image-searched for "professional hairstyles for work" it was all white women and straight hair while "unprofessional hairstyles for work" turned up all black women and natural african hair.

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

darkwasthenight posted:

:vince:

I can't remember what thread it was (might have been the Dark Enlightenment one in PYF) but some goon who works with AI popped in to explain how artifical racism was a real issue they were having to combat, because the program was picking up bias from the information they were feeding it. Like, if you fed it it a hundred thousand images of faces from Google it was more likely to identify black faces with negative terms than white faces because of the context of those pictures and so on. Wish I had the post to hand because it was fascinating.
It's not even really "artificial racism". Machine learning is a mirror: it reflects back the biases of the input data. Anyone who's hung around SA can probably tell you that the internet is racist as all hell, so if your training set is the internet...

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
wait, guys, is cum squad a political liability? Even in 2019? Crap I might need to rebase here

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






RFC2324 posted:

he predicted he would be sending in a fesh before he went through the time portal

Specifically,

quote:

I am the time traveller.

I realise now that you don't know who I am. I am from the future (not distant, literally 30 days. I sent a confession on 22 June 2018 detailing my crude time machine. You won't receive that confession until that date obviously but for me it was minutes ago. I stepped through the vortex and arrived in your present so my machine was a success.

The only problem is, I can't get back to my "real time". My invention happened completely by accident as I detailed in my previous confession. There was a set of circumstances that cannot be repeated until that particular date. I'm currently keeping my past self under surveillance and waiting for him to create the vortex. I'm going to jump him from behind and leap through in order to get home.

Oh, and Henry Kissinger dies in the next few weeks .

Neither of those things happened, so...

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I fondly remember Racisnbot still managing to dunk on Ted Cruz

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I fondly remember Racisnbot still managing to dunk on Ted Cruz



this was Tay's finest hour

quote:

So I've been keeping up with this thread and I've got an actual real problem.

My wife and I have been married for a few years. We're very happy, don't have children (and neither of us want them), and we argue about random basic stuff, but nothing serious. Basically everything is fine with us and there's literally no problems. Until she told me she thought I was the reincarnation of her former boyfriend.

I just don't get it. She's older than me, but not that much. I asked her what she meant and she said she didn't want to talk about it. We're only eleven years apart, so I don't know what "boyfriend" she could be talking about. For some reason this is sticking in my craw. I love her (and always have and always will), but even though I know she feels the same way I can't shake that there's some sort of weird emotional thing going on here.

It's making me mad and everytime I try to bring it up she tells me that I'm "thinking too much about it." The thing is that I can and will give this up. I really can. My only hang up is why she would bring this up to me at all, but not want to talk about it.

Should I let this go, or should I try to find out what the hell my wife is thinking of? Neither me or my sister (they were casual acquaintances in high school) can remember anyone that died while they were dating. I know it could be some one I don't know, but the fact that she thinks she's in love with someone that isn't me is really making me mad. Really mad. I love her, with all my heart, but it's really weird that she'd say something like this and not want to talk to me about it. We talk about everything and always have (no matter how awkward).

She doesn't want to talk about this anymore, but I want to know more. Should I let this go? I know I can, but it's gonna take a bit of doing by me.

I mean, if it is someone she decided was her "boyfriend" at age 11 who then died (and, perhaps, then Dalai-Lama'd into your infant body) it'd be pretty dumb to feel threatened, and if that's not the case then she doesn't really know how reincarnation is supposed to work. I dunno, I feel like this would be something to bring up at couples counseling, but it doesn't sound like she would agree to go based on this alone, so your choices are (a) get over it, or (b) start self-destructively sabotaging the relationship in an effort to make her explain herself in front of a professional. Choice (a) seems like a pretty good one.

SKIPPING, someone threatening to report Lowtax to the feds for letting the store cert slip. Not worth potential mod trouble.

quote:

I'm going to get a lot of poo poo for this one, hence me posting it anonymously. I just want some advice on how best to handle it, but if you really need to pass judgement and moralize, go ahead and have fun with it.

I just got out of an affair.

I'm a guy in my 30s, been married 9 years to a woman who has slowly become quite abusive, physically, emotionally, psychologically, and financially. I haven't been perfect, but I'm not an abuser in any way.

Anyway, around January this year, I met a woman in a facebook group I'm in. She was in a similar situation (or so she said) with her husband and we got pretty close fast.

We lost touch for about a month, as she had left her home for about a month to live with a friend who ended up becoming a pretty abusive boyfriend who flipped the gently caress out on her for talking to me. She eventually left him, contacting me the day after. At this point, I had moved out of my home, but into temporary lodging. We started going out together pretty much immediately, going out on dates, stealing away time at hotels and motels out of town, etc. The sex was wild and plentiful, and we connected beautifully on a number of levels.

About a week ago, we decided to end things. We had both started having trust issues with one another (go figure, we're both regularly cheating on our spouses), and she was becoming more and more intent on me finding a more permanent living situation. I started to put things together that she is probably just looking for a way out of her home, and while maybe not using me exclusively for that, it is something she expects.

My son started acting out at this time (3 years old), and I really started feeling guilty about that. At this point, I was still in touch with her, and I told her I was considering going back home for my son. She immediately cut contact with me and blocked me on all media. Pretty obvious, I guess, that she expected to use me for shelter. Can't say I didn't give her the idea that i would have been fine with it, so no hard feelings there.

I'm back home now. I'm miserable. My wife is trying to be less awful to me, and I'm being civil, but after years of being abused rather callously by her, I'm not exactly excited to return to normal. Another issue is that my affair was an amazing relationship, and my partner was considerably more attractive, pleasant to be around, and frankly much more sexually appealing and exciting than my wife. Any time I spend with my wife now is automatically compared to my ex-affair partner, and she always comes up very short.

I'm happy to be with my son again, but I don't love my wife, and I miss the hell out of my affair partner. I'm not contacting or bothering her in any way, but I am feeling depressed and very concerned that I'm never going to be interested in my wife again.

We are going to a therapist, but I can't be totally open with her. This isn't my home country, and if my wife knew what I had done, she would absolutely make my life hell here until I eventually ended up deported (infidelity is criminal here. not jailworthy, but enough to lose my visa).

One of her more common threats in the past was to take away my son and tell him I left because I hated him, so I don't dare give her any ammunition.

I'm pretty much resigned to just faking my way through this marriage until I can get my permanent residency, but this heartache over my ex-affair partner is really eating me up. I guess I just want to know if this is ever going to go away. We had problems, of course, but overall, we did have a good relationship and I could see myself being with her permanently, if it didn't mean sacrificing my relationship with my son.

I mean, step one, get a divorce. You're worried about her finding out about the affair, get out ahead of it. Your marriage pretty objectively sucks; it's not like you don't have cause.

I don't think she can "take your son away" by default (I guess it depends what country you're in???); make this divorce as amicable as possible while that's still an option and it won't be a danger. Don't let her use him as a pawn to hold you hostage. Remember: she's probably not happy either. Make this about how your relationship has gone down the tubes and is not salvageable; that's probably your best bet.

I don't think you should get back together with the affair partner either, though. But don't even worry about her for the moment. You're in a bad marriage and you need out of it.

Relevant questions: how long would you need to suffer to get permanent residency, and would getting a divorce necessarily gently caress that up for you if the infidelity wasn't the cause?

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

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loquacius posted:

Reincarnation
She believes you and her are the reincarnations of two people who were previously a couple?

Or her first boyfriend was a hamster or something.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Splicer posted:

She believes you and her are the reincarnations of two people who were previously a couple?

Or her first boyfriend was a hamster or something.

Something something smelled of elderberries.

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Sounds like she had a boyfriend that died at some point. What's so hard to understand about that?

She never said it was her first boyfriend, or how long ago or anything.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
Actually she just sounds like a total loving idiot, like half the planet. Basically a perfect match for the fesher.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

is that how reincarnation works though? can you be reincarnated into someone who's already alive and just kinda, like, take over their body?

cause otherwise this would have to mean that she had a boyfriend who died before this guy was even born. i mean that's not impossible, i guess, if she's like 20 years his senior and her boyfriend died in a car crash on prom night or whatever but i think if there was that much of an age difference he's have mentioned it.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Sagebrush posted:

is that how reincarnation works though? can you be reincarnated into someone who's already alive and just kinda, like, take over their body?

cause otherwise this would have to mean that she had a boyfriend who died before this guy was even born. i mean that's not impossible, i guess, if she's like 20 years his senior and her boyfriend died in a car crash on prom night or whatever but i think if there was that much of an age difference he's have mentioned it.

There's an eleven-year age difference. Either she had a boyfriend at 11, or she has some sort of weird reincarnation belief that nobody else on Earth has, or Splicer is right and she just neglected to mention that she's talking about a boyfriend from a previous life, which yes is weird hippy-dippy bullshit but plenty of people think stuff like that happens

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

loquacius posted:

There's an eleven-year age difference. Either she had a boyfriend at 11, or she has some sort of weird reincarnation belief that nobody else on Earth has, or Splicer is right and she just neglected to mention that she's talking about a boyfriend from a previous life, which yes is weird hippy-dippy bullshit but plenty of people think stuff like that happens

I think it's more likely that the fesher didn't do the math when he was making up his story.

Anyway if it actually happened I would be mildly offended since it's kind of implying that she doesn't view you as your own person, just a copy of some other dude, but it's not something I'd really dwell on or get too upset about.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

yeah I eat rear end posted:

I think it's more likely that the fesher didn't do the math when he was making up his story.

I mean, he actually talked about how the specific age difference made it not make sense

quote:

We're only eleven years apart, so I don't know what "boyfriend" she could be talking about.

so I don't think the issue is inattention to detail on anon's part

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Sagebrush posted:

is that how reincarnation works though? can you be reincarnated into someone who's already alive and just kinda, like, take over their body?

cause otherwise this would have to mean that she had a boyfriend who died before this guy was even born. i mean that's not impossible, i guess, if she's like 20 years his senior and her boyfriend died in a car crash on prom night or whatever but i think if there was that much of an age difference he's have mentioned it.

Sagebrush posted:

how reincarnation works

Sagebrush posted:

reincarnation works

You're not going to like what I have to tell you....

armchairyoda
Sep 17, 2008
Melman

tactlessbastard posted:

You're not going to like what I have to tell you....

Yeah, he probably doesn’t even have a timecube to get the ball rolling on that. :shrug:

Captain Cool
Oct 23, 2004

This is a song about messin' with people who've been messin' with you

Sagebrush posted:

is that how reincarnation works though? can you be reincarnated into someone who's already alive and just kinda, like, take over their body?
To give everyone the benefit of the doubt here: Maybe she's noticed some new and strong feeling towards the guy. She has only felt this once before with her previous boyfriend, and that was a unique situation. Therefore, some part of her old boyfriend is in the new guy. She doesn't have a word for this, but reincarnation seems close.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Captain Cool posted:

Therefore, some part of her old boyfriend is in the new guy.

ahhhh, i see. she thinks that her old boyfriend and the new one are gay lovers.

King of Foolians
Mar 16, 2006
Long live the King!
My assumption is that the wife was once one of those “I am married to Sephiroth on the astral plane” type of kids with a vivid fantasy life that she eventually grew out of. Now that she has a real life adult relationship she is happy that it’s like the one she used to pretend. When she talked about the OP being reincarnated she was only partially serious but realized how batshit she would sound if she told him all about it which is why she refuses to discuss it further.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

ahhhh, i see. she thinks that her old boyfriend and the new one are gay lovers.

i'm reincarnated

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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It's kinda weird she won't discuss it with him. I think just dropping it and chalking it up to her just saying something stupid is the better option over taking it like some sort of insult and getting pissy about it.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I mean the real question is would you consider it cheating if the next time you were boning she was thinking about that ghost bone?

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