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Cojawfee posted:I think a lot of linux nerds are the kind of people who use older hardware anyway since you don't need a beast of a machine to run linux. So when they go to install, everything just works because it's been in the wild so long that someone has made drivers for all their hardware. So someone with a gaming PC wants to check it out and they can't even get USB ports to work because their motherboard is brand new and endless nerds say "I dunno, works just fine on my 486." Linux distributions nowadays specifically keep breaking stuff that used to work and developers respond to bug reports with "who cares I don't have that hardware fix it yourself lol you idiot you piece of poo poo you absolute moron". e: In the late nineties you could install a nice Linux distro with a nice GUI and everything just worked. Nowadays you, about 100% of the time, can't.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:34
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lol G*d help you if you want to use more than one screen on Linux. It will laugh at you. It's a server OS folks, move a long
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Jerry Cotton posted:The worst isn't even that it never works, it's when you complain and 40 000 smelly shits on the Internet immediately pop out for the old "IT WORKS FOR ME" song and dance. You're probably using the wrong distribution. And the wrong sound card. And the wrong keyboard type  Cojawfee posted:The real fun in Linux is when you have a newer video card. I had to go into my BIOS to enable the onboard video so I could boot into linux, then install an nvidia driver, and then swap the HDMI back to the video card and hope it worked. If it didn't work you could have SSHed in or logged in on the serial console you enabled prior to doing this
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Buttcoin purse posted:And the wrong sound card. A what now  e: Oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck 
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Jul 9, 2018 04:27
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Audio only works if you use a dvorak keyboard.
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Jul 9, 2018 04:28
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smdh if u can't fix your LILO config with a hex editor when it breaks because the one constant of boot loaders is that they gently caress up especially when you decide to update arch on a macbook without checking the arch site for permission first
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And here I sit, with Linux Mint as my distro of choice, where everything Just Works for the average user. I used to do the whole barebones, compile-my-own kernel song and dance, but I just can't be bothered anymore. I pop Mint on a USB stick, boot from it, run the super simple setup wizard and 20 minutes later *bang* I've got a functional desktop where everything works.
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Jul 9, 2018 09:52
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KozmoNaut posted:And here I sit, with Linux Mint as my distro of choice, where everything Just Works for the average user. I too went from Gentoo to Mint
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Not Operator posted:I too went from Gentoo to Mint
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Jul 9, 2018 11:11
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Cojawfee posted:Audio only works if you use a dvorak keyboard. Nobody has ever used a dvorak keyboard to write anything except 10,000 word blog posts about how they use a dvorak keyboard
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Jul 9, 2018 11:46
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Sweevo posted:Nobody has ever used a dvorak keyboard to write anything except 10,000 word blog posts about how they use a dvorak keyboard Similar to ham radio which is only used to communicate with other people about ham radio
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Not Operator posted:I too went from Gentoo to Mint SuSE -> Mandrake -> Debian -> Gentoo -> Arch -> Mint, actually  I originally installed Linux because Windows XP wouldn't work on my PC, due to missing drivers. KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 13:51 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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KozmoNaut posted:And here I sit, with Linux Mint as my distro of choice, where everything Just Works for the average user. Same. Been running mint and now Ubuntu 18 with various Nvidia cards (currently GTX 1080 Ti and GTX 1070) plus onboard graphics for three years now for CUDA development without any issues, ever. Multiple screens work great, though I'm now using a single 32 inch 4k. It doesn't matter what hardware I throw at it. I hook up various software defined radios to it occasionally. Always works and it stays up for weeks until the cat pulls the plug out of the outlet again. I even play games daily via Steam while both cards are crunching CUDA stuff. What is problem? . I legit thought those problems were gone with modern major distros.
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spog posted:Similar to ham radio which is only used to communicate with other people about ham radio That's the main thing that keeps me out of ham radio. I think the technology is quite interesting, but the end purpose of it seems pointless to me because you can't broadcast and you can't even transmit music.
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TotalLossBrain posted:onboard graphics To be fair, I do have to manually add an X.org config setting for the Intel integrated graphics in my laptop and media PC, otherwise they have really annoying diagonal tearing when playing back videos. I blame Intel for that, though.
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Not Operator posted:I too went from Gentoo to Mint I tried installing Gentoo about fifteen years ago. I'll tell you what I think of it as soon as it's done compiling. 
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:That's the main thing that keeps me out of ham radio. I think the technology is quite interesting, but the end purpose of it seems pointless to me because you can't broadcast and you can't even transmit music. Consider giving SDRs a try. They can be had pretty cheap ($25?), are extremely versatile, and you get a lot of cool and interesting traffic. You can still listen/transmit to/in the ham band (tx is licensed, of course). You can download live pictures from NOAA weather satellites or even receive data from vehicles in orbit around the moon. TotalLossBrain has a new favorite as of 17:22 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:That's the main thing that keeps me out of ham radio. I think the technology is quite interesting, but the end purpose of it seems pointless to me because you can't broadcast and you can't even transmit music.
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It was fun installing Arch on my laptop as a project but not as something I would consider remotely usable given that switching between an integrated and dedicated GPU is considered fancy-pants new technology
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I credit Linux for a lot, but once I tried a live distro of Mint on my main PC that worked super great, but which, once installed to disk and updated, a lot of real basic support for stuff like wireless and power management kinda shrugged and went "we'll act like this is all generic null hardware, lol." Like, the installer used the wireless to update while installing, then ceased working once installed and updated. Baffling. I'll eventually make the switch, but I'm not looking forward to the minefield of configuration drama to get everything working right, and again every time I add a new piece of hardware. I guess that's the price of not wanting a store, advertising platform, and surveillance system installed with my OS. Remember when it was annoying when MS would staple-gun a crappy internet browser to the file system?
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There's really no need to switch. It is never going to be the year of the Linux desktop. It will never happen. Just leave Linux to servers and weird devices like the raspberry pi.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Consider giving SDRs a try. They can be had pretty cheap ($25?), are extremely versatile, and you get a lot of cool and interesting traffic. You can still listen/transmit to/in the ham band (tx is licensed, of course). I've got an SDR setup for ADSB with Flightaware. Wouldn't mind getting another fired up for NOAA live telemetry.
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What is a good SDR that can tune the entire spectrum you’d want to tune and also is not insanely expensive? I have an NESDR but it has some blind spots.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:What is a good SDR that can tune the entire spectrum you’d want to tune and also is not insanely expensive? I have an NESDR but it has some blind spots. I'm assuming by "entire spectrum" you mean below the range of the rtlsdr tuners, in which case the cheapest option without piss poor performance is to buy an upconverter, which will perform entirely adequately given you don't have any FM radio stations in your back yard. You can tune there without buying anything if you use a modified driver that enables direct sampling but there is going to be tons of spurious mixing products and aliasing because the dongle was never made with HF reception in mind. There really aren't any super cheap all in one devices that do dc to ghz well, the closest thing is the sdrplay RSP1A which does everything to 2ghz for about 100 dollars, but if you want more than what it offers the cost goes up exponentially
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I've always wanted the HackRF but drat it's pricey and don't think I'll ever use have it's features: https://greatscottgadgets.com/hackrf/ Alternatively for fun I was thinking of getting one of these kits that enable direct sampling (Aus eBay link but you can find them on Aliexpress too): https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Full-Ba...5.c100005.m1851
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I wonder if Jerry Garcia dying had any effect on the cassette industry
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:That's the main thing that keeps me out of ham radio. I think the technology is quite interesting, but the end purpose of it seems pointless to me because you can't broadcast and you can't even transmit music. I was kind of interested because then you could run KA9Q NOS to send data to people a long way away but then I would have had to actually buy equipment. Running a program in DOS which could multi-task and do TCP/IP and run servers and clients all at once seemed pretty amazing though. That page says: quote:KA9Q NOS was only the second known implementation of the Internet protocols for low-end computers; the first was MIT's PC/IP
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Humphreys posted:I've always wanted the HackRF but drat it's pricey and don't think I'll ever use have it's features: I have the HackRF and it's nice, but it needs a TCXO (thermally stable oscillator) if you want to do precision tuning in the GHz range or um, say, spoof GPS and other GNSS. I also use a couple of Ettus B210 USRP models that are very nice but spendy (~$1,200?) but they don't do anything exceptionally better than the HackRF. And the TCXOs you can buy from Ettus are a LOT more expensive, around $600-$1200 vs the $15 I paid for the HackRF component on eBay. We've got a prototype sitting around with 6 GHz instantaneous bandwidth  , but I haven't gotten to play with that yet. The more expensive stuff is typically used for precise multi-band transmission and radar applications.A dongle SDR for under $50 is enough for most anybody.
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KozmoNaut posted:SuSE -> Mandrake -> Debian -> Gentoo -> Arch -> Mint, actually But originally I've always had at least one desktop running linux ever since I went to uni in 2000 redhat (university standard for c+ ), to debian (more standard for plugging away learning OS at home) -> ubuntu -> mint. Currently my main desktop PC is windows as the first boot option, but after I took up the free upgrade offer to win10 it stopped working properly due to my old hardware like mobo and the ATI 5700 gpu. Also I moved house into a room with no ethernet so I went wireless and windows sucked with my wifi. I had to boot into mint and tether my mobile phone to search for solutions like newer windows drivers to save or linux solutions to apply. I ended up getting a pcie card with antenna that works well in mint as well as windows after I downgraded win10 back to win7 (and even mint doesn't like my old video card these days). I did keep old soundblaster cards back in the athlon cpu days so sound would work in linux.  E: I guess what I'm saying is hardware problems exist for both windows and linux these days, some poo poo just works in windows, but some poo poo just works in a good distro like mint - enough that I like having both available. I'm a flippy flopper flipflop. Fo3 has a new favorite as of 16:04 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Dairy Days posted:I'm assuming by "entire spectrum" you mean below the range of the rtlsdr tuners, in which case the cheapest option without piss poor performance is to buy an upconverter, which will perform entirely adequately given you don't have any FM radio stations in your back yard. You can tune there without buying anything if you use a modified driver that enables direct sampling but there is going to be tons of spurious mixing products and aliasing because the dongle was never made with HF reception in mind. There really aren't any super cheap all in one devices that do dc to ghz well, the closest thing is the sdrplay RSP1A which does everything to 2ghz for about 100 dollars, but if you want more than what it offers the cost goes up exponentially Yep, I'll stick with my NESDR
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Arms_Akimbo posted:I wonder if Jerry Garcia dying had any effect on the cassette industry Probably actually yeah. A lot of prosumer level of high end equipment was huge among Deadheads because they'd use it to bootleg the concerts. Like, they'd have an entire section just for people to record the show and there'd be dozens of guys there, and really prior to the introduction of like Minidisc cassette was king.
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ishikabibble posted:Probably actually yeah.
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I remember still trading tapes up until at least 2000. What killed it for me was getting a decent internet connection and finding websites with whole shows, originally in real media format but shortly after in MP3. Even then, at first I still recorded those real media shows to cassette for the people I used to swap tapes with, but that eventually faded off as MP3 and CD burners became commonplace. I think I still have a ZIP disk with a couple dozen Grateful Dead .rm files from back in the day. But yeah, as far as recording, MiniDisc definitely became the preferred format during that time period.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:They actually set up bridges for the tapers? I thought they just brought their own mics. It changed a lot over the years. Early on, tapers would be able to barter for an output from the soundboard, so they didn't need mics, just recording equipment. Eventually that went away and people would bring their rigs with mics and set up somewhere near the SB. The show floor being a notoriously rowdy place at Dead shows, they finally got a roped off section just behind or in front of the SB so their rigs wouldn't get trampled and their mics would pick up less idle crowd chatter. E: I kinda miss the old "BNP" days. (Blanks and postage) Trading tapes was basically snailmail BitTorrent Arms_Akimbo has a new favorite as of 22:37 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Those Grateful Dead cassettes? Many have been converted. There are nearly 13,000 files available for free download.
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