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Then they all have visions of being murdered in their sleep by Audrey
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That's definitely going to happen and I can't wait for the easy plan of "don't plan to kill the people with the staff that tells them how they will die" to backfire. 
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After Trixie and gang successfully escape, the witch returns to the Skyggemyrians who then kill her while explaining how she was outwitted and drugged. The witch sees this as she touches the scepter and takes counter measures.
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Jul 3, 2018 13:57
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Looks like the bad guys are metagaming. They figured out that non-fatal methods are their weakness.
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Jul 7, 2018 02:52
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god drat it Audrey
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Jul 9, 2018 18:51
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I appreciate the deep characterization that goes into realizing Audrey would just automatically mentally insert "...and then we murder them" into a plan explicitly about not murdering someone
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Jul 9, 2018 18:56
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I especially love that Audrey needed it explaining to her why planning to kill them was a mistake.
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Jul 9, 2018 20:01
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I wish you guys'd link the latest comic when you're the first to comment on it, because I only really follow it through this thread. If you don't want to though, that's cool
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Jul 9, 2018 20:34
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Audrey Gravescreams best gurl
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Jul 13, 2018 04:27
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http://trixie.thecomicseries.com/comics/292 planning is hard
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Jul 13, 2018 04:30
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These two are the best sisters.
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Jul 13, 2018 07:19
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Synthbuttrange posted:http://trixie.thecomicseries.com/comics/292 Look, is it really her fault if all continuities lead to murder.
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Jul 13, 2018 07:37
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Is the solution to this puzzle to drug Audrey as well?
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Jul 13, 2018 07:57
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Only after they try to all agree to stop her if she tries to kill anybody, which fails because both Klara and Lyndon wouldn't be able to take away something that makes Audrey so happy.
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Jul 13, 2018 18:13
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Audrey remains unchanged. http://trixie.webcomic.ws/comics/293
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Jul 16, 2018 14:11
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We're about due for that plague, aren't we?
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Jul 16, 2018 14:35
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You know... the plan worked, you could let Audrey kill them now. Wait, it's Thorsby. It'd turn out they were faking unconsciousness and had set a trap. Sorry.
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Jul 16, 2018 14:39
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The Lord of Hats posted:We're about due for that plague, aren't we? Yeah, question is where's it going to come from.
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Jul 16, 2018 15:04
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davidspackage posted:You know... the plan worked, you could let Audrey kill them now. They definitely cannot let Audrey kill them, because the sceptre can actually see the future. If they did release Audrey, then the others would have seen that happening and done something differently. The only way for their plan to have worked is to actually completely prevent Audrey from doing so, so that when the others use the sceptre they see a completely different death, like dying in their sleep fifty years from now or something.
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Jul 16, 2018 15:38
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Deliberately trying to create paradoxes is a great way to catch yourself some kind of horrifying and ironic punishment.
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Honestly, the way to game this system would be to obfuscate the way they die such that they can't plan for it. The scepter only shows a few moments prior to their deaths, after all. Like, subdue them by drugging their food, and then tie them up (and gag them, of course, so they couldn't shout a warning to past selves), and then kill them after they wake up, so it isn't obvious in any future-visions that they were ever drugged. But that's a lot of work when no one other than Audrey really wants to kill them in the first place. ...think they'll keep the scepter this time, or sell it again?
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davidspackage posted:You know... the plan worked, you could let Audrey kill them now. The plan only worked because they actually don't want to let Audrey kill the witch.
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If she would kill them now, it would suddenly turn out that this is just a flash forward from a vision. Imagine suddenly realizing that you're not a real person, but actually just part of a vision, which will end in a few seconds.
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Jul 16, 2018 18:16
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Vision timeline you wouldn't know the difference.
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Jul 16, 2018 18:21
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super sweet best pal posted:Vision timeline you wouldn't know the difference. You would, if Audrey had managed kill them now. Under these circumstances, it's impossible to live in a world were you could trick them into death. (Unless they suddenly didn't bother to use the scepter anymore.)
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Bobulus posted:Honestly, the way to game this system would be to obfuscate the way they die such that they can't plan for it. The scepter only shows a few moments prior to their deaths, after all. Like, subdue them by drugging their food, and then tie them up (and gag them, of course, so they couldn't shout a warning to past selves), and then kill them after they wake up, so it isn't obvious in any future-visions that they were ever drugged. Why overcomplicate things, death by poisoned death scepter handle
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The easiest way would be to plan 2 or 3 different methods that could occur in rapid succession. That way they could prevent the first method but then boom - killed 5 seconds later before they can use the scepter again. Death by poisoned scepter is way better and more creative though!
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Cat Mattress posted:The plan only worked because they actually don't want to let Audrey kill the witch. Yeah but the plan has worked already, what would happen if they now let her kill them? Would it retroactively erase this timeline?
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Jul 17, 2018 16:00
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It looks like it worked, but if they were to let Audrey go back and kill the witch, the witch would have seen that when she used the Sceptre, and would have some kind of post-sleeping draught trap in place.
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The holder of the scepter can freely take actions that invalidate its predictions. I'd assume Trixie's party are /probably/ safe to let Audrey loose, but they don't know exactly what death was seen in the scepter at the last check, and keeping the most murderous member of the party secured helps make sure that any potential death prediction occurs in the far future, and didn't reveal the party's near-future location.
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maltesh posted:The holder of the scepter can freely take actions that invalidate its predictions. I'd assume Trixie's party are /probably/ safe to let Audrey loose, but they don't know exactly what death was seen in the scepter at the last check, and keeping the most murderous member of the party secured helps make sure that any potential death prediction occurs in the far future, and didn't reveal the party's near-future location. What I just realized is that even if the protagonists hold on the scepter, that magic-user might still have one last scepter-vision to use against them. After all, if they encounter her again, Aubrey will probably try to kill her. And whoever is trying to stop Trixie will probably send the same agent for just that reason.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Yeah but the plan has worked already, what would happen if they now let her kill them? Would it retroactively erase this timeline? The scepter didn't show the traditionalists getting murdered then and there by Audrey, for whatever reason. The most obvious reason would be because Trixie and all didn't let her, but it's not the only possible one; they don't know all possible outcomes here, all they know is if they stick to this specific plan the traditionalists don't die, so they can't forsee it. If Trixie and the gang had changed their minds and decided to let Audrey loose after the traditionalists were unconscious, then that would just mean the real reason the traditionalists didn't get murdered right then and there was something else stops Audrey from killing them, very likely something that'd gently caress up the actual goal of just getting the hell off the island.
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Jul 17, 2018 19:09
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Could've just maimed them. They'd be wondering why they had peg legs in their death visions.
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super sweet best pal posted:Could've just maimed them. They'd be wondering why they had peg legs in their death visions. But letting Aubrey doing that would have resulted in Aubrey attempting to kill them, and since we know they didn't die that means her attempt must have been would have failed.
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They should have bound and gagged them and then buried them alive to suffocate in darkness and confusion. If they don't have any clues to how they die, they can't take any precautions!
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Jul 19, 2018 20:09
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294 Lavagargler is my new favorite surname.
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Jul 20, 2018 04:53
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Thank you helpful receptionist!
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Jul 20, 2018 05:10
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Trixie means well, but she needs to accept that you can't make an omelette without killing the rich breaking a few eggs.
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Jul 20, 2018 05:56
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I know that receptionist is probably working for the president, but I really want her to just be like that.
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That receptionist has the right idea of things.
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