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zoux posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx94428MYcc I mean. AN onlooker. Not Onlookers.
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Roblo posted:Elon Musk I now, I kid you not, getting lovely at the Thais on twitter. He's posted correspondence with some guy who was involved in the rescue. Seems like he didn't like how his equipment was dismissed. I wondered what stage of Howard Hughesing Elon is in, but I think this is a completely new track of evolution for tech crazies.
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Roblo posted:Elon Musk I now, I kid you not, getting lovely at the Thais on twitter. He's posted correspondence with some guy who was involved in the rescue. Seems like he didn't like how his equipment was dismissed. post it I loving need it
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World War Mammories posted:post it I loving need it https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016684366083190785
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I thought Elon Musk was more of an ideas guy than an engineer, but now I've seen his proposal for this rescue, I know he isn't even that.
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Not Operator posted:I thought Elon Musk was more of an ideas guy than an engineer, but now I've seen his proposal for this rescue, I know he isn't even that. He's a "I have a lot of money, so you better treat me like a special genius boy or I will take my ball (of money) and go home" guy
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Seems he developed a plan c, but plan a worked What's wrong with that?
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Not Operator posted:I thought Elon Musk was more of an ideas guy than an engineer, but now I've seen his proposal for this rescue, I know he isn't even that. Elon Musk is pretty far from a genius. He was born into wealth and didn't even found Tesla; he showed up after they had already been working on an electric car (modified from an existing prototype from another guy), joined the board of directors, and shoveled over $7 million of his personal fortune into it. His only degrees are Bachelors in physics and economics and he dropped out of a Ph.D program after two days. Virtually all of the work done by Tesla, SpaceX, and the Boring Company is done by other people. He just comes up with wild ideas and throws money at it.
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It turns out when your family is rich is hell and made it all off the backs of apartheid slave labor, there's a good chance you're going to be a huge piece of poo poo.
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They didn't drop plan A and B immediately.
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fisting by many posted:Seems he developed a plan c, but plan a worked He thinks his plan c should've immediately become plan a, because it was, you know, HIS plan.
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Also he said that his submarine could have totally maneuvered through those tight bends, despite looking to have a totally inflexible metal shell and one of those bends being dry at the top so the divers would have had to try and haul an entire loving mini sub with a kid in it over a ledge.
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fisting by many posted:Seems he developed a plan c, but plan a worked Because he's leveraging his plan C (C is also being very generous) as a way to generate publicity about himself and making it all about him/his genius. Edit: It should also be noted that this useless hunk of metal is now in the middle of their rescue efforts, diverting resources and attention by having to deal with it. You're asking for validation of a billionaire's equivalent of someone dumping a bunch of old junk for a relief effort charity drive, which now needs resources to be sorted, likely deemed useless, and disposed of. GrandpaPants has a new favorite as of 16:36 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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fisting by many posted:Seems he developed a plan c, but plan a worked His plan C was less tested than the Personal Protection Equipment janitors use cleaning toilets in a situation where there needs to be asbolutely no doubt in the equipment. Like, there's sooo much you are overlooking by saying this. He's an adult ceo, the expectation is that he needs to be way more thoughtful than "well, at least he tried"
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World War Mammories posted:post it I loving need it Sorry was phoneposting at the time, but was so enraged when I saw it I had to post. Don't read the comments. As always. One of his supporters said the rescue was down to "western ideas" and "toxic masculinity". More negative comments than usual, at least.
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Roblo posted:Elon Musk I now, I kid you not, getting lovely at the Thais on twitter. He's posted correspondence with some guy who was involved in the rescue. Seems like he didn't like how his equipment was dismissed. what a loving baby back bitch
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So wait, you get a pardon for serial arson of federal land? Jokes on us
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Junkie Disease posted:So wait, you get a pardon for serial arson of federal land? Jokes on us Only if you also abuse your teenage relative to force them to hide your crimes.
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 and no one got paid overtime also this is fun https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016686032907931656 just put a kid back in there to test it Elon just do it
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fisting by many posted:Seems he developed a plan c, but plan a worked there was absolutely no reason for him to develop a plan C in the first place. he's only doing it for the publicity because he wants people to hail him as some kind of tech pope. he heard about all these kids trapped in a cave and he barged in shouting "I'll start the wiki!" dude is an unabashed fame hound and this is bad because he's just another lovely exploitative industrialist (he specifically avoids industry safety standards in his factories because of ~disruption~) but because he does things that make self described rationalist nerds moist in the jorts like play with flamethrowers and rockets he gets away with poo poo those same nerds still hate bill gates over Mr. Fall Down Terror has a new favorite as of 18:04 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Yeah he just needs to disrupt poo poo, even if it doesn't need to be disrupted Technology is a hammer and everything is a nail to him If there were logistic issues, lack of oxigen bottles, stuff like that, and he bought a shitton for them and had them transported, I'd applaud his effort. I mean, I don't really care that he built a submarine, but in my eyes he's no hero for that and it doesn't offset the horrible poo poo he does to his workers
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orange sky posted:Yeah he just needs to disrupt poo poo, even if it doesn't need to be disrupted Re: the submarine. I'm extremely sceptical that theyd have been able to get it in there. I've dived, and i do a fair bit of confined space work currently (never combined the two though, gently caress that) and its really difficult manhandling kit in each of those situations, let alone cave diving. I can't see how it was ever viable, and given that the kids were in a safe place (safe being relative) it was never going to be a go-er. I also do a fair bit of work with floods at the moment, and the absolute worst thing is some celebrity or politician coming to have a look around/get some publicity. Takes a massive amount of resources. So all his fans going "at least you tried", eugh, no. gently caress off. As you said, send pumps, generators, scuba gear, food, lighting, comms equipment. Say you sent it, then shut the hell up and let the professionals do the work.
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Musk is such a huge loving baby that if the dude didn't go "sure do whatever you want" and actually said his idea was worthless he would have had a tantrum.
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Roblo posted:Re: the submarine. I'm extremely sceptical that theyd have been able to get it in there. I've dived, and i do a fair bit of confined space work currently (never combined the two though, gently caress that) and its really difficult manhandling kit in each of those situations, let alone cave diving.  Hmm yes, good idea Ol' Musky your submarine is definitely going to fit through there https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/06/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue.html https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44695232
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Roblo posted:Re: the submarine. I'm extremely sceptical that theyd have been able to get it in there. I've dived, and i do a fair bit of confined space work currently (never combined the two though, gently caress that) and its really difficult manhandling kit in each of those situations, let alone cave diving. yeah no the submarine is completely pointless and would not have helped at all, and when people pointed this out the musk fellators pivoted generally to "well it might help someone else" like there's dozens of kids trapped in caves just dying because we need someone to invent a child submarine that can navigate caves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnbSkPXDEP0&t=134s
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orange sky posted:just put a kid back in there to test it Elon Tesla stock price receives significant boost after CEO announces plan to kidnap Thai children for submarine testing "I'll show them, I'll show them all," the controversial billionaire explained in a post on Reddit Tuesday morning.
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He's an Idea Guy that has the money to waste on his terrible ideas
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Is it too late to have a kickstarter for the magic school sub? $10,000 and you get to be one of the first to die in it
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If only I had a billion dollars so that I could send a single airtight child-sized coffin halfway round the world and share it on Twitter. There'd be statues of me in every city!
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oh yeah and this https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/ quote:Still, there were warning signs. As we danced at our wedding reception, Elon told me, "I am the alpha in this relationship." I shrugged it off, just as I would later shrug off signing the postnuptial agreement, but as time went on, I learned that he was serious. He had grown up in the male-dominated culture of South Africa, and the will to compete and dominate that made him so successful in business did not magically shut off when he came home. This, and the vast economic imbalance between us, meant that in the months following our wedding, a certain dynamic began to take hold. Elon's judgment overruled mine, and he was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking. "I am your wife," I told him repeatedly, "not your employee." quote:In the late spring of 2008, my wealthy entrepreneurial husband, Elon Musk, the father of my five young sons, filed for divorce. Six weeks later, he texted me to say he was engaged to a gorgeous British actress in her early 20s who had moved to Los Angeles to be with him. Her name is Talulah Riley, and she played one of the sisters in 2005's Pride and Prejudice. Two of the things that struck me were: a) Pride and Prejudice is a really good movie, and b) My life with this man had devolved to a cliché. musk and riley married in 2010, divorced in 2012, married again in 2014, and divorced again in 2016
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fisting by many posted:Seems he developed a plan c, but plan a worked https://twitter.com/IllyBocean/status/1016200211201314816
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I'm trying to remember which actor was telling the story about how he was having a conversation with Musk at a party, someone came up to ask for a selfie, and Musk was heartbroken that she was talking to the actor and not him. Anyway, a story in two parts: 
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Roblo posted:I also do a fair bit of work with floods at the moment, and the absolute worst thing is some celebrity or politician coming to have a look around/get some publicity. Takes a massive amount of resources. So all his fans going "at least you tried", eugh, no. gently caress off. Meanwhile, the country's prime minister did NOT go there specifically because of this fear.
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