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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Evil Fluffy posted:

unless there's video of Trump helping to abort white christian babies the GOP

You'll need more qualifiers because there are a lot of hispanic white christians in ICE detention centers having "miscarriages" right now.

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Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Evil Fluffy posted:

Especially if 2 years from now the North Korea deal is somehow still at least appearing to be intact.

KJU could take a poo poo on the original Declaration of Independence on live TV and Trump's supporters would still think Trump alpha male'd him into submission.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

hobbesmaster posted:

You'll need more qualifiers because there are a lot of hispanic white christians in ICE detention centers having "miscarriages" right now.

Oooh, I know this one: "papists aren't Christian and we are a nation of Laws, their sins are theirs."

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

hobbesmaster posted:

You'll need more qualifiers because there are a lot of hispanic white christians in ICE detention centers having "miscarriages" right now.

Uh, every good conservative knows that all those Mexicans are brown.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

hobbesmaster posted:

You'll need more qualifiers because there are a lot of hispanic white christians in ICE detention centers having "miscarriages" right now.

They're not white. Don't be silly.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Evil Fluffy posted:

Especially if 2 years from now the North Korea deal is somehow still at least appearing to be intact.

...What deal? Did they sign a deal? I thought it was more like a non-binding "yeah peace is good I guess" resolution thing than anything enforceable

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1016556588163665921

I'm so glad I don't give this rag my money anymore.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

mcmagic posted:

https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1016556588163665921

I'm so glad I don't give this rag my money anymore.

Stop reading the opinion pages.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


hobbesmaster posted:

You'll need more qualifiers because there are a lot of hispanic white christians in ICE detention centers having "miscarriages" right now.

I get what you're saying but whiteness is socially granted and our society does not grant it to them.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Thwomp posted:

Stop reading the opinion pages.

I'm not supporting dangerous propaganda.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Thwomp posted:

Stop reading the opinion pages.

here's the thing: the opinion columnists get paid six times what a reporter does, not including their speaking fees, so when you pay your subscription. well. y'know.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Willie Tomg posted:

here's the thing: the opinion columnists get paid six times what a reporter does, not including their speaking fees, so when you pay your subscription. well. y'know.

Amar isn’t a paid columnist. He’s writing that bullshit for free.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
I mean, he's right, but still...

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1016777860357509120?s=19

Confounding Factor
Jul 4, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1016717181562904582

:eyepop:

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Kalman posted:

Amar isn’t a paid columnist. He’s writing that bullshit for free.

More relatively, they are printing it.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Kalman posted:

Amar isn’t a paid columnist. He’s writing that bullshit for free.

Because he doesn't need the money, lol

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


have none of these fuckers read eichmann in jerusalem.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

hobbesmaster posted:

You'll need more qualifiers because there are a lot of hispanic white christians in ICE detention centers having "miscarriages" right now.

Hispanic =/= white to these people. Even Especially to idiots like Rubio and Cruz.

Thwomp posted:

Stop reading the opinion pages.

Opinions that the NYT promote are opinions it agrees with. Doesn't matter if the article's written for free. The NYT fully endorses it.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
This should end well:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1016816087818817536?s=19

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Willie Tomg posted:

Because he doesn't need the money, lol

Who better to write op-eds than those free of the biasing influence of poordom?

Gnumonic
Dec 11, 2005

Maybe you thought I was the Packard Goose?

Evil Fluffy posted:

Opinions that the NYT promote are opinions it agrees with. Doesn't matter if the article's written for free. The NYT fully endorses it.


This is like, not at all how an opinion page works at a newspaper. The editorials they print are an explicit statement of the views of the editorial board, but every decent newspaper in the history of newspapers strives to cultivate an opinion page with varied perspectives on issues. It's literally impossible for the NYT to endorse everything on the opinion pages because they frequently publish contrasting opinions on given issues.

Maybe you think that a newspaper should only print (whatever you take to be) correct opinions, but that's not how reputable newspapers have worked for hundreds of years. And while there are things I don't like about the NYT, it's just petulant to call the entire publication trash because they printed some stuff you disagree with, that they explicitly refrain from endorsing, in an opinion section (in accordance with longstanding tradition regarding how papers work).

Having said that it's obvious that the dude who wrote that just wants the prestige of having a former student on the court and yeah we shouldn't take him seriously.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
im shocked some HYS shithead supports some other HYS shithead

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Yo can we keep it focused on the SCOTUS nominee and not turn this into Trump Thread Mk 2

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Gnumonic posted:

This is like, not at all how an opinion page works at a newspaper. The editorials they print are an explicit statement of the views of the editorial board, but every decent newspaper in the history of newspapers strives to cultivate an opinion page with varied perspectives on issues. It's literally impossible for the NYT to endorse everything on the opinion pages because they frequently publish contrasting opinions on given issues.

Maybe you think that a newspaper should only print (whatever you take to be) correct opinions, but that's not how reputable newspapers have worked for hundreds of years. And while there are things I don't like about the NYT, it's just petulant to call the entire publication trash because they printed some stuff you disagree with, that they explicitly refrain from endorsing, in an opinion section (in accordance with longstanding tradition regarding how papers work).

Having said that it's obvious that the dude who wrote that just wants the prestige of having a former student on the court and yeah we shouldn't take him seriously.

Anyway, let me introduce our new contributor, Literally Hitler. I think you'll find he provides a good balance to Literally Pol Pot

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Kavenaugh: Net neutrality is an unconstitutional violation of ISP's free speech.

The Right Honorable Kavenaugh posted:

Internet service providers may not necessarily generate much content of their own, but they may decide what content they will transmit, just as cable operators decide what content they will transmit. Deciding whether and how to transmit ESPN and deciding whether and how to transmit ESPN.com are not meaningfully different for First Amendment purposes.

Also, a loving moron who didn't bother to learn how ISPs work.

KennyTheFish
Jan 13, 2004

Stickman posted:

Kavenaugh: Net neutrality is an unconstitutional violation of ISP's free speech.


Also, a loving moron who didn't bother to learn how ISPs work.

Isnt title 2 a way to not be responisble for the content? So if they claim a free speach exemption to it, then they are liable for the speach?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Devor posted:

Anyway, let me introduce our new contributor, Literally Hitler. I think you'll find he provides a good balance to Literally Pol Pot

That's not fair the New York Times would never consider hiring Literally Pol Pot.

Tibalt posted:

Yo can we keep it focused on the SCOTUS nominee and not turn this into Trump Thread Mk 2

Oh right good point.

I'm not sure the prospect of Trump-Kennedy collusion is all that bothersome. If anything that makes it more likely that Kavenagh is going to toe the same line that Kennedy did. That tweet posted last page about how Kavenagh wasn't on the original Federalist list and was snuck in via update is similarly encouraging. It means that he hasn't been vetted properly* by conservatives, but still has enough of a right-wing record that it's risky for them to sink the confirmation**.

*By which I mean the original Federalist list almost definitely consisted entirely of people known personally by the people who wrote it so they had inside information about what those judges would do if given a Supreme Court gavel.

**By which I mean the Republican base will probably take Trump's side over Senate Republicans in any tiff, with all the negative blowback falling on the latter if confirmation of the next justice is delayed until next year.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

KennyTheFish posted:

Isnt title 2 a way to not be responisble for the content? So if they claim a free speach exemption to it, then they are liable for the speach?

I'm sure they'll balance this in a consistent way. There's no way they could make some arbitrary ruling where ISP's are within their rights to run a protection racket on competitors while also not being responsible for the child porn on their network. Why, it would be like stripping unions of agency fees without overruling their obligation to represent members in grievances. It would just be totally illogical.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Stickman posted:

Kavenaugh: Net neutrality is an unconstitutional violation of ISP's free speech.


Also, a loving moron who didn't bother to learn how ISPs work.

Weird how everything is speech, except the stuff they don't like

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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The best is that forcing Doctors to lie to women about the health side effects of abortions is A-OK with fucks like this guy but forcing fraud crisis pregnancy centers say that they aren't a real medical center is BLATANTLY unconstitutional.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Clearly the solution is to have a non doctor explain the legal requirements before a doctor says the thing.

Actually... can doctors say “the following is incorrect but required by law: <lawyer approved stuff> ignore all that.”

edit: reminds me of health class in Kentucky “The answer to question 1 is set by the Kentucky state legislature”. The question was “what is the only 100% effective method of birth control”

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

hobbesmaster posted:

Clearly the solution is to have a non doctor explain the legal requirements before a doctor says the thing.

Actually... can doctors say “the following is incorrect but required by law: <lawyer approved stuff> ignore all that.”

I would be super surprised if a bunch of federal courts didn't start overruling those provisions, based on the NIFLA decision.

I also wouldn't be surprised if SCOTUS then granted cert to come up with a really stupid reason to allow them. But it's pretty difficult to look at NIFLA and see how doctor/patient speech in Texas should be LESS protected than fake-doctor/patient speech in California.

quote:

edit: reminds me of health class in Kentucky “The answer to question 1 is set by the Kentucky state legislature”. The question was “what is the only 100% effective method of birth control”

Same-sex marriage?

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Butt stuff?

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

hobbesmaster posted:

edit: reminds me of health class in Kentucky “The answer to question 1 is set by the Kentucky state legislature”. The question was “what is the only 100% effective method of birth control”
Is their answer medically incorrect?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

ilkhan posted:

Is their answer medically incorrect?

The answer is Abstinence. It is technically correct, but abstinence only education is an anathema to good sex education and healthy sex lives.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Mr. Nice! posted:

The answer is Abstinence. It is technically correct, but abstinence only education is an anathema to good sex education and healthy sex lives.

Technically speaking, abstinent virgins can become pregnant (but not with viable fetuses):

quote:

Spontaneous parthenogenetic and androgenetic events occur in humans, but they result in tumours: the ovarian teratoma and the hydatidiform mole, respectively.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987717302694

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Technically speaking, abstinent virgins can become pregnant (but not with viable fetuses):


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987717302694

I mean, you can also jack off and cum on someone's vulva and knock them up, so it's not even technically correct although masterbation isn't really abstinence.

Wxhode
Mar 29, 2016

by R. Guyovich

Mr. Nice! posted:

The answer is Abstinence. It is technically correct, but abstinence only education is an anathema to good sex education and healthy sex lives.

Does the first question on a test, which accurately describes the most reliable method, constitute abstinence only education?

And isn’t technically correct the best kind of correct?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Wxhode posted:

Does the first question on a test, which accurately describes the most reliable method, constitute abstinence only education?

And isn’t technically correct the best kind of correct?

See my above post. It's arguably not even technically correct.

Abstinence is not a reliable method, either, because it isn't practical. And :lol: if you think that a lot of kentucky schools actually teach sex ed instead of just having a test with the 1 legally required question and then checking the box.

Just looked it up and KY is tied for the #15 state with the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the country at 62/1000. The highest state NM, is 80/1000 while the best state, New Hampshire, is 28/1000.

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Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004

Wxhode posted:


And isn’t technically correct the best kind of correct?

I'd say the best kind of correct is the one that accounts for human behavior and medical outcomes.

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