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jBrereton posted:we would trident them right in their argie faces without blinking an eye this time because it would just be too much going on all at once. Don't nuke the bird sanctuary! 
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Lord of Pie posted:ideal situation would have been for England to lose around the same time Trump landed so he'd be stuck over there for the hooligan uprising A hooligan uprising will occur whether we win or lose.
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it would be terrible if something bad happens to our fat orange bitch president while he's over there. I might cry
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:can someone explain something to me (USAmerican here) please. The reason not to just do-over the Brexit referendum seems to be because it would teach cryptofascist elements of British society that they should use violence instead of valid democratic process to achieve their objectives... isn’t that an unabashed good thing? like, doesn’t it totally delegitimize the political process for a bunch of people who have no business being part of it? 3 reasons; 1. The tories are the ones in power and do the most part they want to do Brexit 2. A majority of the country voted for it so just overturning it would be politically dicey 3. Straight up overturning it isn't that popular, a majority of people who voted to stay were in favour of a soft Brexit according to polls after the referendum
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A small majority of the small amount that actually voted. Lets not act like its one half of the total population against the other. I feel the leavers were more motivated. Should have been a mandatory vote but I don't know if that's legal.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Don't nuke the bird sanctuary! Actually if you're gonna nuke something the falklands are not a bad choice, most of the fallout would land in the ocean and confining nuclear winter to the southern hemisphere would minimize casualties  E: oh no wait the winds go the other way down there, it would be bad
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:can someone explain something to me (USAmerican here) please. The reason not to just do-over the Brexit referendum seems to be because it would teach cryptofascist elements of British society that they should use violence instead of valid democratic process to achieve their objectives... isn’t that an unabashed good thing? like, doesn’t it totally delegitimize the political process for a bunch of people who have no business being part of it? Not everyone who voted for Brexit is a cryptofascist (although plenty were), and there were certainly a lot of Remain voters who did not like the tone that high profile Remain supporters like Labour's deputy leader were taking about "reforming immigration" even if we stayed in the EU. If you tell downtrodden people "you are scum, and the current system is not for your consumption" in a country that isn't full of inept cowards like the US, they will kill people, and they did, even when Brexit was just a question and not a reality. That is in fact neither cool nor good.
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footballs trying to come home but it'll probably get stopped in calais
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John Carpenter's "Escape from London" please make it happen
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jBrereton posted:The thing about British society is that there are a lot of reasons people voted for Brexit, including principally to really piss off the people who didn't want us to do it, who have done next to nothing for communities in Northern England and Wales other than take them for granted/write them off, for decades. I’m here on the continent and late last year I was at a bar and came across a bunch of Brits who were visiting a friend and started hanging out with them and chatting. Eventually Brexit came up, and though a few of the lads seemed skeptical, there were a few that were really honestly convinced that it was a good idea, and that it would ultimately lead to some improvements for Britain and their own personal well-being, and they were vocal about it. They weren’t old nationalist farts and they didn’t seem to be idiots either, and would discuss whatever I brought up in a reasonable manner. Although generally appalled by their opinions, what struck me about that encounter in retrospect was that they spoke with a genuine air of pride and optimism, and they were beaming with hope; I could see that they really believed that this was the right thing to do and that it would ultimately have positive consequences. Even when I would bring up negative consequences of Brexit they would shrug it off because they knew it was all going to work out just fine. It reminded me of the hope and hype people had in America before Obama was elected, a belief that going forward with this would fix everything that bothered them about their country. Then at some point they started saying some horrible and inanely bigoted things that disgusted me, and I excused myself to go to the bathroom and left them to pay for my 4 drinks that were on the tab. twoday has issued a correction as of 20:59 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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If England get through to the final and then lose to France, the entire country will be aflame for a month.
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UrbicaMortis posted:If England get through to the final and then lose to France, the entire country will be aflame for a month. It seems that there is a good chance that that will happen regardless
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That reminds me, I have a book about the Great Fire of London in 1666 that I have been meaning to read
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twoday posted:It seems that there is a good chance that that will happen regardless With the government disintergrating, the world cup and the fact it's still bloody boiling, I think it's a statistically small chance that the UK does not burn down by the end of july.
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fridge corn posted:it's coming home
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I thought the second Falklands war was when Jeremy Clarkson got ran out of Argentina by a mob
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Losing in the world cup semifinal and coming in 4th place overall lead to the collapse of the Brazilian government four years ago.
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fridge corn posted:it's coming home 
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hakimashou posted:Losing in the world cup semifinal and coming in 4th place overall lead to the collapse of the Brazilian government four years ago. Yeah but it's coming home.
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twoday posted:Then at some point they started saying some horrible and inanely bigoted things that disgusted me, and I excused myself to go to the bathroom and left them to pay for my 4 drinks that were on the tab. there's some sort of political metaphor here
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Hentai Jihadist posted:All the sports America cares about are insanely ruled bloated and shitter versions of classic games like rugby and rounders. It would be easier to accept your description if flopping wasn't a legitimate tactic and the rules discouraged playing to lose.
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In your deepest heart of hearts, would you rather win the world cup or stay in the EU?
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brexit is gonna be insanely bad and was totally stupid. going through with it will galvanise the racists as much as overturning it would, since it will give them a taste of success that then turns sour when they realise they haven't got St George's ethnostate that they wanted and so they will start blaming traitors, the EUSSR or commonwealth migrants combined with the 20 year depression that its gonna bring this is all gonna get real nasty and we shouldn't do it. gently caress the referendum, our government has literally never cared about voters before this moment. democracy with a brain-poisoned electorate doesnt work labour's plan seems to be to just let the tories drive us off a cliff and then wrest the wheel off them while we're in free fall so they have enough time to be blamed before we hit the rocks e: it really annoys me that the UKMT regulars seem to have basically come up with really in depth explanations for why we have to be cowards cringing in the face of nigel farage and the EDL or just generally apathetic about it. Pretty much just because corbyn supports driving off the cliff Relevant Tangent posted:It would be easier to accept your description if flopping wasn't a legitimate tactic and the rules discouraged playing to lose. actually the rules encourage winning, friend the team who wins is the winner! Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 01:42 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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UrbicaMortis posted:If England get through to the final and then lose to France, the entire country will be aflame for a month. "The 100-(ish) Minutes War"
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Hentai Jihadist posted:labour's plan seems to be to just let the tories drive us off a cliff and then wrest the wheel off them while we're in free fall so they have enough time to be blamed before we hit the rocks I think the argument is that we basically already drove off the cliff when cameron committed to a referendum with no safeguards and/or the condem coalition destroyed our economy with austerity and/or forty years of hell neoliberalism. the actual process of brexit is the free fall
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Zeroisanumber posted:"The 100-(ish) Minutes War" They've won faster. quote:The Anglo-Zanzibar War was a military conflict fought between the United Kingdom and the Zanzibar Sultanate on 27 August 1896. The conflict lasted between 38 and 45 minutes, marking it as the shortest recorded war in history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Zanzibar_War
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look you fucks. settle down. it’ll all be better when I’m home. e: I’m actually amazed this name wasn’t taken
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David Cameron will go down as the worst PM in history. The Brexit referendum set into motion the dissolution of the United Kingdom. Once Scotland leaves, northern Ireland is going to leave. At least y'all will still have Wales tho 
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Lt. Danger posted:I think the argument is that we basically already drove off the cliff when cameron committed to a referendum with no safeguards and/or the condem coalition destroyed our economy with austerity and/or forty years of hell neoliberalism. the actual process of brexit is the free fall People are honestly sick of hearing about the rolling stream of gently caress ups that is the Brexit "negotiations" (which even Labour idiotically carries on like is a negotiation, which is loving stupid, because it isn't; the EU decides what we get and that's that), and a well led opposition should have been publicly trying to convince people that it's a pile of shite and we shouldn't do it from day one, because it isn't a referendum that Labour in any sense owned. The Tories wanted a referendum, for themselves, and it turns out to have not settled the question even in their own party. No surprise there. Now basically every job in the country is on the line because of a loving parlour game between Cameron and BoJo. You don't have to say "gently caress you poors this political system isn't for you, know your place and shut your face". "The rich shouldn't use it like a toy" is an option too. Hentai Jihadist posted:e: it really annoys me that the UKMT regulars seem to have basically come up with really in depth explanations for why we have to be cowards cringing in the face of nigel farage and the EDL or just generally apathetic about it. Pretty much just because corbyn supports driving off the cliff
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hakimashou posted:In your deepest heart of hearts, would you rather win the world cup or stay in the EU? if we stay in the EEA its like most of brexit didn't happen except we lose EU voting rights which arguably is a good thing since we're responsible for a lot of the shittier bits of the EU
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jBrereton posted:People are honestly sick of hearing about the rolling stream of gently caress ups that is the Brexit "negotiations" (which even Labour idiotically carries on like is a negotiation, which is loving stupid, because it isn't; the EU decides what we get and that's that), and a well led opposition should have been publicly trying to convince people that it's a pile of shite and we shouldn't do it from day one, because it isn't a referendum that Labour in any sense owned. Yea, I'm sure that actually handing Theresa May that hundred-seat majority she was after would really have improved things.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Yea, I'm sure that actually handing Theresa May that hundred-seat majority she was after would really have improved things.
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jBrereton posted:It's a silly argument. It's coming home
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fridge corn posted:It's coming home 
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jBrereton posted:Yeah you're right they seem truly hamstrung by the current coalition arrangement. lol what rock have you been hiding under for the past two days or so? May's government is falling the gently caress apart in case you haven't noticed.
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BarronsArtGallery posted:David Cameron will go down as the worst PM in history. The Brexit referendum set into motion the dissolution of the United Kingdom. Once Scotland leaves, northern Ireland is going to leave. At least y'all will still have Wales tho Reunion of Ireland first; Scottish independence iffy.
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Cerebral Bore posted:lol what rock have you been hiding under for the past two days or so? May's government is falling the gently caress apart in case you haven't noticed.
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