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GunnerJ posted:OK, but on the other hand, we'll regularly say the Dems hosed up for assuming that Clinton would win in 2016, or that otherwise various measures that could be easily undone by GOP victories didn't matter. Not doing this might have enabled "planning on what happens when the pendulum swings back the other way." for Clinton to be campaigning in Arizona and Texas and Georgia of all places and Obama to expect to hand off his presidency to her demonstrates the correct mentality, but then the Dems thought themselves to be a lot more popular than they actually were
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SKULL.GIF posted:you're trying really hard here The question was rhetorical, you pedant. Silver (and all the 538 crew, especially Enten when he was still there) hand-wring annoyingly about every right wing media narrative, instead of stating deliberately what is. This is a Bush-era liberal journo trait that has gotten really loving wearing.
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failing nate has to create the environment to prepare us all for his eventual election projections
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Grimoire posted:The question was rhetorical, you pedant. he is literally undermining these exact myths that you're proposing that he's spreading it's not (or at least is only secondarily) a right-wing media narrative, it's an actual centrist idea that going too far left is going to destroy them, and silver's data shows that this just simply isn't true whatsoever
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double succ https://twitter.com/katearonoff/status/1016896477690507265?s=21 https://twitter.com/pareene/status/1016900489840070656?s=21
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Cool how ocasio doesnt care about the 15th district
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SKULL.GIF posted:he is literally undermining these exact myths that you're proposing that he's spreading its good and healthy to be skeptical of nate "my head is a furry egg" silver, tbf
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nate saying good things should be viewed with a dubious eye, much in the same way that one should look at peter daou's heel-turn-face marketing shift. edit: i mean, david brock attempted to apologize to bernie, but to say he went right back on his bullshit infers he ever left it in the first place. Gene Hackman Fan has issued a correction as of 06:05 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:double succ the same article also says that nixon wants to shut down all nuclear plants so nobody's perfect luckily, she doesn't have to be anywhere near perfect to be a hell of a lot better than cuomo
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i'm p sure somethingawful is the only place where people are "yes, give us more nuclear power". related: if lowtax wants some easy cash i'm sure there's some power companies willing to rent posters as lobbyists
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm p sure somethingawful is the only place where people are "yes, give us more nuclear power". reddit probably
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That was one sticking point I had with Bernie, too, but I'm not a single issue voter.
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I’ve known more conservatives to be pro nuclear energy than libs or leftists. probably because they don’t care about the waste.
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It is a pretty complex subject that can't be boiled down to motivating sound bites, so say whatever on the campaign trail.
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Al! posted:gently caress it
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm p sure somethingawful is the only place where people are "yes, give us more nuclear power". It's common among power nerds. That we're not researching thorium salt reactors with everything we have is ridiculous
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Corky Romanovsky posted:That was one sticking point I had with Bernie, too, but I'm not a single issue voter. bernie at least has the excuse of vermont yankee nuclear power plant being terribly run
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm p sure somethingawful is the only place where people are "yes, give us more nuclear power". Uh, Iran?
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Concerned Citizen posted:is there any scenario where court packing doesn't quickly descend into constitutional crisis levels of absurdity? like in order to do it, first you'd have to abolish the legislative filibuster (since the court size is set by law, not just precedent). then you'd probably be declaring nuclear option to remove all rules that allow the minority to obstruct. after that, you are just confirming as many justices as you can - literally hundreds - as there is absolutely no reason to not do that. and as soon as the gop gets a senate majority/wh combo again, they then do the exact same thing back. i don't see how it's a desirable or realistic path. my dude its already a complete trainwreck thats funny and hosed up and dysfunctional. ride thsi poo poo into the ground or get out of the way
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With an increase in the carbon tax, nuclear power will grow faster than all other non-fossil fuel energies, from 18% in 2012 to 38% with a $25 "carbon fee" (I assume they mean carbon tax) to 38%, according to the IEA, and the carbon tax we need may be in the triple digits. Being "neutral" on it through non-interference, then, means pro-nuclear is the default position, and subsidizing other alternatives without an outright ban would probably mean only slowing the growth of nuclear down. We still haven't found a good way to store the waste and I think we should switch away from nuclear power as fast as possible, but as a stopgap I think it'd be good for softening the surge in energy prices until then. We should be funding research into alternative nuclear fuels and technologies, but I don't think anyone here is against that.
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obama approved of bootyjudge so thats pretty much the kiss of death
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poo poo that's hosed here in tn: there is a hell of a lot of waste in oak ridge because there is nowhere to put it. also, despite the bulk of tva projects being in tennessee, there is nobody from tennessee on the tva board of directors. lakes near tva projects suffer from p. bad water quality. like, 'don't swim or fish here' bad but nobody has put out any advisories to that effect.
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i've heard that the nuclear plant in near nyc rests on some geologically unstable ground, and i could see opposing it from that point of view. but you can stick as many solar panels and wind turbines up as you want, there's no denying that nuclear is gonna be needed
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actually gently caress that build the dyson sphere you cowards
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plenty of SA posters were suddenly staunchly anti-nuclear once REMEMBER WHEN BERNIE PERSONALLY SMEARED NUCLEAR WASTE OVER LATINO BABIES IN TEXAS became a thing
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Serf posted:actually gently caress that
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Serf posted:ascend the kardashev scale what kind of idiot fucker would wish a human species capable of exploiting all the energy of its star on the wider galaxy isn't making GBS threads up one planet enough
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if you're curious about bernie's opposition to nuclear power, check out how the vermont yankee plant was managed under Entergy and the NRC
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:what kind of idiot fucker would wish a human species capable of exploiting all the energy of its star on the wider galaxy the kind of idiot fucker who knows that the only way we could do it is by being better than we are now (mostly by killing our masters first)
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think of all the data centers you could power with the energy of a local star
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Is America still like the only nuclear-powered country that doesn't have reprocessing facilities for spent nuclear fuel, or have we expelled those Carter-era brainworms?
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gradenko_2000 posted:think of all the data centers you could power with the energy of a local star matrioshka data centers 
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gradenko_2000 posted:think of all the data centers you could power with the energy of a local star why would you ever need to power more than one data center? 
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Joementum posted:if you're curious about bernie's opposition to nuclear power, check out how the vermont yankee plant was managed under Entergy and the NRC This is kinda like basing policy on an anecdote. Yeah, acknowledge bad stuff can happen and take reasonable measures against bad stuff happening.
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Is there any evidence that voters who would be inclined to vote for Manchin/Donnelly/etc but won't if they don't vote to confirm Trump's SC picks actually exist?
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