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Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lol

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
The only way to win is not to campaign at all.

Wait, no, that's not how that works actually.

https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1017370526489169923

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/politico/status/1017131562654208000

https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/1017148306546479106

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

reignonyourparade posted:

The people bitching about loving GARY JOHNSON voters always gets me because jesus christ if those people weren't voting for a third party they'd be voting straight ticket republican.

there was literally a bernie/johnson voter in this very thread. johnson "took" (in the sense that they are more dem-leaning voters) more clinton votes than trump votes - you can look at the polling, clinton consistently did worse when johnson was included.

tbh they probably wouldn't have voted for clinton even if there were no 3rd parties to vote for though

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Concerned Citizen posted:

there was literally a bernie/johnson voter in this very thread. johnson "took" (in the sense that they are more dem-leaning voters) more clinton votes than trump votes - you can look at the polling, clinton consistently did worse when johnson was included.

dems shouldnt have nominated a lovely candidate then

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

dems shouldnt have nominated a lovely candidate then

At least they nominated someone who actually is A DEMOCRAT

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Al! posted:

which patrons get sent to the guillotine first:

dennys
ihop
waffle house
village inn

Nowhere that serves breakfast 24 hours is brunch. That's just a late breakfast. If there isn't a brunch menu (or buffet) and mimosas or bloody marys involved it isn't the 'brunch' that people are showing up to protests with signs about.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


https://twitter.com/aptaube/status/1017244520046518273

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Absurd Alhazred posted:

The only way to win is not to campaign at all.

Wait, no, that's not how that works actually.

https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1017370526489169923

That's impossible, demographics are destiny

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao is crowley really running third party

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Jose posted:

lmao is crowley really running third party

he's gonna get owned twice

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Lol, I wonder if he'll actively campaign. Also wonder what endorsements from Dems he'll get if he does (the answer is all of them)

Thoguh has issued a correction as of 13:16 on Jul 12, 2018

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
What is it with states in the northeast that have side parties that always just nominate the Democratic candidate? Is there a reason for the working families party to exist since they don't seem to be a real third party?

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Concerned Citizen posted:

there was literally a bernie/johnson voter in this very thread.

That's neither nor there. A scant few of the people Bernie attracted were actual straight up republicans, just because someone voted Bernie doesn't in of itself mean they're a 'natural' dem voter.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

I hope they lose that ballot line, whatever else happens.

Thoguh posted:

What is it with states in the northeast that have side parties that always just nominate the Democratic candidate? Is there a reason for the working families party to exist since they don't seem to be a real third party?

A bunch more people get to feel important and pampered to. Essentially entryism for people with big egos. It's complete bullshit, DSA has repeatedly shown you don't need that to get a more left-leaning person elected.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Thoguh posted:

What is it with states in the northeast that have side parties that always just nominate the Democratic candidate? Is there a reason for the working families party to exist since they don't seem to be a real third party?

fusion voting is good and cool

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Thoguh posted:

What is it with states in the northeast that have side parties that always just nominate the Democratic candidate? Is there a reason for the working families party to exist since they don't seem to be a real third party?

new yorks had a weird long history of third parties. Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Independence Party, Working Families. A lot of them used to actually run their own candidates, most just endorse either the GOP or dems now.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


the vermont progressive party is pretty cool, basically a party that identifies with bernie and actually runs their own candidates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Progressive_Party

quote:

Economically, the party also calls for converting the minimum wage to a living wage, having the economy focus on small and local businesses, empowerment of worker cooperatives and publicly owned companies as democratic alternatives to multi-national corporations and to decentralize the economy, for the strengthening of state law to protect the right to unionize, for implementing a progressive income tax and repealing the Capital Gains Tax Exemption and residential education property tax and all trade to be subject to international standards on human rights. The party is also critical of privatization.[6]

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
The PA GOP has responded to DSA backed candidates by....campaigning for them?

http://www.witf.org/state-house-sound-bites/2018/07/state-gop-says-its-compiling-lists-of-democrats-who-support-dem-socialists.php

quote:

(Harrisburg) -- The state Republican Party is launching a new strategy for this fall's congressional elections: making and distributing lists of which Democrats support socialized programs, among other things.
Party chairman Val DiGiorgio said the effort comes in response to four candidates backed by the Democratic Socialists of America winning state legislative primaries.
The Republicans are mailing surveys to all the Democrats running for Congress, and say they plan to use the responses--or lack thereof--in campaign material.
Besides asking if candidates support the DSA, the surveys hit on other GOP talking points--whether they support House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and whether they agree with Congresswoman Maxine Waters' call to heckle the president's cabinet members in public.
DiGiorgio didn't draw any distinctions when it came to DSA support--saying he isn't aware of any difference between socialism and democratic socialism.
"As we saw in Venezuela, socialism tends towards totalitarianism and the loss of freedoms," he said. "We think it can very easily lead to communism and the kinds of abuses we saw under communism."
He specifically took issue with the DSA's support for single-payer healthcare, free higher education, sanctuary cities, and abolishing the office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement--all of which he called "very extreme policies."
A spokesman for the state Democratic Party called the survey a "gimmick," and said the policies Democrats--including the Congressional candidates--support are focused on helping working families.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i wonder if the party who has painted the other as communist since 1932 will make any headway with that strategy

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

This would work against most dem candidates because they'd run away from those policies as hard as they could to court imaginary moderates.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
The subset of emigre dipshits who might be swayed by that kind of propaganda tends to also not actually be big enough to sway elections much outside Florida

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Are the dipshitcrats really running a third party candidate against ocasio-cortez

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Kurtofan posted:

Are the dipshitcrats really running a third party candidate against ocasio-cortez

It appears to have happened by accident and they're just rolling with it, which makes it even more pathetic.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
it's a shame because the WFP is pretty good and I like the fusion system we have. for one I'll have to vote for a dem once the dem line instead of the wfp.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Matt Zerella posted:

it's a shame because the WFP is pretty good and I like the fusion system we have. for one I'll have to vote for a dem once the dem line instead of the wfp.

Yeah, I like the idea of the fusion system you guys have. Sometimes poo poo happens, is all.

(One of our Democratic senators is being primaried by a literal Republican lol. Though I'm hopeful he won't gain much traction.)

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
this is..... not gonna end well

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1017394155268575232

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Tiberius Christ posted:

i thought brunch was breakfast for hungover drunks and transcends class

yes. but in worthless shitholes like manhattan it becomes a class-signifier.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



Obama is lose process.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

crowley won 80% of the vote in that district in 2016 so it's gonna be fine, but lol @ crowley for proving he's a dipshit that deserved to lose

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Concerned Citizen posted:

crowley won 80% of the vote in that district in 2016 so it's gonna be fine, but lol @ crowley for proving he's a dipshit that deserved to lose

yeah i meant more in the sense that its going to kick up a lot of unnecessary party in-fighting because he's being a baby

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Thoguh posted:

What is it with states in the northeast that have side parties that always just nominate the Democratic candidate? Is there a reason for the working families party to exist since they don't seem to be a real third party?

for New York it’s part of fusion voting. I’m sure there is some fuckery involved, but I don’t know the details of how candidates get on that line.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Joementum posted:

yeah i meant more in the sense that its going to kick up a lot of unnecessary party in-fighting because he's being a baby

I doubt there's gonna be that much infighting tbh. Dude lost hard enough that he's gonna be more of a honey pot for poo poo donors than anything.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I'm surprised New York doesn't have sore loser laws

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
From the NYT story it's a bit more complicated. Crowley can't actually vacate the WFP line. They usually deal with this by nominating the candidate who wants to vacate for another race that they're sure to lose, like city councilor in Republicanville. And Crowley is refusing to let them do that.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
https://twitter.com/JoeCrowleyNY/status/1017404605133553665

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Eat a dick Joe Crowley

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
it's like when mom joins Facebook and doesn't realize there's a DM feature.

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


"I'm not willing to air grievances on Twitter," the old person said, airing grievances on Twitter

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