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Bob Morales posted:They incrementally made the Air better. The first one sucked (2008). Fixed it in 2010. I'm willing to give them a pass on the MacBook. That's just pure portability and everything else be damned. And those incremental upgrades made the Air their best laptop until Retinas came around. I wasn't paying much attention to Apple notebooks back then, but I remember everyone bitching about this failure of a laptop and then two years later it's the best ultrabook available. I'm more referring to everything in the last 5 years or so with most incremental upgrades or new features no one wants. I've got to buy a college-bound kid a laptop next year and I really want an updated MacBook Air and I'm really starting to think that's not going to happen.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/12/apple-launches-2018-macbook-pro-lineup/ New Macbook Pros e: highlights include 4 or 6 core processors and 32gigs RAM. Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 13:54
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Thiiiiird geeeeeennnn keeeeeeeyboard
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Mu Zeta posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/12/apple-launches-2018-macbook-pro-lineup/ 
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Jul 12, 2018 14:11
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Damnit I literally just bought a 15" mbp after WWDC, really wish there had been some warning about this. Oh well, it's still newer and much better than the 6 year old computer it replaced.
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Jul 12, 2018 14:28
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13-inch non-Touchbar didn't get upgraded 13-inch got the quad i5 and upgradeable to i7 4TB SSD available on the 15" i9 available on the 15" AMD graphics appears to be the same, the model changed from the 555X and 560X (what the X means I don't know) Touchbar is still there 'quieter' 3rd gen keyboard Wide color and trutone display Battery life is still at "10 hours wireless web" despite the LPDDR3 going away i9/32GB/4TB model is $6,699.00 
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Krispy Wafer posted:I've got to buy a college-bound kid a laptop next year and I really want an updated MacBook Air and I'm really starting to think that's not going to happen. You should be able to get the 13" non-touchbar Pro for $1049 or so at Best Buy on sale. It really is the 'heir apparent'. Hah. Hah. Hah. It's not as nice of a deal as the $799 13" Air was, and the touchbar-equipped 13" Pro starts at a whopping $1799.
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Jul 12, 2018 14:32
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Welp, looks like I'm buying a $2000 13" MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM. Now I just need the back to school store to go back online. Edit: A heavy discounted 2017 15" model sure is tempting... Corb3t fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 14:36
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Krispy Wafer posted:I really want an updated MacBook Air and I'm really starting to think that's not going to happen.
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Jul 12, 2018 14:58
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I think we prefer an Air without the garbage display
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Mu Zeta posted:I think we prefer an Air without the garbage display It's called a MacBook. And it's good.
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I need more than one hole The Air with an upgraded display is perfect
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Yes!! Now i just need to fend off IT from forcing me to refresh until they bring the new laptops in as an option
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Jul 12, 2018 15:13
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The 2015 model is gone from the store now. People on Reddit can stop recommending it now.
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They of course made no comments on the reliability of the new keyboard, and the repair program doesn’t apply to the new MacBooks, so I really hope the actually fixed it. Otherwise the backlash later in the year is gonna be fierce.
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Bob Morales posted:The 2015 model is gone from the store now. People on Reddit can stop recommending it now. RIP the last good MBP
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RIP 2015 MBP, the best laptop ever made. e: didn’t notice the new page but I’m glad we’re all in agreement
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Mu Zeta posted:I need more than one hole What am I a chicken? New iCloaca for input and output. quote:The Air with an upgraded display is perfect The most rarest of Apple unicorns. Right next to an updated Mac Mini with the exact same physical footprint because they put a desktop CPU in there with a real GPU.
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Jul 12, 2018 15:52
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What's a Radeon Pro 560X roughly equivalent to in desktop NVIDIA cards? I'm trying to get a feel for the video performance. I heard some saying it was about a 1050, is this accurate?
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Jul 12, 2018 16:41
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Mac Mini Pro. Starting at $2999
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PRADA SLUT posted:What's a Radeon Pro 560X roughly equivalent to in desktop NVIDIA cards? I'm trying to get a feel for the video performance. I heard some saying it was about a 1050, is this accurate? Tough to say. Nobody does good performance reviews on Macbooks since Anandtech quit doing them. The MBP has a Retina display and runs OS X so it's hard to compare with Windows PC's
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Bob Morales posted:13-inch non-Touchbar didn't get upgraded Yeah, pretty much exactly the same as before, down to specs and battery. quote:4TB SSD available on the 15" That's where you get the lol $7000 rMBP quote:Touchbar is still there It's still looking for a loving purpose other than to hold the %$#$% T2 chip. Jony said 'OH NOES YOU CANT TAKE IT AWAY ITS BEEYOOTIFUL' quote:Battery life is still at "10 hours wireless web" despite the LPDDR3 going away You only get LPDDR4 (and 32 GB total RAM) on the 'best' 15-inch tier, the 2.7GHz i7 / 2.9 GHz choices. Countdown to inevitable iFixit take apart where the fixability score remains the same as the 2017s, also countdown to BareFeats issuing semi-useful benchmarks; if they actually include the 2015 models in the benchmarks that might additionally prod me.. Apple continues to use year only nomenclature, it's just called the 2018 instead of 'Late 2013' or 'Early 2015' indicating they'll never release more than one laptop model a year going forward. Apple also offers the Belkin Thunderbolt 3 Express Dock HD as a preferred docking choice in the Apple Store. Amazon reviews pretty much state it's lovely, has sleep and HDMI issues, offers fewer ports.. sigh. Its only saving grace is that it offers 85W of USB-C charging power, enough to charge a 15-inch. I'd get the CalDigit TS3 Plus over their choice, but whatevs.. Wonder what battery life will be like when the hexacore i9 is stressed out? Be interesting to see benchmarks from stuff like R and other statistical apps.. Other than the quad core goodness and HEVC hardware compatibility, there's not much to tear me away from my Early 2015 rMBP jury rigged with 1 TB Samsung 970 Pro.. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Binary Badger posted:You only get LPDDR4 (and 32 GB total RAM) on the 'best' 15-inch tier, the 2.7GHz i7 / 2.9 GHz choices. It's DDR4 across the board for the 15". I'm looking at the lower spec 15" right now and it comes standard with 16GB DDR4
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PRADA SLUT posted:What's a Radeon Pro 560X roughly equivalent to in desktop NVIDIA cards? I'm trying to get a feel for the video performance. I heard some saying it was about a 1050, is this accurate? Performance is equivalent to or slightly better than a desktop GT 1030.
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Glad that they finally got around to updating, but it's a real bummer they didn't fix any of the problems or update the non-touch bar model.PRADA SLUT posted:What's a Radeon Pro 560X roughly equivalent to in desktop NVIDIA cards? I'm trying to get a feel for the video performance. I heard some saying it was about a 1050, is this accurate?
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Proteus Jones posted:It's DDR4 across the board for the 15". I'm looking at the lower spec 15" right now and it comes standard with 16GB DDR4 Okay, I stand corrected. Apple must be in the middle of touching up their store pages, or my provider sucks, because up until just now I didn't see the choice for 16/32 GB RAM on the 'good' and 'better' models. Sheesh, it's $ 3,000 just for the 4 TB choice. Who the hell needs to carry that much tentacle porn with them.. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 17:13
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Well, now what. I'd really hoped that this would be the year I get to upgrade this mid-2012 non-retina 15" MBP. Of all the things I disliked about the new MBPs, I'd decided to buy one if they'd just release a 15" without the touchbar, since it seemed to me like that would be the most likely thing for them to do. $2500 laptops should not come with a laundry list of things I dislike. 
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Luceo posted:if they'd just release a 15" without the touchbar, since it seemed to me like that would be the most likely thing for them to do. Why did that seem likely to you? That seems like it would be so far off the board to not even consider it.
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Proteus Jones posted:Why did that seem likely to you? That seems like it would be so far off the board to not even consider it. Because there's already a 13" without the touchbar?
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I am irritated that the base 13” model only has 8gb of ram for a pro machine
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I wonder if th new touchbar will be bigger and less useful. Lol iOS doesn’t even let me type touchbar without autocorrect. Looks like someone at Apple didn’t add it to their newspeak dictionary.
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Luceo posted:Because there's already a 13" without the touchbar? Apple are big fans of having an outlier model that doesn't match the rest of the series, probably so they can do a "starting at $999" or whatever pricepoint thing.
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The 13-inch non-TouchBar has a discrete SSD with a proprietary connector, the TouchBars have the SSD integrated as part of the logic board. This minute difference does matter a bit if the SSD fails, with the NTB you just pull out the bad SSD and replace it. With the integrated SSD on TB models, you have to toss the whole logic board if it fails; also you have to use this weird jury-rigged board to hook up the logic board to in order to try to recover data.
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That’s what external drives and cloud storage are for. It’s not Apples fault you’re not using your $3000 disposable laptop properly 
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A lot of people are going to be happy with 32GB of RAM in the 15 and a quad-core in the 13 I see a ton of Macbook Pro's going up for sale in the next week or two.
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They announced this eGPU as well:quote:Thursday July 12, 2018 6:29 AM PDT by Mitchel Broussard 
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Sent from my iPad posted:
Don’t be a jerk. I mean the chipset for the laptops wasn’t available till the beginning of this summer, and a few of the windows laptops that used them basically melted down. They alerted it out, but Apple waits until they’ve tested a ton of chips before they put them in their laptops. As for the keyboards, yeah, it’s a problem. I won’t buy a new laptop till they’ve sorted it out. That’s why hopefully them are working to fix it. It also doesn’t cost you anything now, new replacement program.
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Something to consider, first published opinion of the third gen keyboards. https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/12/the-new-macbook-pro-keyboards-are-quieter-but-otherwise-unchanged/ 'Quieter' doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence but as long as they can withstand a dust mote without exploding into flames, who cares..
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I still have the 2016 keyboard and I do get dirty looks when I'm clacking away on the train ride home I wish it was louder
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So … space gray or silver? Is silver the same color as the old unibody aluminum ones?
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