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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

schumer: alright after 510 hours of heated debate we've arrived at a new deal: what if you didn't actually do any of the socialism you said you wanted to do

AOC: no thanks

schumer: stop being divisive

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Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Nichael posted:

Senator Carper is too much of a pussy to debate Kerri, or he's afraid history will repeat itself and he'll collapse on stage. The only reason Carper won his first Senate race was his GOP opponent fainted mid-debate.

Carper is an old and dying fascist enabler.

Even luke sent a force projection

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Calibanibal posted:

Even luke sent a force projection

luke was a cuck

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Look, look, guys, you can't get mad at Crowley. It's His Turn.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Tanks But No Tanks posted:

when your flights of fancy are fantastic enough to imagine yourself a wingless dragon but not enough to consider providing housing and services for all

Labor costs make up only a small proportion of most businesses as expenses. "Impossible" sounds absolutely defeatist, but they have to be in order to avoid having to go into the details of the tradeoff.

Centrists demand the left have detailed accounting of how a proposal would be balanced by taxing the rich, as if individuals have the capability of the Congressional Budget Office. Then they act like it's okay for them not to offer the specifics on how their proposals will be paid for, just because their policies are tepid enough that they expect their voters to take it on faith that it's a three year student loan moratorium for entrepreneurs that's actually affordable.

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 22:21 on Jul 12, 2018

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

This Crowley fellow sounds like a real piece of work, lemme tell ya.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Yall I wanna win an argument on the internet, can someone document that Crowley has done or asked people to do this thing before so I can shut some bootlickers up? Thank you. :) I would google it but idk what to google that wouldn't just bring this up, sorry. (ETA: only asking here because a few people have said "yeah he did this exact same thing" like they knew for sure.)

GunnerJ has issued a correction as of 23:00 on Jul 12, 2018

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

GunnerJ posted:

Yall I wanna win an argument on the internet, can someone document that Crowley has done or asked people to do this thing before so I can shut some bootlickers up? Thank you. :) I would google it but idk what to google that wouldn't just bring this up, sorry.

he lost his primary. he shouldn't be on the ballot. end of story.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

No i cant fo your homework for you

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


have a little homemade succ guys!

quote:

So let me get this straight. The WFP runs fake primaries where the winner is removed by the will of the party apparatchiks and not only are you all fine with this, failure to comply is a sign you're undemocratic.
There isn't a single element of this story you wouldn't feel 180 degrees about if the winners of the two primaries were reversed, In fact you'd be cheering Ocasio-Cortz to actually run and not simply have her name on the ballot and you know it.

mmmm, just like evilweasel used to make

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Nonsense posted:

What bad vote has Manchin cast that was the deciding vote? It doesn't loving matter if he was the 53rd yes.

lol

This is what I had to say about these stupid loving responses:

quote:

Ever notice how these rebuttals have a habit of boiling down to "It can't be helped and it never really mattered in the first place, so there's no point criticizing centrism so please stop. Otherwise you might upset people and then things will REALLY go to poo poo!"?

Somehow it always comes down to inaction.

It can't be helped about Manchin, he's the best we could do, sit down and stfu

It can't be helped about Hillary, look at her opponent! sit down and stfu

It can't be helped about Schumer, focus on the upcoming election, sit down and ignore the DNC attacking people who would oppose Schumer

It can't be helped about all these Democrats who keep on voting in favor of banks, we're fighting against the fascists, sit down and stfu

They get really upset about criticism and calling out of horrible fuckers, and tell us to just elect better people instead, but somehow fail to grasp that the process of moving Congress left and electing better people necessarily involves clearly pointing out who's being insufficient (or malicious) and targeting them to be replaced, along with repeated attention paid to the issue when they do these stupid poo poo moves over and over and over.

Your leg is in paralyzing pain but it can't be helped so just sit down and stfu instead of saying "maybe we should go to a doctor" every time you have a leg spasm

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Taintrunner posted:

Look, look, guys, you can't get mad at Crowley. It's His Turn.

I'm with HIM

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1017514708386111488

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Kazak posted:

America already has an insurgent army of centrists and they've kept the left cornered for decades.

Nazis would legitimately be a better motivator than the current roster of liberal outlets and figureheads keeping the overton window securely center-right

bring back the nazis to make America better says poster

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Condiv posted:

have a little homemade succ guys!


mmmm, just like evilweasel used to make

Yes, everyone on Ocasio's side here would absolutely be taking a reverse position if things were reversed, just like when people clamored for Bernie to run as an independent and split the vote or that time the left ran Nef Lamont as an independent against known Democratic Party loyalist Joe Lieberman.

I'm in a doctor's office waiting room right now, which is where all my time to anti-Crowley shitpost is coming from

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



who are the succ dems running against teachout

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

<Tetsuo Shima> KANIELAAAAAAA

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

This Laurels doesn't even have a Rose.

Fake DSA

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

galenanorth posted:

Yes, everyone on Ocasio's side here would absolutely be taking a reverse position if things were reversed, just like when people clamored for Bernie to run as an independent and split the vote or that time the left ran Nef Lamont as an independent against known Democratic Party loyalist Joe Lieberman.

I'm in a doctor's office waiting room right now, which is where all my time to anti-Crowley shitpost is coming from

Also comparing the a nomination in the Democratic Party (one of two venues for making a serious run at the presidency and the only one that allows candidates to admit global warming is real and not want to nuke Mexico) to one in the Working Families Party (uh who are they again?) is one of the falser equivalencies I've heard in a while

The WFP is basically a hobby, who cares how democratic their primary is?

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008


drat he's just owning suckers in the replies, too. Good poo poo.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Owning succers*

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

It's been interesting watching all the libs who supported AOC when she was just a random POC woman candidate to them, but now that she's had the nerve to BE COMBATIVE(!!!) they're all turning on her. Just like they always do with any minority who doesn't just smile, nod, and toe the line.

edit: Like that one poster who was all "I liked her, but I'm disappointed by her comments towards Crowley." These people have had their minds so warped that they view any openly combative activity as inherently wrong. Of course, enforcing politeness just happens to benefit those who already have the most power.

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 23:03 on Jul 12, 2018

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

close both threads and post a new SuccDems thread imho

is there anyone that objects to this?

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
The suck zone: we prefer literal nazis to spineless cowards for some reason

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



consolidate the posting centers

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Ytlaya posted:

It's been interesting watching all the libs who supported AOC when she was just a random POC woman candidate to them, but now that she's had the nerve to BE COMBATIVE(!!!) they're all turning on her. Just like they always do with any minority who doesn't just smile, nod, and toe the line.

edit: Like that one poster who was all "I liked her, but I'm disappointed by her comments towards Crowley." These people have had their minds so warped that they view any openly combative activity as inherently wrong. Of course, enforcing politeness just happens to benefit those who already have the most power.

Man, I know we bitch about D&D a lot here but this is a record succ day for them.

The poo poo I've seen today...loving Christ.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Shear Modulus posted:

consolidate the posting centers

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

WampaLord posted:

Man, I know we bitch about D&D a lot here but this is a record succ day for them.

The poo poo I've seen today...loving Christ.

you do this to yourself

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

The most important thing a person can do is fall in line with what the Democratic Party wants

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

Ytlaya posted:

It's been interesting watching all the libs who supported AOC when she was just a random POC woman candidate to them, but now that she's had the nerve to BE COMBATIVE(!!!) they're all turning on her. Just like they always do with any minority who doesn't just smile, nod, and toe the line.

edit: Like that one poster who was all "I liked her, but I'm disappointed by her comments towards Crowley." These people have had their minds so warped that they view any openly combative activity as inherently wrong. Of course, enforcing politeness just happens to benefit those who already have the most power.

most of these folks are the usual donut twitter/anti-Bernie/anti-left tribalists and were already looking for an excuse to turn on AOC. fortunately, there aren't that many of them in the real world, thank god

like you pointed out recently in the USPOL thread, they'll automatically presume good faith from Crowley or anyone else aligned with the Dem establishment, but will never, ever do the same for AOC, Bernie, or another leftist

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

freckle posted:

you do this to yourself

I have a sickness, I know

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


it's not just D&D, these same opinions are popping up elsewhere too

I like that they've all very suddenly and conveniently forgotten that Crowley and his campaign were breaking multiple electoral laws on the day of the primary to try to frame Ocasio

But, sure, Crowley has no ulterior motives at all here and is playing very fairly by the book

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

loquacius posted:

The most important thing a person can do is fall in line with what the Democratic Party wants

Look, the most important thing you gotta do is vote. Just vote. Now yes I'm implying that you only vote for Third Way Sexy Serious Centrists, it's important that you just vote. Don't organize, don't form a labor union, or any of those things that build political power, leave all of that hard thinking to the Serious Political People and our army of paid consultants, you gotta just vote.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

SKULL.GIF posted:

it's not just D&D, these same opinions are popping up elsewhere too

I like that they've all very suddenly and conveniently forgotten that Crowley and his campaign were breaking multiple electoral laws on the day of the primary to try to frame Ocasio

But, sure, Crowley has no ulterior motives at all here and is playing very fairly by the book

or that Crowley was undemocratically appointed to his seat in the first place

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Yeah just don't engage with them. They were powerless to stop here before they're powerless now so just laugh as they get trampled underfoot again.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
The end game here is probably to find a way to disqualify AOC from being on the ge ballot but crowley's name stays on

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

anime was right posted:

The end game here is probably to find a way to disqualify AOC from being on the ge ballot but crowley's name stays on

They won't though

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

anime was right posted:

The end game here is probably to find a way to disqualify AOC from being on the ge ballot but crowley's name stays on

*six figure dem consultant voice* the republicans can't call us socialists if we pass a resolution banning socialists from our party!

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Lawman 0 posted:

They won't though

Disqualifying her would cause a huge party schism

Their best shot is just to try to marginalize her as much as possible -- in fact this is what I suspect Crowley was attempting to do all along, not to try to spoil Ocasio out of the victory entirely, but to reduce her margin of victory as much as they can so another candidate can later go "Socialism isn't AS popular as we thought, the people of NY-14 want a safe, reasonable and sensible person to lead them."

Crowley winning by +80, Ocasio winning by only +50 (but don't mention that a bunch of these went to Crowley) would be ammunition

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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

anime was right posted:

The end game here is probably to find a way to disqualify AOC from being on the ge ballot but crowley's name stays on

I... do not see how that happens.

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