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IcePhoenix posted:Any tips for stuff like hell wyrm and omega? I don't remember the specifics anymore I just used the reverse thing for Omega.
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Mega64 posted:2: PSP (or GBA). Newer versions remove a lot of tedium and dumber mechanics of the original without compromising anything. Always play the NES version of 3 because autosave via the Steam version is still inferior to Save States and the Steam version is still the terrible 3D remake.
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Jul 11, 2018 23:11
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I like the remake of 3. But I only played it after I played the original.
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Jul 11, 2018 23:20
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Alright, gonna begin playthrough of 2 soon on GBA version. Heard the leveling system in it was kind of weird and annoying. Anything to know that would help make it smoother to play through it without ending up grinding a bunch or anything like that?
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Jul 12, 2018 01:59
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Give everyone a shield. Pretend its an elder scrolls game and spam skills to make them better. Instakill magic is good if you level it up, and berserk is fantastic. Edit: I wrote this a long time ago and its all relevant to PSP/iOS version, unsure about GBA: quote:you'll probably want to give everyone shields, and probably dont want to wear armor at first, as it lowers your evasion. (shields boost your evasion while equipped, and have no weight.) CuddlyZombie fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 03:30
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Zerilan posted:Alright, gonna begin playthrough of 2 soon on GBA version. Heard the leveling system in it was kind of weird and annoying. Anything to know that would help make it smoother to play through it without ending up grinding a bunch or anything like that? The GBA version, like that version of 1, is really forgiving and pretty easy. It's pretty easy to just use whatever weapons or spells or any combination of the two that you like. Everyone should be casting something pretty regularly.
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Jul 12, 2018 03:37
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Wear light armor, heavy armor is inferior in almost every way. Otherwise, always wear shields. The GBA version removes the spellcasting penalties from weapons and shields so feel free to use the strongest stuff, armor still has them but this list has which ones affect what. Since it'd be a pain to memorize all that, stick to light armor and probably stick with the default helmet/gloves except for your least-spellcasty person, who'd at least appreciate the Thief Gloves. Evasion is king in FF2, and that depends on Agility, and the best way to get Agility is having Agility. Shields help. If you have a character struggling to get through some of the later dungeons, like Guy, consider shoving them in the back row and making them a pure spellcaster since back row characters cannot be hit by any physical attacks at all, unless everyone in the front row is dead. You probably won't need that advice, as GBA on make the game significantly easier, but it definitely doesn't hurt. FF2's one of those games that seems daunting but, once you know what you're doing, you can break the thing over your knee with ease.
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Jul 12, 2018 10:11
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i beat ff2 dawn of souls with a misbuilt firion casting cure XVI every turn and maria chucking mid-level Holy from the back row. they use this as a legal enhanced interrogation technique. ff2-gba is easy enough to brute force, but if you don't make an effort to get a fair understanding of it, playing it at all is loving miserable.
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Jul 12, 2018 10:17
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Does anyone know if beating things in Trial mode in Zodiac Age will unlock trophies if I haven't killed them before? I know it unlocks bestiary entries. I ask because I decided to jump into trial mode last night on a whim and I got to 80 before stopping for the night and think I might have a chance to beat it outright with my party as is (I haven't really done any strategy yet and have only had trouble on a couple fights) and not having to do some of the optional fights in the normal game would be cool.
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IcePhoenix posted:Does anyone know if beating things in Trial mode in Zodiac Age will unlock trophies if I haven't killed them before? I know it unlocks bestiary entries. It does
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Jul 12, 2018 16:13
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WaltherFeng posted:It does Awesome. 81-100 look like a big step up but hopefully my party can manage it.
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Jul 12, 2018 16:24
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Is rikku solely included in your party for stealing? By the time you get her back she's insanely far behind on the grid, she doesn't get more AP than everyone else to make up for it, I don't know what to do with her. She's weak as hell so it's annoying to throw her in the party for gains because she can't do anything.
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Kingtheninja posted:Is rikku solely included in your party for stealing? By the time you get her back she's insanely far behind on the grid, she doesn't get more AP than everyone else to make up for it, I don't know what to do with her. She's weak as hell so it's annoying to throw her in the party for gains because she can't do anything. Comedy answer she is so you can steal from machina which is an instant kill or something silly.
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Jul 13, 2018 01:18
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Kingtheninja posted:Is rikku solely included in your party for stealing? By the time you get her back she's insanely far behind on the grid, she doesn't get more AP than everyone else to make up for it, I don't know what to do with her. She's weak as hell so it's annoying to throw her in the party for gains because she can't do anything. she's the strongest character because of Mix
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Jul 13, 2018 01:19
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Rikku can use her special Use command until she catches up with special powerful potions and grenades you can steal from machine enemies that JUST HAPPEN to start showing up en masse around then. That said her part of the grid is iffy. Her utility powers are great and Agility is a stat everyone wants, but she gets like nothing else so she’s a pretty good recipient of a Friend Sphere to go spend some time in Lulu or Auron’s grids then come back with a Return Sphere after getting some actual stats.
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Jul 13, 2018 01:41
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Kingtheninja posted:Is rikku solely included in your party for stealing? By the time you get her back she's insanely far behind on the grid, she doesn't get more AP than everyone else to make up for it, I don't know what to do with her. She's weak as hell so it's annoying to throw her in the party for gains because she can't do anything. You don't need Rikku to have good stats to do 9999 damage to everything everywhere. She's the exact opposite of weak as hell, she's how you break FFX's campaign.
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Jul 13, 2018 01:57
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Leveling is not remotely hard for her to catch up, since she just needs to participate. Also she joins at like maybe the 40% part of the game. Plenty of battles that she'll even out. At worst, she's the speediest character which means you start every battle with initiative via Tidus/Yuna/Rikku.
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Jul 13, 2018 02:00
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Riku’s sphere grid is frontloaded with stats that catch her up to everyone else pretty quick so just hang in there. One wonders why she couldn’t just start the game “caught up” but I’m not a game dev
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Jul 13, 2018 02:05
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Because she's also the first character to join the party after Zanarkand, so they probably didn't want her to have Moonflow stats right at the start.
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Jul 13, 2018 02:08
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Ainsley McTree posted:Riku’s sphere grid is frontloaded with stats that catch her up to everyone else pretty quick so just hang in there. Because those front loaded stat bonuses are her starting caught up cause a few fights gets her enough to grab them
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Jul 13, 2018 02:15
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Because those front loaded stat bonuses are her starting caught up cause a few fights gets her enough to grab them Yeah but she could just start with those stat....no forget it
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Jul 13, 2018 02:17
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Rikku was my primary healer in game because Al Bhed potions were AoE healing and a good variety of status cleansing. She also gets a store bought weapon with Alchemy with makes it even better. Kimahri ended up being my backup healer because he went and grabbed Use/Steal as well.
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Jul 13, 2018 02:39
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Rikku being weak and mainly just good for stealing and throwing items is cool and good because you can always just swap her out whenever.
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Jul 13, 2018 02:46
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I will say I do love the character swapping in the game. It really makes you want to use everyone and not just stick to the same three people.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:45
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Kingtheninja posted:I will say I do love the character swapping in the game. It really makes you want to use everyone and not just stick to the same three people. Completely agreed. It also gives the sense of the party actually traveling and adventuring together instead of everyone, I dunno, hanging out at an inn or something while the protagonist and two best friends handle it on their own. I also appreciate that the game actually gives you incentives to use everyone (except kimahri) in battle too.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:55
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Breath of Fire 4 would have the non active party members occasionally do things in battle which was cool.
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Jul 13, 2018 04:07
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Ainsley McTree posted:Yeah but she could just start with those stat....no forget it Well for one sphere grid allows you to control how you grow your characters, or if you grow them at all. Getting characters at base stats gives the player more control. And lets not forget the original EU version and all versions after it have 2 sphere grids, the other one being significantly more open so it makes sense everybody has only base stats.
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Jul 13, 2018 05:02
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well then they should start her with the same sphere exp as tidus
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Got to trial level 97 tonight! A few deaths on the way but I think I have enough items left to pull it off. The Judges are definitely going to suck hard though since I don't have Zodiark and strategies seem to suggest using him to do a bunch of damage. I do have Nihopola though so I can at least get all the statuses up that I need to.
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Jul 13, 2018 05:21
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IcePhoenix posted:I do have Nihopola nihopalaoa  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lei_niho_palaoa
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You knew what I meant so good enough  What's the strategy for the judges? Disease them all, move to the other side of the arena and just hope you can outlast them? Are there any really good summons to use outside zodiark? I assume that once I can get a couple of them down it will fall into place, like the earlier fight with all the pharos bosses at once.
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I recently finished FF2. I read about the evasion and no armor tips but at some point everyone just started dying no matter what so since that point I always put the best armor on everyone and didn't look back. My biggest annoyances though were beneficial spells that could miss on your allies, crazy crap shoot live or die dice rolls because of some of the enemy groups, the lovely mazelike dungeon designs that were much worse than in the first game and last but not least, the game constantly taking away your 4th member, sometimes even mid-dungeon. But I liked the music a lot.
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lordfrikk posted:I recently finished FF2. I read about the evasion and no armor tips but at some point everyone just started dying no matter what so since that point I always put the best armor on everyone and didn't look back. My biggest annoyances though were beneficial spells that could miss on your allies, crazy crap shoot live or die dice rolls because of some of the enemy groups, the lovely mazelike dungeon designs that were much worse than in the first game and last but not least, the game constantly taking away your 4th member, sometimes even mid-dungeon. Even in the days of much more sophisticated technology to make much more varied music, FF2's normal battle theme is still probably my favorite normal battle theme in the series Love the Ancient Castle dungeon music as well..
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IcePhoenix posted:You knew what I meant so good enough Use Bubble Mote on your Zeromus, then equip Nihopalao and use Elixir. Now use Big Bang. If you are high enough lvl you will oneshot at least half the judges.
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WaltherFeng posted:Use Bubble Mote on your Zeromus, then equip Nihopalao and use Elixir. Now use Big Bang. Well alright then. My party is in the 60s so hopefully that's high enough, but I suppose as long as I get another party member with lure I can just tank long enough between summons to elixir out multiple summons.
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IcePhoenix posted:Are there any really good summons to use outside zodiark? Well, Zeromus' Big Bang is straight up the best attack in the game, so.... yeah.
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lordfrikk posted:I recently finished FF2. I read about the evasion and no armor tips but at some point everyone just started dying no matter what so since that point I always put the best armor on everyone and didn't look back. My biggest annoyances though were beneficial spells that could miss on your allies, crazy crap shoot live or die dice rolls because of some of the enemy groups, the lovely mazelike dungeon designs that were much worse than in the first game and last but not least, the game constantly taking away your 4th member, sometimes even mid-dungeon. I read this as FF 12 
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IcePhoenix posted:Well alright then. My party is in the 60s so hopefully that's high enough, but I suppose as long as I get another party member with lure I can just tank long enough between summons to elixir out multiple summons.
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Jul 13, 2018 20:48
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Is Zeromus the one whose abilities are literally just "Knot of Rust" and "Dark Matter" or is that another one
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The judges are probably my favorite superbosses because rather than being HP sponges they just heal up like you would.
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