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Darchangel posted:I mentioned my incredulity regarding the braking thing in the chat thread a while back, after hearing an ad for one of the nanny boxes mentioning braking "too hard". That seems like a very poorly thought-out requirement. FWIW, I had a snapshot box through Progressive for six months on a 2003 V6 F-150 maybe three years ago. Here is their brief description of the program. It worked pretty much like they say it will. Pay up six months with a small discount and drive with the bitch box connected. After that you get a further rebate (or penalty) and the discount carries on, I guess until something happens. I got like $230-something back, for almost $300 in discounts that six months. They don't explain exactly how the thing works, so the following is partly speculation: The box would only beep if you really pushed the vehicle; braking hard enough to aaallllmost set off the ABS, long periods of high speed (I'll get to this in a second), or abrupt acceleration. I rarely encountered the last example in that truck. A quick jump on the brakes didn't trigger it, nor did low speed/high effort manuevers (pulling around a trailer, for example). It really wasn't that obtrusive, more like gentle prodding. You get a report at the end of your time using the box. It gives you the total number of alerts for braking and accel, and time spent over 75mph for more than four seconds with average speed over 75, including the average times you were doing so (got all that?). They got me on that last one, "The gently caress?! I don't drive that fast going home." Yes, yes you do bud. Take from that what you will. e: lovely snipe I hate that one dude who rode my right-rear corner with his brights on for forty miles of stormy interstate at 3am. Not another car on the road, just keeping pace no matter what I did. Those nice big box truck mirrors sure do point your headlights DIRECTLY INTO MY EYES AND I CANT SEE poo poo NOW! dickhead madeintaipei fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Ok, honest to god question on the nanny box, what position were you in when you accepted it? Edit: Should say, financial, hard to insure, etc. Just trying to wrap my head around this device.
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Jul 12, 2018 19:23
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Colostomy Bag posted:Ok, honest to god question on the nanny box, what position were you in when you accepted it? I drive in Tampa Bay, pretty much. poo poo's expensive and I'll take a discount. Male, early thirties, no accidents, mid-700's credit score, owned the truck. It's not like I went into it totally blind. You have to totally gently caress up to get an extra charge on your bill. I got an average discount for people who enrolled in the program. Look at it this way: If I did about average while obviously flubbing the mileage estimate and maybe going too fast sometimes, either almost half of enrollees were gibbering idiots, almost half of enrollees were being over-charged for insurance, or maybe both.
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Jul 12, 2018 20:36
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I had one of the progressive boxes and it was super annoying. It beeps after "hard braking" which for me turned out to be basically all braking in traffic or, for example, braking to turn off of a 55mph road. I wonder, since I drive an oldish ('06) Focus without ABS, if the ODB2 port doesn't expose data that's granular enough for the nannybox to work properly. The Torque app's live dashboard works fine, though. Anyway I got barely any discount out of it.
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Jul 12, 2018 21:02
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madeintaipei posted:I drive in Tampa Bay, pretty much. poo poo's expensive and I'll take a discount. Male, early thirties, no accidents, mid-700's credit score, owned the truck. It's not like I went into it totally blind. You have to totally gently caress up to get an extra charge on your bill. I got an average discount for people who enrolled in the program. Look at it this way: If I did about average while obviously flubbing the mileage estimate and maybe going too fast sometimes, either almost half of enrollees were gibbering idiots, almost half of enrollees were being over-charged for insurance, or maybe both. Thank you for answering. Can you give a percentage for your discount?
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Jul 12, 2018 21:09
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Colostomy Bag posted:Thank you for answering. It brought me down to $670/six months, if that's what you're asking. I don't mean any offense, but do you sell insurance?
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Jul 12, 2018 21:37
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Jul 12, 2018 22:13
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i havent driven a manual wrangler in a while, is the shift pattern that stupid?
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Jul 12, 2018 22:16
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Break something and go 3 ->1 for a bonus swastika.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:21
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sneakyfrog posted:i havent driven a manual wrangler in a while, is the shift pattern that stupid? not technically but chrysler is incapable of making a not sloppy shifter also, are jeeps these days 6 speeds?
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Jul 12, 2018 22:24
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madeintaipei posted:It brought me down to $670/six months, if that's what you're asking. Ha ha, god no I don't. Hell I couldn't sleep at night with that one. I just like hearing and learning from folks on their experiences. Thank you for being candid in you response. Ever try State Farm? edit: Hell, as soon as I posted this it sounds like some insurance agent crap.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:29
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FWIW I switched to State Farm a few years ago and haven't needed to shop around since, rates have been completely stable. We pay $350ish/6 months each on two vehicles with full coverage, and like $125 or something for liability on my beater truck.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:39
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Non-urban dwelling auto owner spotted
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Jul 12, 2018 22:49
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Extremely non-urban
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cephalopods posted:I had one of the progressive boxes and it was super annoying. It beeps after "hard braking" which for me turned out to be basically all braking in traffic or, for example, braking to turn off of a 55mph road. OBD2 is standardized so any of the monitoring devices will work with an OBD2 car.
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Jul 12, 2018 23:37
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Looks like that Jeep is equipped with baby boomer parking assist too.
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Jul 13, 2018 00:04
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dissss posted:Also the nav display always produces light even when displaying just black - fortunately it can be turned off but if it was a better quality screen it wouldn't be an issue. That's,.... how LCD's work? You've got to go to OLED in order to get a display that turns off black fields, and those are still like 2x the cost of a comparable LCD.
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Jul 13, 2018 02:14
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MikeyTsi posted:That's,.... how LCD's work? You've got to go to OLED in order to get a display that turns off black fields, and those are still like 2x the cost of a comparable LCD. Sure an LCD is never going to be ideal but there are definitely degrees of bad as far as black level goes on LCDs. Go and hold an iPad showing a black screen next to the equivalent in a car and see the difference.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:17
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When the gently caress did negotiation become 'whats the lowest youll take' loving tidepod motherfuckers
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sneakyfrog posted:i havent driven a manual wrangler in a while, is the shift pattern that stupid? It's Loss.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:52
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Memento posted:It's Loss. 
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Jul 13, 2018 03:58
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BlackMK4 posted:When the gently caress did negotiation become 'whats the lowest youll take' I would get that a lot even when they hadn't seen the items. Asking price is the lowest I'll take, fucko.
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Jul 13, 2018 04:00
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Memento posted:It's Loss. It's photoshopped, unfortunately.
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Jul 13, 2018 04:23
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BlackMK4 posted:When the gently caress did negotiation become 'whats the lowest youll take' Since the stone age.
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Jul 13, 2018 04:24
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dissss posted:Sure an LCD is never going to be ideal but there are definitely degrees of bad as far as black level goes on LCDs. They're not going to have multiple zone local dimming. A back light is critical for any non OLED LCD to work. A regular LCD has no ability to produce light on its own so there will always be some glow due to the backlight.
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Jul 13, 2018 04:32
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BlackMK4 posted:When the gently caress did negotiation become 'whats the lowest youll take' Ever since "no lowballers, I know what I have" iospace posted:It's photoshopped, unfortunately. A man can dream
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Jul 13, 2018 04:52
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Wrar posted:They're not going to have multiple zone local dimming. A back light is critical for any non OLED LCD to work. A regular LCD has no ability to produce light on its own so there will always be some glow due to the backlight. Nor (at least I'm pretty sure) does my iPad and it manages to give a much better black level than the screen in my car. I'm not looking for perfection just better than what you get now in non luxury models.
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Jul 13, 2018 05:02
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Maybe it's a regional thing, I tend to price things at $wishful and come down to $morethanhappy when they ask for my best price. They feel they won by getting me to bargain against myself and I'm still above what I'd accept from someone who knows how to bargain so win-win. I do have to admit, it's an easy way to fish to start bringing the price down.
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Jul 13, 2018 05:07
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dissss posted:Nor (at least I'm pretty sure) does my iPad and it manages to give a much better black level than the screen in my car. I'm not looking for perfection just better than what you get now in non luxury models. Finding devices that have the display quality of an iPad is difficult period
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Jul 13, 2018 05:10
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BlackMK4 posted:Finding devices that have the display quality of an iPad is difficult period I'd consider my cheap as anything Nexus 7 pretty close though so something at least as good as that should be doable.
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Jul 13, 2018 05:25
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To be fair to anyone who asks it that bluntly, I'm loving awful at negotiations over money. I can feel my skeleton trying crawl out of my own skin when I have to haggle over money, because I'm internalizing how much I don't NEED the $$ and over project that they really need that sale.
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Jul 13, 2018 05:28
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If someone asks what's the lowest you'll take ask £5 over the advertised price.
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Jul 13, 2018 06:16
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I got a message from someone offering me 50% of my asking price on the Mini I’m selling because “the car is 15 years old”. They haven’t even come to look at it. Just a straight up gently caress you offer.
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Jul 13, 2018 11:17
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cakesmith handyman posted:If someone asks what's the lowest you'll take ask £5 over the advertised price. I did this once selling a motorcycle and the guy kept emailing me afterward since I probably insulted his meth-head honor or something. I soon learned to just delete those emails or just tell them it sold already. Sometimes people are just bored and want to see how far they can haggle down something. gently caress those people.
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Jul 13, 2018 11:45
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I just saw an EG hatch with a stinger on the front. What the actual gently caress? Is Poison Spyder doing Civic parts now?
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Jul 13, 2018 12:17
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personally I do not give a single poo poo about how fast or slow someone is going on the highway, as long as they GO A CONSISTENT SPEED YOUR CRUISE CONTROL EXISTS FOR A REASON ARGHGHG
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Colostomy Bag posted:Ok, honest to god question on the nanny box, what position were you in when you accepted it? I've done it with several different companies and I've saved over 20% before
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:CA is 5k still. The idea is that by making limits lower you’ll make the insurance cheaper, resulting in fewer uninsured drivers. Never quite works out like that. If you can show financial hardship you can get a 3K policy. 
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LongDarkNight posted:If you can show financial hardship you can get a 3K policy. What's even the loving point Insurance minimums need to be like 100k at least to be worth a drat... crap like this is why UIM is so important these days.
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Legal minimum where I'm at, Manitoba with our mandatory public auto insurance  , is $200,000 for liability, $50,000 for comprehensive/collision/all perils with a max of a $500 deductible, and PIPP for all residents regardless if they have an auto policy or not. Typical costs from what I've seen is $1200-$1600 per year for most vehicles (ranging from old beaters to new economy cars) but that's with a lower deductible and higher liability coverage than the minimums. Personally I carry $7 million liability since it's cheap and I make regular trips to the US and all your stuff is insane down there. Being a government run insurance, your insurance, license, and registration are all tied together, so if you have a bad driving record you just don't get a discount on your insurance and your license costs an obscene amount to renew, the most you'll pay for your license right before you lose it can be $3020
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