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ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Vox Nihili posted:

lol if you dont want this, just lol

As long as the political assassins adhere to a consistent ideology that isn't "anarchy in the UK" I'm ok with this.

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1017477222083411968

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

As long as the political assassins adhere to a consistent ideology that isn't "anarchy in the UK" I'm ok with this.

Nothing is true, everything is permitted?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's a smoke but no fire situation. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that implicates Trump, but nothing that directly ties him to collusion the same way Nixon personally formed the plumbers. By misrepresenting facts and overblowing the real impact that any of it may have had, it's just impossible to care about any of it - unless it's an excuse for why the Democratic party doesn't have to change anything.

donny jr literally published an email that said "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump"
this is the most obvious poo poo in the world

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
whats that

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


GoluboiOgon posted:

https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/confirmation-bias/

the clinton campaign determined the structure of their entire campaign off of an algorithm called Ada. this program took a bunch of polling data, ran simulations and created a plan on where to campaign and how much resources to allocate per state. this output of this program was treated as sacred writ from everything i've heard about the election, and followed slavishly. despite this high tech system, it failed miserably and was the main reason clinton failed to campaign in the midwest.

at best, they only stole ada, and were able to use it to learn exactly where clinton was spending their money at any given moment, a pretty huge advantage

worst case scenario is they messed with the algorithm subtly, causing Ada to misallocate resources.

an alternative version of this is that the russians didn't touch the sourcecode, but were able to alter how ada allocated resources by altering input variables under their control. for instance, if ada used trump's advertising levels per state as an input, you could easily run a bunch of simulations to find the combination of advertising spending levels that minimizes funds spent by clinton in michigan and wisconsin. find the distribution of advertising inputs that does this, set those spending levels and clinton's ada algorithm will mirror your copy and pull resources away from michigan and wisconsin.

note that this would have been much less of an issue for a campaign that didn't rely 100% on unverifiable computer algorithms, and say took input from local campaign offices on how to allocate resources. always have people doing sanity checks on the results of these types of programs.

Staff in Clinton’s analytics department sit under a sign that hangs from the ceiling with the words “statistically significant” printed on it. And overnight, in some of the few hours that headquarters isn’t whirring with activity, the team’s computers run 400,000 simulations of the fall campaign in what amounts to a massive stress-test of the possibilities on Nov. 8. That way, in morning calls with senior staff, Kriegel can deliver any key findings.

One Democratic strategist, an Obama veteran with knowledge of the Clinton campaign, marveled at Kriegel’s sway in Brooklyn. “I have never seen a campaign that’s more driven by the analytics,” the strategist said. It’s not as if Kriegel’s data has ever turned around Clinton’s campaign plane; it’s that her plane almost never takes off without Kriegel’s data charting its path in the first place.

“From our schedule to our voter contact to where our organizers spend their time, almost everyone here interacts with his work and their work is influenced by his insights,” Mook said, calling Kriegel’s analyses the campaign’s “invisible guiding hand.”

:hmbol::hmbol::hmbol::hmbol::hmbol::hmbol:

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Sure, I'll process all the data to guide your campaign, but only for 10% of your donations. Ok. It says you need to keep fundraising. Yes. More fundraising.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

ThndrShk2k posted:

Also Russia having access to the ADA models does nothing for the fact that Clinton hit cruise control on her campaign robot, told her husband to shut his presidency winning mouth, and hosed off for like 6 months only to lose.

Russia didn't hack Clinton, unless that's why she kept collapsing or something

Still, if you remove the lens of partisan dichotomy and think less like a democrat, infringing on another nation's sovereignty is a big deal and very unwestphalian

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Jazerus posted:

Staff in Clinton’s analytics department sit under a sign that hangs from the ceiling with the words “statistically significant” printed on it. And overnight, in some of the few hours that headquarters isn’t whirring with activity, the team’s computers run 400,000 simulations of the fall campaign in what amounts to a massive stress-test of the possibilities on Nov. 8. That way, in morning calls with senior staff, Kriegel can deliver any key findings.

One Democratic strategist, an Obama veteran with knowledge of the Clinton campaign, marveled at Kriegel’s sway in Brooklyn. “I have never seen a campaign that’s more driven by the analytics,” the strategist said. It’s not as if Kriegel’s data has ever turned around Clinton’s campaign plane; it’s that her plane almost never takes off without Kriegel’s data charting its path in the first place.

“From our schedule to our voter contact to where our organizers spend their time, almost everyone here interacts with his work and their work is influenced by his insights,” Mook said, calling Kriegel’s analyses the campaign’s “invisible guiding hand.”

:hmbol::hmbol::hmbol::hmbol::hmbol::hmbol:

I cringe twice as hard because I remember reading that poo poo in 2016.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


sir, the algorithm is printing out results in russian again

"i'm sure it's fine"

sir the algorithm just asked me where we store hillary's emails

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The machine spirit has not been appeased

galenanorth
May 19, 2016




https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/13/house-yemen-civil-war-authorization-244868

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 07:58 on Jul 14, 2018

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
hello, there are two new rules for the suck zone:
if you are concerned citizen or whiskey juvenile and i see you post, i will probate you for 6 hours

make 'em count, boys.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

good rules imo

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/RobCinos/status/1018013321058967552

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Some motherfuckers are jealous if you've got a jawline and they want to act like it's socialism's fault.

Jazerus posted:

sir, the algorithm is printing out results in russian again

"i'm sure it's fine"

sir the algorithm just asked me where we store hillary's emails

"Ask that Romanian guy."

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

So remind me again when 'bros' became the big bad guy? I remember way back when 'bros' were the hated enemies of nerds who were taking all the video games and taking away all the cute cartoon mascots and sexy women in weird outfits and replacing them all with bald growly white men.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Ghost Leviathan posted:

'bros' were the hated enemies of nerds who were taking all the video games and taking away all the cute cartoon mascots and sexy women in weird outfits and replacing them all with bald growly white men.

Your aphorism is succinct.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Sanders up, Clintons down. Forever.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


i cannot believe the russians hacked hillary's cyberbrain and made her waste all her money trying to win texas

what won't they do???

pushpins
Sep 11, 2006


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Ghost Leviathan posted:

So remind me again when 'bros' became the big bad guy? I remember way back when 'bros' were the hated enemies of nerds who were taking all the video games and taking away all the cute cartoon mascots and sexy women in weird outfits and replacing them all with bald growly white men.

AOC only ran for congress as a social democrat because of her racist frat-bro boyfriend

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1017449780514099210

cummo getting rich off fascism

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

phasmid posted:

Your aphorism is succinct.

But now bros are sexist racist communist nerds who play disgusting video games with tits in them? At some point two groups that were meant to be antithetical somehow got merged with each other.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

That’s dialectics mutherfucjer

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Zhulik posted:

consolidarity

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Remember how Crooked Hillary was taking donations from the same sort of lobbyists?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Jazerus posted:

sir, the algorithm is printing out results in russian again

"i'm sure it's fine"

sir the algorithm just asked me where we store hillary's emails

Prints out don't campaign in Wisconsin in Cyrillic

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1018070598918942720

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



those poor young minds, warped by the terrors of communism... :ohdear:

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

Condiv posted:

i cannot believe the russians hacked hillary's cyberbrain and made her waste all her money trying to win texas

what won't they do???

no one hardly saw hillardy campaigning because she was fighting hacker demons lawnmower man- style in cyberspace

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

ThndrShk2k posted:

loving lol doubtful

Unless it was hard to hack due to mcaffee updating once or something.

Yeah, this exact same thing has come up half a dozen times since 2016 and we have the same argument each time.

Given what we know about that server, how it was run, and who was using it, there's no way they'd even be aware if they were hacked by anyone competent. And regardless that sidesteps why it was set up in the first place, which had nothing to do with security.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
that photo where she's wandered into the tiny apartment and she's afraid of being abducted into whatever the left version of hoste l is, she's not sure if she's still in cyberspace or a poor persons home

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
It's only worth bringing up again because lol at any narrative that anyone but Clinton is responsible for Donald Trump being president.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

i cant believe the russiasn got hillary to order union organizers to stop campaigning in michigan

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

comedyblissoption posted:

i cant believe the russiasn got hillary to order union organizers to stop campaigning in michigan

Well, you see, the Russians hacked her algorithm. Which I"m sure was very well documented code that had no version control in place (okay, the second part might be true) so it was easy to tell what required changing. And they successfully made the minute changes required to have her go after a couple of million extra votes in New York and California instead of actually trying to win.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
wasn’t there a news cycle where cuomo got poo poo for saying he wasn’t going to give back donations made by trump?

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Corbyn is correct of course, as we all understand. neoliberal education is psychologically bent toward a consumer lifestyle propaganda experience which first shelters kids from and then lies to the kids about the economic realities of the world we live in.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Over Easy posted:

Corbyn is correct of course, as we all understand. neoliberal education is psychologically bent toward a consumer lifestyle propaganda experience which first shelters kids from and then lies to the kids about the economic realities of the world we live in.

It’s so ingrained I already see it in my 3 year old. I have no idea how to raise a child around the core Concept of “the world is a gently caress and buying you tons of poo poo isn’t gonna make it better”

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Hahahahaha white women are insane

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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
THIS IS HOW YOU ERASE WOMEN FROM HISTORY :byodood:

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