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the galactic DA is on my rear end for your latest stunt, Saber! I need you to turn in your badge and ray gun... ...and your other ray gun
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Saber: A Star Raiders Story
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Jul 13, 2018 22:08
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Seems like a bad idea to have your gun and saber on the same side especially with it also being on the side with the wrist keyboard
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Jul 13, 2018 22:30
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Ah well, Saber Raine clearly takes place in one of the earlier periods of Galactic Swashbuckling where blasters took a full minute to reload, so it was a one-and-done weapon in any kind of tight skirmish.
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Jul 13, 2018 22:32
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Saber Raine is almost Edge Maverick level of good bad name.
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Jul 13, 2018 23:26
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Poor Casper Van Dien.
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Jul 13, 2018 23:39
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Harime Nui posted:"SABER RAINE You sonofabitch!" I am reminded of my favorite anime name, Knives Millions.
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Jul 14, 2018 06:18
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Harime Nui posted:"SABER RAINE You sonofabitch!" Yes, yes indeed
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Jul 14, 2018 07:23
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"You're GOD drat right I shot first" I hope everyone went and looked up the trailer. You're welcome.
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Jul 14, 2018 15:35
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SolarFire2 posted:Poor Casper Van Dien. Don't feel bad for Casper Van Dien. You're saying you wouldn't want to make a nice comfortable living by being in DTV schlock where you get to be like a bootleg Han Solo?
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Jul 14, 2018 15:48
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Basebf555 posted:Don't feel bad for Casper Van Dien. You're saying you wouldn't want to make a nice comfortable living by being in DTV schlock where you get to be like a bootleg Han Solo?
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Jul 14, 2018 17:21
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People are trying to roast, but a Saber Raine with decent cinematography is exactly what the Star Wars ST could and should have been. Just his ‘finishing move’ from the trailer displays more personality than we’ve seen from anyone in Rey world.
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Jul 15, 2018 03:05
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Wild Horses posted:the galactic DA is on my rear end for your latest stunt, Saber! I need you to turn in your badge and ray gun... I fuckin' wish 
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Jul 15, 2018 04:24
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On some reading, I have a hilarious realisation about Star Wars Phineas & Ferb: Darthensmirtz is basically Director Krennic, an evil scientist working for the Empire who wears a cape, had a hand in designing the Death Star and desperately seeks Darth Vader's approval and being taken seriously in general only to be repeatedly humiliated.
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Jul 15, 2018 12:05
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where the hell did smg go
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Jul 18, 2018 08:03
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He posted like three days ago?
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Jul 18, 2018 08:20
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Whenever SMG is not in the thread, someone must ask "where did SMG go?"
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Jul 18, 2018 10:44
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I almost made that post, but I stopped myself.
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Jul 18, 2018 11:04
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I wish the design aesthetic for the new movies wasn’t so mundane. Is there a single costume, vehicle, or location that doesn’t feel utterly derivative or bland?
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Jul 18, 2018 15:29
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Say what you will about the prequels, at least each movie gave us something we'd never seen before.
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Jul 18, 2018 15:31
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I miss Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs. Jewmanji posted:I wish the design aesthetic for the new movies wasn’t so mundane. Is there a single costume, vehicle, or location that doesn’t feel utterly derivative or bland?
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Jul 18, 2018 15:33
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Jewmanji posted:I wish the design aesthetic for the new movies wasn’t so mundane. Is there a single costume, vehicle, or location that doesn’t feel utterly derivative or bland? Rogue One had the U-Wing, the Profundity, and the Tie Striker. Those were primo grade star Wars in my book. The rest of the movie kind of had to be stuff from ANH because of the time period though, which is a better excuse than the ST's insistence on using the exact same stuff but with different paint jobs a generation in the future. Costume design on the other hand has been uniformly blegh. There isn't a single outfit in the new stuff that isn't generic as hell except Kylo Ren's mask and hood. The only things you would even think look unique are riffing original designs like the Stormtroopers. And the aliens are all this ugly smushed face brown pug monster.
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Jul 18, 2018 15:42
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galagazombie posted:exact same stuff but with different paint jobs Uhh...you realize that all the starfighters and whatnot have been redesigned, right? The closest one to being "just a paint job" is the new First Order TIE Fighter...but TIE fighters are kinda supposed to be like that; plus we also got the new Special Forces TIE as well.
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Jul 18, 2018 15:46
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The ships in The Force Awakens are incremental redesigns rather than all new. With the exception of Kylo Ren's shuttle, they've all got the exact same silhouettes as earlier ones, even though the details differ. Of the entirely new designs, like the stormtrooper dropship, the only one that has significant screen time is Han's big freighter.
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Jul 18, 2018 16:24
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Bongo Bill posted:The ships in The Force Awakens are incremental redesigns rather than all new. With the exception of Kylo Ren's shuttle, they've all got the exact same silhouettes as earlier ones, even though the details differ. Of the entirely new designs, like the stormtrooper dropship, the only one that has significant screen time is Han's big freighter. Even Kylo’s ship is just an imperial transport with the top fin snubbed off. And Han’s freighter looks like something out of an Alien sequel. Also jivjiov my criteria here isn’t whether there’s a new engineering under the hood according to the visual dictionary. It’s whether it looks like a TIE fighter (similar to dare I say... an imperial base looking like a Death Star) Halloween Jack posted:I miss Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs. You’re just making my point for me
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Jul 18, 2018 17:08
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Jewmanji posted:Even Kylo’s ship is just an imperial transport with the top fin snubbed off. And Han’s freighter looks like something out of an Alien sequel. The new TIEs and X-Wings look like TIEs and X-Wings because they are still TIEs and X-Wings. You don't need a supplementary reference books to see the design changes from a T-65 to a T-70 X-Wing, or the differences between a regular First Order TIE and a Special Forces TIE.
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Jul 18, 2018 17:29
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jivjov posted:The new TIEs and X-Wings look like TIEs and X-Wings because they are still TIEs and X-Wings. You don't need a supplementary reference books to see the design changes from a T-65 to a T-70 X-Wing, or the differences between a regular First Order TIE and a Special Forces TIE. Right, and the fact that the movie employed ships that are still TIEs and X-Wings, rather than ships that are something we haven't seen before, is the problem being spoken of.
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Jul 18, 2018 17:34
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jivjov posted:The new TIEs and X-Wings look like TIEs and X-Wings because they are still TIEs and X-Wings. You don't need a supplementary reference books to see the design changes from a T-65 to a T-70 X-Wing, or the differences between a regular First Order TIE and a Special Forces TIE. I apparently do require a supplementary reference book because I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve been a stupid Star Wars nerd my whole life and these supposed differences are completely foreign to me.
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Jul 18, 2018 17:47
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Star Wars fans REALLY love X-wings though. I’m not surprised they returned but I too would have liked to see new ships designs right away in TFA. Maybe we’ll get some cool new ones in 9, like how ROTJ introduced A-wings and B-wings, and TIE interceptors.
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Jul 18, 2018 19:53
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I guess I just don’t find myself responding to that Pavlovian trigger then. I’d rather have something new. If I want to watch x-wings go pew pew pew I can watch the original films. It just reeks of cynicism.
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Jul 18, 2018 20:19
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Bongo Bill posted:Right, and the fact that the movie employed ships that are still TIEs and X-Wings, rather than ships that are something we haven't seen before, is the problem being spoken of. They are new X-Wings and TIE Fighters that we haven't seen before. Before The Force Awakens, where had we seen T-70s and Special Forces TIEs? Jewmanji posted:I apparently do require a supplementary reference book because I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve been a stupid Star Wars nerd my whole life and these supposed differences are completely foreign to me. Just look at them. Maybe side by side if you must...but they're clearly very distinct
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jivjov posted:They are new X-Wings and TIE Fighters that we haven't seen before. Before The Force Awakens, where had we seen T-70s and Special Forces TIEs? If it's only by looking closely in a side-by-side comparison that differences are apparent, they're not clearly very distinct.
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Jul 18, 2018 20:33
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jivjov posted:Just look at them. Maybe side by side if you must...but they're clearly very distinct The visual difference between a T-65 and a T-70 is significantly less than between an F-14 and F-35, which have a similar gap in time, and the latter are at least semi-functional aircraft that have to conform their shape to the laws of aerodynamics. The disappointment is not that you can't tell the two apart with sufficient examination but that there's been a complete failure of creativity in presenting us with new art. But then it's the seventh movie in the series. Of course it's creatively bankrupt. It's more weird that the prequels actually have interesting design. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jul 18, 2018 |
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I can't remember who posted it, but there was a great effort post about the ship design evolution between the Republic and the Trade Federation. The design philosopies of both factions evolved into the one's through the course of the trilogy. The sleek, smooth curved Naboo fighter design was nearly full co-opted by the Trade Federation and the Trade Federation's more anglular industrial design was co-opted by the late Republic. The point is that within the span of fifteen in-universe years, you can see the drastic change in their ships and war machines. Some half a century passes between the OT and the ST and all that changes is that the engines on the X-Wings is kinda different. Maybe some blue paint.
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Jul 18, 2018 21:42
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Just gonna take this as an excuse to post some of the concept art from the prequels, but yeah the visual transformation of the Republic into the Empire is beautifully encapsulated in the design work and on screen - it's important to note that Lucas was very hands on with the art direction.     - Iain McCaig      - Doug Chiang      - Ryan Church
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Jul 18, 2018 22:14
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Does the EU explain the giant human head ruins on naboo
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Jul 18, 2018 22:43
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Yeah, Episode I is a real embarrassment of riches when it comes to design. There's no location in Star Wars that feels more fully developed than Naboo. The art-deco futurism and Italian architecture of Theed, the pure hallucinatory quality of Otoh Gunga, the Naboo ships, the costumes, the battle droids and Neimoidians, Coruscant, it's all totally wonderful. The Phantom Menace is by far the biggest departure for Lucas from a design perspective, and it utterly succeeds on that front. Not only that, but the design seems to tell a story. In the sequels, it feels very much like they decided upfront that they needed the movies to have x-wings, tie-fighters, death stars, stormtroopers, etc., and reverse engineered everything from there. What you end up with is the backflips that you see in this thread of people trying to fill in the gaps between ROTJ and TFA, and the total incoherence of things like Maz Kanata/Takodana. That concept art above of Darth Maul is testament to Lucas' ability to separate wheat from chaff.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Does the EU explain the giant human head ruins on naboo Maz used to run a truckstop there.
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It's important to note that Lucas really loved Moebius, showing he has good taste.
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Jewmanji posted:Yeah, Episode I is a real embarrassment of riches when it comes to design.
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