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Hugoon Chavez posted:If you don't like self hatred then can you really call yourself a goon? We are moving in dangerous territory here, right on the border of ironicism. Frankly, I wanna hear others start the movement before I join in.
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Jul 15, 2018 00:52
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Paladinus posted:The trick with all of this poo poo is enjoying whatever good examples of media from those subcultures you can find without making it your bloody identity, like you're still fourteen. Being part of a family or community is a good thing to have as party of your identity. Some people have extremely toxic families or no families at all. ICP explicitly and successfully set out to create a community that people with nowhere else to turn could feel like they were part of. It's not about the band or merchandise, it's about the community and acceptance and belonging. You are perhaps too lucky or privileged to really understand the need they filled for a lot of people. Of course, some assholes that don't get it and some straight up psychopaths glom on too, but that's true of basically every community.
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I like funnies https://my.mixtape.moe/dvbfep.mp4  https://my.mixtape.moe/ixbhfk.mp4  
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Milo and POTUS posted:I really hope this is actually a thing That or sticking your hands out the top and waving. Miatas are the best.
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The Bloop posted:Being part of a family or community is a good thing to have as party of your identity. There are better ways to escape poverty or abusive parents then diving into an insane community of clowns, literal or metaphorical. Those communities prey on the weak, not unlike religious cults, under the guise of acceptance and providing help. And, again, like cults, they often do provide that. I know people who overcame their drug and alcohol addiction thanks to simple cult followers, who helped them out of kindness of their hearts, but later were also instrumental in exploiting the poo poo out of them. The only real difference is that with subcultures there's rarely one charismatic authoritative leader, but even then with how subcultures work, it just means that your local subculture cells will in many cases be their own little cults. And no, believe me, I'm not 'lucky' or 'privileged'.
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Murphys Law posted:I tried enhancing it a bit. Not sure it helps much. I guess this is from yesterday but all I can see is "autism is vaccines"
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Jul 15, 2018 03:19
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Paladinus posted:There are better ways to escape poverty or abusive parents then diving into an insane community of clowns, literal or metaphorical. Those communities prey on the weak, not unlike religious cults, under the guise of acceptance and providing help. And, again, like cults, they often do provide that. I know people who overcame their drug and alcohol addiction thanks to simple cult followers, who helped them out of kindness of their hearts, but later were also instrumental in exploiting the poo poo out of them. The only real difference is that with subcultures there's rarely one charismatic authoritative leader, but even then with how subcultures work, it just means that your local subculture cells will in many cases be their own little cults. You really think subcultures and cults are the same thing? You have some deep problems.
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Jul 15, 2018 03:23
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Paladinus posted:Yes, I'm sure if you asked a goon about their identity, they would say 'im gay', and then camera zooms out and we see that the room is riddled with SA memorabilia, Zybourne Clock action figures, and the goon themselves is dressed as a giant grenade with words 'an average goon' written on it. where can i get this shirt, and is it made in xxxxl?
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Jul 15, 2018 03:30
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Milo and POTUS posted:I really hope this is actually a thing I've noticed Jeep Wrangler people always wave to each other too. Must just be a car with round lights thing.
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Jul 15, 2018 03:34
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TheNothingNew posted:That or sticking your hands out the top and waving. Miatas are the best. There’s an actual button, front and center on the dashboard just to put the lights up and down without turning them on. I miss my MX5 sometimes.
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Jul 15, 2018 05:23
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Paladinus posted:There are better ways to escape poverty or abusive parents then diving into an insane community of clowns, literal or metaphorical. Those communities prey on the weak, not unlike religious cults, under the guise of acceptance and providing help. And, again, like cults, they often do provide that. I know people who overcame their drug and alcohol addiction thanks to simple cult followers, who helped them out of kindness of their hearts, but later were also instrumental in exploiting the poo poo out of them. The only real difference is that with subcultures there's rarely one charismatic authoritative leader, but even then with how subcultures work, it just means that your local subculture cells will in many cases be their own little cults.  here?
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I think Paladinus's last post shows that they're approaching the question of the value of subcultures from a perspective that is painful, or at least upsetting. If I knew multiple people who had been exploited by cults, I would also be extremely skeptical of anything that reminded me of a cult. An important distinction between a cult or an oppressive culture, and a culture or group that is healthy and positive, is that people are free to end their association with the healthy group whenever they feel like it. I don't know much about juggalos, but I haven't heard that there's anything about them culturally that enforces people staying with the group against their wills. That is also definitely true of SA, where people quietly disappear all the time. (Insert dead gay forum joke here.)
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Jul 15, 2018 06:37
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Capitalism has annihilated, gentrified or commodified pretty much all other traditional forms of kinship, subcultures are pretty much all that's left for young people to find communities. They aren't going to disappear just because you find them silly.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Capitalism has annihilated, gentrified or commodified pretty much all other traditional forms of kinship, subcultures are pretty much all that's left for young people to find communities. They aren't going to disappear just because you find them silly. I suspect that subcultures have survived mostly because membership of subcultures tends to revolve around various depressingly consumerist behaviours. I think juggalos are actually somewhat rare in that seem to have an explicit and positive set of values that they adhere to
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https://i.imgur.com/H2OkgTC.mp4Railing Kill posted:Man, every little bit I learn about ICP makes it harder to make fun of them. Dude named his daughter (Ruby) Bruce Lee, and is just being a good dad for his goofy daughter. Supposedly, they're not too great on the gays and women though, so they've still got room to grow.
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Jul 15, 2018 07:01
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The gathering is also a consent nightmare It's s great place to go if you wanna molest a teenager
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"sicario kart"? what's the joke?
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sunken fleet posted:"sicario kart"? I think the joke is the follow-up tweet about how it takes too long and nothing really happens
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Milo and POTUS posted:Didn't get fiscal used to post here Yeah, he was fairly profilic back in the olden days.
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bike tory posted:I suspect that subcultures have survived mostly because membership of subcultures tends to revolve around various depressingly consumerist behaviours. I think juggalos are actually somewhat rare in that seem to have an explicit and positive set of values that they adhere to All of the juggalos I've met have been not normal people that had lovely childhoods or were otherwise outcasts. Otherwise they've been pretty harmless but angry at the world. Whenever you read about them it's pretty common for them to say that they'll accept anybody with nowhere else to go and treat them as family. Seems pretty harmless to me as far as weird subcultures go.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:All of the juggalos I've met have been not normal people that had lovely childhoods or were otherwise outcasts. Otherwise they've been pretty harmless but angry at the world. Whenever you read about them it's pretty common for them to say that they'll accept anybody with nowhere else to go and treat them as family. Seems pretty harmless to me as far as weird subcultures go. In a world where literal Nazis have made a comeback, I miss the innocent days when we just made fun of Juggalos.
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Jul 15, 2018 12:16
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iirc they threw trash at andrew wk so there is a dark side to them
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punchymcpunch posted:iirc they threw trash at andrew wk so there is a dark side to them Well hey, nobody's perfect.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well hey, nobody's perfect. What about Andrew wk?
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Johnny Aztec posted:Well there ya go, buddy. Looks like we know who you are voting for Can't complain about "that clown in the White House" if you vote in an actual clown
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Wendy is a socialist activist who frequently guests on Chapo Trap House and Cum Town
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loving hell, I'm digging the alternate universe 8 Mile.
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Randaconda posted:In a world where literal Nazis have made a comeback, I miss the innocent days when we just made fun of Juggalos. poo poo, I miss people making fun of otherkin poo poo. Weird as it may've been, at the end of the day it was still just people angrily typing at each other.
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RareAcumen posted:poo poo, I miss people making fun of otherkin poo poo. Weird as it may've been, at the end of the day it was still just people angrily typing at each other. Ironic that in just a couple years it'll be otherkin hiding you from gamer-fascist kill squads.
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doverhog posted:Everything I know about Juggalos I learned from these 2 videos: I miss Joe. 
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RareAcumen posted:poo poo, I miss people making fun of otherkin poo poo. Weird as it may've been, at the end of the day it was still just people angrily typing at each other. Lowtax posted a tweet apologizing to furries for how he treated them in the past as the internet has produced things several orders of magnitude worse.
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