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Jul 13, 2018 22:10
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They should have sent a poet.
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Jul 13, 2018 22:13
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anime was right posted:there is a post on reddit on the first space: yeah ive noticed this a lot as well. the cop posts are especially noticeable since there's a complete disconnect between the mood of the actual (young, relatively liberal) userbase of reddit and the reputation-management posts of cops cuddling cute animals. reddit is the most easily-astroturfable social media site and thats the secret to its success imo
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Jul 14, 2018 00:02
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah ive noticed this a lot as well. the cop posts are especially noticeable since there's a complete disconnect between the mood of the actual (young, relatively liberal) userbase of reddit and the reputation-management posts of cops cuddling cute animals. Not just your opinion. The owners literally have explained that Astroturfing to make Reddit seem more popular is how they started
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Jul 14, 2018 00:09
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anime was right posted:there is a post on reddit on the first space: link?
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Jul 14, 2018 03:03
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2pbptw/cops_playing_with_some_kittens/
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Jul 14, 2018 08:25
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https://twitter.com/RXMANSPHOENIX/status/1017496439688237070/video/1
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Jul 14, 2018 18:53
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unpaid, fight against slavery lots going on here
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Jul 14, 2018 18:56
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for real though, it's freakin' me out that matel is trying to tell young girls how to cope with depression using a CGI barbie avatar
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Jul 14, 2018 19:18
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the thing that really bugs me is everyone pretending depression just happens and isnt because our society is so hosed
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Jul 14, 2018 19:53
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got any sevens posted:the thing that really bugs me is everyone pretending depression just happens and isnt because our society is so hosed communities and supportive relationships that might prevent depression are literally worthless to capital much like the environment or anything else you can't buy or sell. If anything, crushing people into pits of despair creates more demand for mental health services and pharmaceutical remedies so our system probably incentivizes practices that leave people alienated from one another and more vulnerable to mental illnesses like depression
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Jul 14, 2018 20:04
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Marzzle posted:communities and supportive relationships that might prevent depression are literally worthless to capital much like the environment or anything else you can't buy or sell. If anything, crushing people into pits of despair creates more demand for mental health services and pharmaceutical remedies so our system probably incentivizes practices that leave people alienated from one another and more vulnerable to mental illnesses like depression lol what do you mean 'probably'
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Jul 14, 2018 22:10
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:lol what do you mean 'probably' I mean it's probably not by design, just incidental to other poo poo
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Jul 14, 2018 22:19
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Marzzle posted:communities and supportive relationships that might prevent depression are literally worthless to capital much like the environment or anything else you can't buy or sell. If anything, crushing people into pits of despair creates more demand for mental health services and pharmaceutical remedies so our system probably incentivizes practices that leave people alienated from one another and more vulnerable to mental illnesses like depression Yea, it's funny how "can't get them welfare queens off the dole" is invoked as an argument for cutting social safety nets, when red states already deem being able to work part time but NOT without medications that are unaffordable (even with ACA insurance) as 'not disabled enough' to qualify for medicaid. Depression and other mental illnesses also create a convenient scapegoat for victim-blaming to justify the existence of a perpetual underclass that deserves to suffer, because mind-breakingly awful poo poo that people have only barely survived somehow retroactively becomes their fault. Marzzle posted:I mean it's probably not by design, just incidental to other poo poo silentsnack has issued a correction as of 22:42 on Jul 14, 2018 |
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Jul 14, 2018 22:37
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there is a "humanizing cop" post making it to reddits top spot daily. people are actually catching on but this has been going on for years and they've been pushing stuff (especially in videos) using the exact same methodology that pro-fracking posts were pushed in a specific subreddits its seriously very lmao
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Jul 14, 2018 22:53
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the people who dont understand that every free product and most paid ones on the internet are 100% designed from the bottom up as advertising platforms are incredibly stupid
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Jul 14, 2018 22:56
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:lol what do you mean 'probably' Yeah pretty much. Facebook was caught selling to advertisers that they could pinpoint when a depressed teenager using their platform was the most emotionally vulnerable. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/01/facebook-advertising-data-insecure-teens They've also ran experiments against their user base on how to alter their moods. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/30/facebook-emotion-study-breached-ethical-guidelines-researchers-say
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Jul 14, 2018 23:13
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that kind of argument against facebook experimenting on their users is dumb though, since what qualifies as an "experiment" in this case is just subjecting the users to the usual poo poo they always do except they dont run the test on every single user at once
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Jul 14, 2018 23:26
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Mercrom posted:that kind of argument against facebook experimenting on their users is dumb though, since what qualifies as an "experiment" in this case is just subjecting the users to the usual poo poo they always do except they dont run the test on every single user at once the issue is the fact they did research that was completely unethical and still got to publish about it. Scientific ethics say you have to get informed consent, especially when your study might harm participants, like the facebook study did. you're correct companies do unethical research all the time but idk if that means we shouldn't be upset about it
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Jul 14, 2018 23:38
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as with most things its a matter of degree. imo launching a massive marketing campaign targeting millions of people to see if it will increase sales is less ethical than changing how a news feed works on a website for scientific research like i dont know or consent whenever google changes its search algorithm. but my consent is kinda implicit since for me google is just a black box that i willingly put words into. it doesnt matter to me if google is the same for everyone or region specific or random. it would matter if their aim was malicious of course but thats a separate issue from the act of experimentation
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Jul 15, 2018 00:17
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Mercrom posted:as with most things its a matter of degree. imo launching a massive marketing campaign targeting millions of people to see if it will increase sales is less ethical than changing how a news feed works on a website for scientific research Sure but in the context we're talking about, facebook was intentionally depriving some people of happy/positive facebook posts with the intent of seeing if it made them depressed. That's more than just changing the service in an attempt to improve it.
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Jul 15, 2018 00:24
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure but in the context we're talking about, facebook was intentionally depriving some people of happy/positive facebook posts with the intent of seeing if it made them depressed. *changes the vitamin c content of orange juice to see if it gives ppl scurvy* “it’s for science yo”
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Jul 15, 2018 00:28
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would the opposite be ok, depriving certain people of depressing news to see if they would be less impressed? if you believe there is a chance it would work, isnt it unethical to deprive everyone else of that change? i'm not denying your core argument, but i don't think this experiment actually did anything that could reasonably be described as harm. they didnt actually do anything they thought could make people genuinely depressed. if it did it would put into question the ethics of so much of our society, like the publishing of depressing news in the first place
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Jul 15, 2018 00:35
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Mercrom posted:would the opposite be ok, depriving certain people of depressing news to see if they would be less impressed? if you believe there is a chance it would work, isnt it unethical to deprive everyone else of that change? You're confusing ethics and morality. It is blatantly unethical in modern science to do any experiment that you think you might cause harms without informed consent. Facebook didn't get informed consent. And yes, thinking you might make people depressed counts as harm.
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Jul 15, 2018 00:42
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well if we are just rules lawyering i could say that you cant prove the researchers knew of any risk of their experiment causing depression. also depression has nothing to do with loving mood
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Jul 15, 2018 00:58
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Mercrom posted:well if we are just rules lawyering i could say that you cant prove the researchers knew of any risk of their experiment causing depression. also depression has nothing to do with loving mood We live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia, where even facebook has desperate white knights. quote:Some types of social scientific research, such as psychological experiments, may use deception as part of the study; in these cases, researchers may not fully describe the procedures to participants, and thus participants are not fully informed. However, researchers are required to debrief participants immediately after the experiment is concluded. Certain populations are considered to be vulnerable, and in addition to informed consent, special protections must be made available to them. These include persons who are incarcerated, pregnant women, persons with disabilities, and persons who have a mental disability. Children are considered unable to provide informed consent.
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Jul 15, 2018 01:43
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in something resembling a just society, any of the snakes should be given a minute or two to try to bargain as to why they shouldn't be sent to the guillotine if they don't make a compelling argument, they get drawn and quartered instead
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Jul 15, 2018 01:46
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so just quick poll, anyone else experienced anything like this? today I tried to type the word "suicidal" in a text on my iphone, but accidentally typed "suividal." my phone marked it as misspelled, but had "no suggestions" for replacements. so I tried every other letter in place of the v. no dice. this also happened when typing "dystopic" and "schizotypal." basically my phone doesn't seem to want to type depressing words? I'm really hoping someone who knows about predictive text will tell me it's just a quirk of some program, but admittedly it feels a bit sinister *phone corrected correctly spelled sinister into "sister did"
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Jul 15, 2018 02:26
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Mercrom posted:well if we are just rules lawyering i could say that you cant prove the researchers knew of any risk of their experiment causing depression. also depression has nothing to do with loving mood psychological experiments without informed consent is super unethical
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Jul 15, 2018 02:50
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Main Paineframe posted:psychological experiments without informed consent is super unethical and in this case it’s basically just for marketing bullshit to people slightly better. it’s not like finding the cure to cancer or anything at all worth while. It’s literally just FB playing god and cranking off a publication about it to get some ad companies rock hard to use FBs platform
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Jul 15, 2018 03:13
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its gonna be loving hysterical when people start being wistful about early cyberpunk dystopias because they become a literally better option hahahaha
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Jul 15, 2018 03:21
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:its gonna be loving hysterical when people start being wistful about early cyberpunk dystopias because they become a literally better option hahahaha this is basically every conversation about jobs between foreigners fluent in japanese already
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Jul 15, 2018 03:24
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:its gonna be loving hysterical when people start being wistful about early cyberpunk dystopias because they become a literally better option hahahaha what do you mean 'gonna be' that's pretty much yospos and the game room 24/7 already but yeah it's starting to show up on actual regular internet, and it probably would in real life if people could afford things
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Jul 15, 2018 03:44
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Mandoric posted:this is basically every conversation about jobs between foreigners fluent in japanese already what about not-yet-foreigners who are not-yet-fluent? asking 4 a friend... 
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Jul 15, 2018 03:50
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dont be mean to me posted:what do you mean 'gonna be' that's pretty much yospos and the game room 24/7 already actual cyberhell is cool because like it just seems like insane drugs are everywhere but instead we just have loving facebook and suburbs still exist
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Jul 15, 2018 04:15
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yeah like if things are gonna be this way can I at least get a cool new liver that filters super good so I can do the fun designer hyperdrugs please
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Jul 15, 2018 04:26
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turns out we replaced all the designer hyperdrugs with hydrocodone and fentanyl
Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 10:15 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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Jul 15, 2018 10:11
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if you can't find a solid brain-frier to order over the internet that's entirely because you're not really trying
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Jul 15, 2018 15:01
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https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1018501070652432384
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Jul 15, 2018 16:19
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Jul 15, 2018 16:34
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