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AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


it's illegal to date

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

GhostStalker posted:

Did you mean Yosuke here? Because he was super gay panicky about Kanji when he first showed up and joined the Investigation Team after his dungeon. There was the supposed cut gay romance that was apparently still on disc, but I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to here.

Yosuke, yeah. I read him as super closeted, honestly. the cut gay romance + his reaction to the kanji stuff + teddie literally living in his closet :v: kinda sealed that reading to me imo.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Grapplejack posted:

Yosuke, yeah. I read him as super closeted, honestly. the cut gay romance + his reaction to the kanji stuff + teddie literally living in his closet :v: kinda sealed that reading to me imo.

I've never seen that take, but thinking about it, it kinda makes sense. Probably never actually see the light of day if true given the director's seeming take on sexuality as you discussed, though.

Gantolandon
Aug 19, 2012

Overwatch Porn posted:

she's one year younger than the mc

The main problem is not her age, I think. It's the fact that Joker just rescued her from being a shut-in with vaguely suicidal tendencies and is the person who tries to introduce her back to the society. Also, he saw the inside of her mind. Romancing her may not be the best option in that case, for the same reason why therapists are expected not to romance their patients.

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!

Gantolandon posted:

The main problem is not her age, I think. It's the fact that Joker just rescued her from being a shut-in with vaguely suicidal tendencies and is the person who tries to introduce her back to the society. Also, he saw the inside of her mind. Romancing her may not be the best option in that case, for the same reason why therapists are expected not to romance their patients.

I never heard that come up, but of all our party members she has the most mental issues.

Its also the fact that the mc is living in the attic in the coffee shop that her father owns and I am fairly sure he wouldn't approve and it would make him upset, and why would you upset Sojiro?

Blue Labrador
Feb 17, 2011

Grapplejack posted:

Yosuke, yeah. I read him as super closeted, honestly. the cut gay romance + his reaction to the kanji stuff + teddie literally living in his closet :v: kinda sealed that reading to me imo.

Holy poo poo Teddie literally lives in his closet

Super closeted Yosuke just makes so much sense and at least lends nuance to his jackass moments. Plus it'd mirror Kanji's sexual-realization arc pretty nicely imo

Edit: Yeah I agree with both of the above reasons why dating her seems weird. Not only is she your sister analogue, but dating her after being her most immediate link to greater society just reeks too much of some weird-rear end dysfunctional grooming for my taste

Blue Labrador fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Jul 16, 2018

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I have decided to romance Makoto. We are now in love. That is all.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


GhostStalker posted:

I've never seen that take, but thinking about it, it kinda makes sense. Probably never actually see the light of day if true given the director's seeming take on sexuality as you discussed, though.

It is literally known that they wrote a romantic ending for Yosuke’s S-Link that spells this out and it was cut because of said director but remained in the Code.

Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jul 16, 2018

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Tbh if I'd have remembered the Doctor was an option I woulda picked her; already has a steady, reliable career focused on making the world a better place, has her own practice, able to supply you with high grade recreational pharmaceuticals, nice looking and so on.

And lol at "dating ya sister" ya drat weirdos. None of the characters there are related and don't tell me that Coffeman wouldn't make for a good father in law. You could even end up inheriting the café.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
I think it's a lot weirder that grown-rear end adult women are valid options for the high school-aged MC.

Nea
Feb 28, 2014

Funny Little Guy Aficionado.
Yeah, everyone advocating for Kawamami is a creepy fucker who's advocating a teen and a teacher date and y'all should feel ashamed of yourself, as should the persona five team for including it .

Gruckles
Mar 11, 2013

The grown-rear end adult gamers wanting to date 16 year olds are the creepy fuckers, actually.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

Coq au Nandos posted:

The correct option. Become Tokyo's biggest manwhore.

Alas, we could never surpass Sojiro's mastery of the art.

GunnerJ posted:

I think it's a lot weirder that grown-rear end adult women are valid options for the high school-aged MC.

:japan:

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Gruckles posted:

The grown-rear end adult gamers wanting to date 16 year olds are the creepy fuckers, actually.
fixed that for you

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

Arist posted:



Here’s Akechi’s finisher screen, for the record. Now, this doesn’t tell the whole story, because the lead-in animation is really something to behold:



Witness the dance of my people. What a goddamn dorkus malorkus.

There he is, my lovely boy :allears: And this isn't even the best part of him, which is by far, his voice. The voice acting for the dub, as has been mentioned, is good to great, and Akechi's actor, Robbie Daymond (according to IMDB), is very, very much on the great end because he just goes full ham for battle quotes, shouting stuff like "My skills exceed yours!" at the top of his lungs. He is taking this so seriously, and he fights with a beam pistol and an honest to goodness lightsaber- he fights, in short, exactly like the type of goober who goes outr with those clothes and haircut- goes on TV with them, in fact- and tells people not to troll him online, please. He is, in short, the best.

Also the best: the Shadows of the homeless guy and Shinya's mom; the latter because her deal is bound up in an entirely legitimate grievance with society (which really does seem to hate single mothers and actively poo poo on them), even if the way she handled it wasn't right, and the former because... well, he does have a point. He's a ridiculous, unrealistic character too, but honestly, I would feel better if we were killing these people or sending them into a coma instead of mucking about with their soul because I don't like what they're doing. The entire point is that society has failed to the point that only weird magic can help us, but I admire that our solution of changing hearts isn't portrayed as necessarily a better solution than others would. (A point which is somewhat undercut by having a Murder-Hobo make it, but such is the limitation of video games as soapbox, I guess).

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Look, I'll say it in order to stop any fighting; all waifus / hazubandos are valid.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Lord_Magmar posted:

It is literally known that they wrote a romantic ending for Yosuke’s S-Link that spells this out and it was cut because of said director but remained in the Code.

I'm so loving pissed they cut his romance, jesus god, it had the potential for some quality content.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

dating is a sin

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


which persona characters are incel and which are volcel

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Arist posted:

which persona characters are incel
mishima

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Arist posted:

which are volcel

sae

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Dating in a Persona game is an unforgivable sin. :colbert:

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

sae is like turbo nofap, she just channels it all into FINDING THE TRUTH (and yelling at makoto)

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Arist posted:

which persona characters are incel and which are volcel

In 4, we have

Incel:
Namatame
Adachi (ultimate incel)
Kanji
Yoskue
Teddie
That weird social link Mum with a toddler that isn't hers
The old lady with the dead husband, by definition
Weird sex pest teacher lady
Weird sex pest teacher lady's favourite student

Volcel:
Morooka (nofap)
Devil Nurse
The metalworker artist who sells you swords
Dojima
Igor

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Lord_Magmar posted:

It is literally known that they wrote a romantic ending for Yosuke’s S-Link that spells this out and it was cut because of said director but remained in the Code.

I know, I mentioned the cut ending for Yosuke's SL last page. I just never made the connection with him possibly being closeted.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 138: 11/6-11/7: Guardian Angel

Music: Beneath the Mask



And we’re back from Mementos, meaning that we have plenty of new Confidant opportunities!




Yep, we’re doing this. *sigh* Now that we have Kawakami at Rank 10, one of her… massages… will allow us to go out at night after exploring the Metaverse.



What!?

I did quit the maid job, but people can’t find out a teacher is seeing her student for personal reasons.

Okay, so:
  1. Uhh, you came here a while ago for your Rank 10 in plainclothes.
  2. I don’t understand how the maid thing is better for you. I’m still underage, girl, and this just ups the chance someone finds out you were working as a maid.
  3. Why do you still have that uniform!?
I can’t get found out, you know. I hope you don’t mind me dressing like this when I come help you.

Fine! Whatever! If it’s not obvious, whenever Kawakami comes to do a chore for you, she will be wearing the maid outfit. I guess they really didn’t want to swap out the model.

Music: My Homie



So? What do you think about the amount of force I’m using, Masterrr?

You have no reason to be doing that. Please stop!



Right? I’m a professional at this, after all. Huh. Your body is pretty fit. What the heck do you do to get it like this?




Ooh, looks like that was pretty effective. Oh, since you’re refreshed now, you can probably do something else before the night ends.
All right, I’m heading home. Don’t overwork yourself, OK?

Music: Beneath the Mask



Now, here’s a weird thing: When you get Kawakami to do one of the other chores for you, Sojiro leaves. But they want you to be able to hang with Sojiro after getting a massage, so he stays in that case. I guess Sojiro’s an even chiller dude than we realized because he don’t give a gently caress that we’re calling maids that look suspiciously like our homeroom teacher who he has met to his cafe’s attic followed by suspicious moaning.

Anyway, we can leave now. Let’s forget any of that just happened.



Yes. I returned all the money I took. I was charged with a lot of interest… Now I’m bankrupt. What am I going to do…?

Looks like Akitsu had that change of heart.

What are you saying, Fumio-sama…!? What happened to you!?
Well, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I can achieve what I want to here. I’m going to start over fresh. I want to contribute to society in any way I can… What are you going to do? I need to atone for everything I’ve done.
...I see. In that case, I will follow your lead.
Looks like he had a change of heart, without any issues.



Homeless Man is gone...

Music: Layer Cake




I got a call from Tsuda. I wanna tell you the details. You got some time?



Come to the back.

Music: What’s Going On?



Tsuda rang me up a while back. Told me to forget everythin’ he was threatenin’ me with. I honestly thought it was some kinda joke at first, but I ain’t seen or heard from him since. Y’know, it almost felt like I was talkin’ to the old Tsuda somehow. My sworn brother… Hey, you think a guy can really go through a drastic change that quick?




I ain’t really one to talk, but you should prolly think about takin’ this a little more seriously, kid. Anyways, somethin’ fishy is still goin’ down… but Tsuda changin’ is a real load off my shoulders. Oh, and this prolly means our deal’s through with, huh? I mean, your end of the bargain was drivin’ Tsuda away… and you did that and then some.

What, from your perspective, did I actually do?

One more thing… I know I kinda fired you n’ all, but d’you think you’d maybe wanna keep workin’ here with me? I understand kids these days have all sortsa commitments, so I get it if the answer’s gotta be no…




Just don’t go expectin’ me to make the job any easier for you, y’hear? I’ll be countin’ on you, kid. I mean, uh… Maaku.
It feels like my bond with Iwai is growing even deeper...




Disassemble ‘em and wipe the prints off before we toss ‘em though, OK? Oh, and I’m not lettin’ you leave ‘til they’re done.



I feel like helping Iwai with my work has honed my Proficiency

Maaku gains Proficiency +2.

Hey, nice work today.



--- DELETED BY ADMIN ---
Anon: they’re def guilty
Anon: can’t know w/o a trial
Anon: lol this place went to poo poo


Music: Tokyo Daylight




Homeless Man!



Yes, thank you… I started feeling ill once my memories of the past came flooding back. In exchange for a small sum of money… I did such terrible things to so many people… Was I saved by phantom thieves? It can’t be. They’re…



We need some matching Confidant Personas and we’re all out of space, so time for some fusion.

Music: Aria of the Soul



Pazuzu comes from Neko Shogun and Lachesis.



I shall become your mask. Now, let us walk together and take the reigns [sic] of this desert world.



Pazuzu is an evil spirit, god of the southwest wind who would bring famine during the dry seasons and locusts during the west. He also drives away other evil spirits, in effect protecting humans from plagues and misfortunes.



Hariti is fused from Kikuri-Hime and Thoth.



I shall become a mask of affection to guard you, like a mother watching over her weak child…



Hariti is a demoness originating from what is now Pakistan. Originally an ogress who slew human children to feed her own hundreds of offspring, Buddhist missionaries gave the legend a new twist where Gautama Buddha managed to convince her to become the protector of childbirth and children out of remorse and convert to Buddhism.

Music: Butterfly Kiss



I don’t know if fall is the season for sports, but consider your age and don’t overexert yourself. Well, I guess a kid like you doesn’t have much to worry about there…

What the gently caress’s that supposed to mean?

So, what are you here for today?



Our next stop is the clinic, because while I’m really just here to pick up more of those sweet, sweet party-wide 200 HP restores, I forgot to show off her new inventory from her Rank 10.



She now sells five new items: magic repels and physical repels, a Homunculus, which will eat an instant-kill for any party-member, and Reviv-All/Renew-All. Reviv-All will revive every party member and restore 50% health, while Renew-All will do the same, but restore 100%. They’re both exorbitantly expensive, especially the latter, and I never felt the need for them, but they’re here if you want them.

Music: Tokyo Daylight






Iwai… not ready.




Yeah! Then, come with me.

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)




When I got home, my mom cooked dinner. She made my favorite, hamburger steak! Then she admitted that she was wrong and apologized to me for getting so mad about everything. She broke down crying and told me that she’ll be a better mother from now on…




It’s all thanks to the Phantom Thieves… and you, Hamiru-san. I guess winning and losing doesn’t matter when it comes to just being happy.



Well, isn’t it true? The reason my mom was able to change is that she lost to the Phantom Thieves. Losing wasn’t the end at all. It brought my real mom back. Man, I’m so happy right now. Am I weird… for feeling happy about losing? I mean, all I cared about before was winning.




Well, you might be right… Looking back at how obsessed I was with winning, I can see I was just acting like a kid. I wanna get stronger. Strong enough so that I can protect my mom… I realized something from you and the Phantom Thieves. Instead of destroying others, protecting and saving people is what makes a person strong. You listened to my problems, and even confronted my mom for me… I-I guess that was pretty cool of you…
I feel Shinya’s brotherly affection...




I heard more rumors that he uses illegal armor. I wonder why he’s cheating…




I might’ve cheated too, if I had known how.



OK, I’m gonna head home. Hey, Hamiru-san, are the Phantom Thieves… ...Never mind! Bye!

Interacting with Shinya has made my heart grow… I feel like my Kindness has increased…

Maaku gains Kindness +3.

Let’s play again sometime!



What are the police doing!?
Do your job! You’re nothing but tax thieves!
How long are you going to let the Phantom Thieves run loose!?
This country’s done for… Someone better take responsibility!

Anon: Record-breaking evil
Anon: innocent til proven guilty


That’s not a thing in this country. I guess I appreciate the sentiment, though.

--- DELETED BY ADMIN ---
Anon: no way they’re innocent
--- DELETED BY ADMIN ---
Anon: Death penalty! Execute!


Music: Beneath the Mask




That seems somewhat sudden.
I mean, didn’t they find a calling card in Principal Kobayakawa’s office? I thought you had suggested that idea yourself, Yusuke.
That was just a generalization.
But if Mako-chan noticed what was going on with you guys, somebody else might have too.

We’re terrible at hiding this, it’s true.

So you think that “somebody else” is trying to frame us? What’s gotten into you so suddenly?



What is all of this about? It’s too soon to be jumping to conclusions like this.
Well, I was hoping to hear a professional opinion on the matter… What are your thoughts, Akechi-kun?
The possibility is not zero, but it does seem a bit unlikely.
How so?
A normal person would never do such a thing. They would have no reason to callously murder your principal.
And what if they weren’t normal?
Are you implying they kill for the sheer pleasure of it?
No, not like that. What I mean is, you need certain special abilities to navigate through that world, yes?
Ah, so you’re saying the culprit is a Persona-user.
Yes.
I see… How perceptive. Truthfully, I was considering that possibility myself. But it is still difficult to think they have ties to Shujin Academy.
Why?
There would be no motive for them to carry out such a cruel plot. Clearly our culprit is acting behind the scenes to accomplish some grand objective. He likely has accomplices. It is even possible that he is being controlled by someone.
Controlled? By whom?
If we knew that, I do not think we would be in this much trouble.
I see… So even someone like you doesn’t know, Akechi-kun.
Looks like our genius detective’s not so much of a genius after all.
Haha, harsh as always.



More importantly, we need to focus on changing Sae-san’s heart for the time being. If we cannot do that, everything we have done will be for naught. We absolutely must succeed here.
He’s right. If we get caught now, all our hard work will amount to nothing. We really have to pull this off.




The Hachiman Belt gives us high Physical resistance.



Representative Masayoshi Shido submitted his formal resignation from his current party. With many representatives on his side, the Liberal Co-Prosperity Party will be forced to split. The House of Representatives will also dissolve if the motion of non-confidence is passed…
So the House of Representatives is probably going to dissolve… We promised to do that after this plan is over, too…



Do you know how much harm they’ve caused to people? They’re terrorists, I tell you! And you can’t count on the police. It’s time for the great detective Akechi to shine!
Where has he been, anyway? I haven’t seen him on TV at all lately...

Music: Crossroads



So you won’t believe how weird the chief’s been acting! Sit down so I can give you the details!



Now, take a seat!



He said he’s been concerned for my health… which is actually kinda creepy, now that I think about it. Anyway, that’s not all. He said he’s letting me re-open my investigation into what happened to Kayo! He told me he wants me to do everything I can to pursue the truth. I think… he was serious. I wonder what happened to make him change so suddenly…?



Of course I am. It’s just… The whole thing’s too convenient. It seems a little fishy, you know? I mean, you… asked me for the chief’s name the other day, right?



*whistling innocently*
Hmmm…
Why are you giving him such a hard time? Aren’t you gonna tell him the other good news?
I… I know where Kayo is.



That was part of the chief’s apology to me. Apparently he did some investigating on his own. So, he followed up on my journalist friend’s source and… it turns out she really is alive after all.



This is incredible news… So? Where is she?

Music: Suspicion




Oh dear.

That explains why she hasn’t been able to contact me this whole time. I really wanna go see her, but to be honest… I’m afraid. I’m afraid to know the truth. Not just about Kayo’s current mental state… but about what happened to her that night too.

Understandable. Sounds like it was a thoroughly traumatic experience for all involved, especially your “partner.”




Honestly, I shouldn’t be afraid to face the truth I’ve been chasing for so long… but I am. ...I won’t let that stop me though. I’ll do this… I’m… going to go see her. No matter what happens, I need to see this through to the end. Otherwise I wouldn’t be Ichiko Ohya, journalist extraordinaire! *chuckle* I’m really glad I talked to you about this. I never would’ve made my mind up without your help. You know, you’re way more than just some high school kid. You’re almost like my guidance counselor.

...Thanks?

I can sense Ohya’s deep appreciation for me...




Everything with the chief worked out OK, but the higher-ups are still keeping an eye on me. So I’ll need you to keep the juicy tidbits coming! I can’t stop writing about the Phantom Thieves now! ...All right, let’s see what you have for me today!
I enthralled Ohya with my stories about the Phantom Thieves… I feel like my Charm has increased…

Maaku gains Charm +3.

I can't wait for next time!

Arist fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Jul 20, 2018

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009



This never gets old. :allears:

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!

gmq posted:

This never gets old. :allears:

It probably would if you were playing it, at least the first time.

Can't I get some respect you little poo poo?

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


So, as kind of weird as Kawakami’s massages are if you aren’t Dating her, they’re even more so if you are because well, she flirts with you and callls them “special”.

KDavisJr posted:

It probably would if you were playing it, at least the first time.

Can't I get some respect you little poo poo?

“You get respect when you have done something worthy of respect inmate!” - Caroline, probably.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Caroline did nothing wrong.

Also, Kawakami showing up in the maid outfit is definitely weirder than just saying that you're giving a student private tutoring or something.

ALSO, it is a scientifically proven fact that Sojiro is incapable of giving a gently caress about anything that doesn't involve coffee, chili, or Futaba.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Caroline did nothing wrong.

Also, Kawakami showing up in the maid outfit is definitely weirder than just saying that you're giving a student private tutoring or something.

ALSO, it is a scientifically proven fact that Sojiro is incapable of giving a gently caress about anything that doesn't involve coffee, chili, or Futaba.

Curry.

And yeah, just saying she giving a student private tutoring would probably be easier to explain away, but not if someone saw her doing your laundry or something like that. If the restaurant is closed and she's making coffee or curry for you, it might be easier for her to explain as well, though not by much.

lightrook
Nov 7, 2016

Pin 188

Arist posted:


I don’t know if fall is the season for sports, but consider your age and don’t overexert yourself. Well, I guess a kid like you doesn’t have much to worry about there…

What the gently caress’s that supposed to mean?


I guess she means that Maaku is young and healthy and probably won't have trouble bouncing back from minor scrapes?

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Also, Kawakami showing up in the maid outfit is definitely weirder than just saying that you're giving a student private tutoring or something.

Hell, he lives at a cafe. She could just say she was going to get a coffee if she was that worried about people asking questions.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Tenebrais posted:

Hell, he lives at a cafe. She could just say she was going to get a coffee if she was that worried about people asking questions.

Kinda hard to get a coffee at Leblanc if Sojiro closes up soon after you call her, but I guess now that you have the massage open to you and therefore can hang out with him after, like Arist mentioned in the update, the Cafe remains open so I guess it could work as an excuse for her.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jul 20, 2018

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

KDavisJr posted:

It probably would if you were playing it, at least the first time.

Can't I get some respect you little poo poo?

This is exactly why it never gets old during play.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

The repetitive voice clips in the Velvet Room do get annoying eventually, especially when you're fusing a whole bunch of stuff and constantly have some shrill little jerk yelling at you.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Doc M posted:

The repetitive voice clips in the Velvet Room do get annoying eventually, especially when you're fusing a whole bunch of stuff and constantly have some shrill little jerk yelling at you.

Not as mind numbingly bad as the sound effects got in P4 when you kept trying to find the optimal spread of inherited moves in your fusions. *plink* *plink* *blump* *repeat* Letting you pick the skills outright was a godsend added in Golden and carried on here.

Aria of the Soul is catchy though, I can't really get tired of it. I do remember I once had my TV on too loudly and was spending a bunch of time fusing things that my aunt came upstairs and asked me what was up with all the screeching from the constant vocalization.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jul 22, 2018

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 139: 11/8-11/9: I Am Become Goku



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Anon: Akechi-kun, save us!
Anon: stop shitposting lol


Music: Suspicion



What are your plans after school? Our deadline is approaching. Why don’t we go to the Palace today?



God, everyone’s on my case about this Palace poo poo just because we’re all going to jail if we don’t do it. Relaaaaaaaaax.

I see. I won’t press you… However, our opponent is serious too. We have to do something. We can’t fail this no matter what. Please bear that in mind.
*nods*

Music: So Boring



What? You’re asking if the Phantom Thieves would be given a trial if they get caught? Of course they would. All they would need to do is prove a link between the deaths and their activities. In short, they would be put on trial for murder. Hey, Hamiru. Do you know what age you have to be in order to listen in on a trial?



That’s right. There’s no age restriction to watch trials. They’re open to the public, save for juvenile crimes. In other words, you can go see one yourselves. Well, I imagine the visitors seats will be full if the Phantom Thieves were put to trial. Everyone is dying to know who exactly the culprits are and how they did it.

Maaku gains Knowledge +1.

However, their method and how it connects to the murder must be proven in order to sentence them. The methods the Phantom Thieves use far exceed human knowledge. I’d imagine in order to prove it, they’d have to catch them in the act. Hmm…
……

Music: Tokyo Daylight




First thing we’re going to do today is continue to forget to pick up Haru’s veggies visit Chihaya.





Iwai isn’t ready.




At a time like this…? I guess if that’s really what you want to do… Is this a part of your grand strategy?



Hm. I suppose it wouldn’t hurt to take things a little slower. Um, I need some help with a matter involving Eiko. Are you free?



Thank you. It’ll be nice to have you with me. Um, I want to dig up some dirt regarding Eiko’s boyfriend Tsukasa before we confront her about him. I was thinking of asking around the red-light district for info. Shall we head over there?



However, we’ll need solid proof of what he’s doing if we’re going to convince Eiko. I believe some of the promoters around here may know something. As my father always said, finding evidence takes serious legwork.

So, this is a unique event among this game’s Confidants, where we have to actually walk around with our partner and talk to NPCs. It’s brief, but there’s nothing else like this in the game, so it’s worth pointing out.




Tch… You wanna sabotage our business? I’d gladly talk some more out back if you want.
W-We should get out of here… I think it would be better if we asked someone else…



Wait… are you high schoolers?



Heh, what a good joke. You’re exactly the kind of person we like. Come right this way.



Tsukasa? Ohhh, is he a host or something? Sorry, but I’d never promote for a host club. Are you pranking me? Come on, I can’t talk to you forever. You understand?
...I take it he doesn’t know anything. We should try to look elsewhere.



For you, the glasses discount, the curly hair discount, the slouch discount, the couples discount…



Tsukasa? Sorry, we don’t have a Tsukasa discount. Mannn, it took a ton of effort to answer your question. You’ll come to my club to make up for it, right? C’monnn, you’ll get tons of discounts!
Don’t follow him! We need to work! ...I’m a little worried though. I wonder if anyone actually has info…



...You have money though? You seem like a poor young kid.

I have like 600k on me, shithead.



Tsukasa? You bastard… You a friend of his!?



He’s usin’ the sake bottle trick…? Lemme make it clear for you: Get that girl outta there. Tsukasa’s known for wreckin’ lives. He “breaks a sake bottle,” then ends up sellin’ the girls to pay it back. Same thing happened to one of my friends… Dammit!
We have proof now. ...Come on, it’s almost time for Eiko’s shift to end. Let’s wait for her in front of the shop.

Music: Suspicion



If her shift was about to end, why did she walk in from the right side of the screen instead of from the actual building?

Eiko… Your “boyfriend” is infamous around here for tricking girls into debt, then forcing them to sell themselves. Moreover, he’s probably doing it in conjunction with a criminal gang. You need to get out of there.
...You seriously came all the way here to tell me that? Ugh, get out of here, Makoto! I’ve had enough of your lying bullshit!
I have testimony from one of the promoters in the area. You’re not the first girl Tsukasa has lied to about a “broken sake bottle.” He doesn’t ask for much at first, but the interest piles up. Eventually he’ll ask you to sell your body for money. Please, reconsider this relationship.



I already have a date planned with him for today. We’re gonna stop by his club. So stay outta my way!



I came a little late after seein’ your text, but I guess you’re already here… Heyo, I know these guys. Wanna hop on over to my club with us? It’s gonna be a total blast!
They were saying some bad stuff about you, honey. Like how you get girls into debt and then force ‘em to sell themselves… They’re lying to me, right?
Huh? You believe that crap? Listen to me: Nothing like that’s happenin’ here. I’d never lie to you, princess.
It’s always “princess” with you. Why don’t you ever call her by her real name, Tsukasa? Or are there too many princesses in your life to remember?



……
Tsukasa…?
Hahaha, what’re you freakin’ out for? You just texted me, remember? I could never forget you, Makoto.



Oh shiiiiiiiit

I knew it. I’m the one who texted you. “I’ll b 5 mins late 2day, bb.” I even added tons of emojis at the end to make sure it seemed like Eiko. Admit it. Every girl you get money from is your princess, right? You can’t even remember names anymore.



Don’t you see, Eiko? This is who your “boyfriend” really is!
B-But… you tricked him! What would you know about love, huh? Tsukasa’s all I have! Just leave me alone, bitch!



drat, girl!



Music: Alleycat



You already know the truth, you just don’t want to believe it! Stop lying to yourself!



Nobody else asks me about my day, or how work is going… Nobody else treats me like I’m special… A perfect girl who lives up to everyone’s expectations could never know how I feel! Stop trying to feed me your honor student bullshit!
...This has nothing to do with being an honor student. I just can’t rest knowing there’s such evil in the world! And I drat sure won’t keep quiet while my friend has her life ruined! (to Tsukasa) As for you… apologize to Eiko! And stay away from her from now on!
Huh? You’re really startin’ to annoy me with this poo poo, you bitch…! Don’t think I’ll go easy on you ‘cause you’re a chick. I’m gonna teach you a lesson you won’t forget.

And the facade drops.





Wh-What was that, you bastard…!?




Wh-What? Dammit… I’ll remember this!



Apparently he doesn’t remember it, because that dude runs straight out of the game never to be heard from again. We’re just gonna let that dude go? No change of heart? He’s probably gonna do this again, you know. ...Whatever.



Ugh… This sucks!




Was that girl fighting with a host?
They were really going at it…





Eiko… ……




Oh hey, we ended up here. Thought this place wasn’t open during the day.




You know, I have a bad habit of acting in the moment. I can’t help but get swept up in emotion… That’s why I always have to take extra care to keep myself composed. My father was the same way… That’s not the proper way to act though. There’s no telling what would have happened if you hadn’t stepped in.



How did you ever find somewhere like this…? You know so much.




It’s hard to believe you’re really a high schooler. You have so much more life experience than me… Honestly, spending time with you and getting to know Eiko has given me a great deal to think about. There’s so much you can miss by living with your head buried between the pages of a book… I thought I knew how the world worked… but the more time I spent with you guys, the more I realized how naive I was. I see now that there are some things I need other people to teach me. ...Do you remember how Eiko said I would flunk a test about love? Well, um… I don’t know how to study that subject.

God, you’re a nerd.

...What should I do, Maaku-kun?
I should choose my words carefully...
I can’t learn about romance by myself...

Will he pick up on the subtle signs here…?



NOPE, REJECTED.



People say those kinds of things are destiny anyway, so I probably shouldn’t worry myself over it. And besides, I should at least try to focus on my schoolwork right now. Let’s work hard to achieve our goals together, Maaku-kun.
I can sense a strong bond of friendship from Makoto...

And that’s all it’ll ever be.




Heeyyyyyy, it’s my girl Lala! Stick around, why dontcha?




It’s like a nice spritz of lemon in the air. Makes me think back to when I was just a wee girl...
R-Right. Well, we should be going… Thank you again for today. I’ll see you later…

Music: Beneath the Mask




It’s definitely easier for the younger generation to win at speed shogi. Though wait, there is one exception.



I’ve been waiting for you! Can we talk?





Yes! Please sit down!

Music: What’s Going On?



The chairman turned himself in! It’s even shown up on the news!




It all happened so suddenly too. He confessed all of his crimes… The police came to question me after that, but they ultimately concluded that I’m innocent. Apparently the chairman took full responsibility for the ADP and admitted he was brainwashing all of its members. Oh, and speaking of members, some of them said they’ve stopped using the Holy Stones because of my advice. It was all the clients you sat in with, Hamiru-san! You know, I never saw this as a possible outcome in my readings. Not only have the fates of the ADP members improved, but even my own has begun to shift… It’s almost like this curse that’s followed me ever since the villagers called me a monster… has passed.




Right, I remember. Strong conviction is the only way to change fate. That reminds me, my readings told me I would accomplish my objective with the aid of the Trickster… But I’m not sure what exactly that was supposed to mean… It’s such a mystery… That aside, the ADP is finished. Nobody else will be deceived. Oh, I just realized something… Remember how I told you how the chairman knew I was a runaway? Well, I was wandering around te city with luggage at my side. Anyone could have figured that out, huh…?
*nods*



I know how fragile I was back then… but it’s still embarrassing to think I let myself believe he was a psychic! But… I guess some men are good at knowing when a woman is vulnerable. Are you one of those men, Hamiru-san…?



I don’t what you’re trying to say, and I vehemently deny it.

The truth is, there’s actually something else besides the chairman that I want to talk to you about.



This is so embarrassing…



Hmm, what an odd question. While I find the strange sexual undertones of my relationship with my homeroom teacher to be more than a little revolting, this isn’t a topic I have considered thoroughly. However, now that I set my mind to it, I find that there’s something… liberating about the idea of being with someone with more life experience than myself, however marginal the difference. It should also be noted that we as a people normalize May-December romances of the female/male persuasion, yet the opposite has been thoroughly stigmatized. I suppose there’s no harm in working to reverse that unsightly trend, now is there? So I must say that yes, if the opportunity arose I would not necessarily cast aside the possibility of dating outside of my age bracket. At least, once I come of age. I’m still seventeen, I’ll have you know, and it wouldn’t be right to begin such a relationship until then. But, this is all strictly hypothetical and I have absolutely no idea why you would ask such a question. Also, girls my age have cooties.



Sure, that’s close enough.



I-I mean, how interesting… Oh, sorry! If we have time to waste talking about nonsense like that, we have time to read fortunes, right?
I can sense a strong resolve from Chihaya...




Most importantly, the other members of the ADP are still confused as to what exactly is going on. So… I need to set things straight. This is partially my fault, after all. Right… The real battle starts now. ...It’s getting late. I should close up for today. Good night, Hamiru-san.



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Anon: 30 million yen OMG XD
Anon: that freaked me out omg
Anon: they’re running loose rn...


Music: Suspicion



Masayoshi Shido. He’s the only one. He’s the only one that can stand up for what’s right—the only one who will make good on his word. That’s the kind of person we need leading this nation, especially in times like these.
Shido leads the United Future movement, right? He was right—if we’d taken the Phantom Thieves seriously from the start, they’d be behind bars by now. Which’ll come first, do you think? Regime change or the apprehension of the Phantom Thieves?
……

Music: So Boring




It’s kinda tough to say that for sure though.
Maybe, but we can’t lose heart before we’ve even done anything. If we do that, we’ll just mess everything up, even the parts we can definitely succeed in.
Hm, you actually said something wise for once.
You wanna fight!?
You two get along so well.

Haru ships it.

Uh, how so?
That is an outrageous claim.
That’s what I should be saying!
Come on, stop it. Let’s try to keep tensions low. We’re all feeling anxious.
Even you, Makoto?
Yes. It can’t really be helped this time.
That’s not how I raised you. Get a hold of yourself, Ryuji!
Why’re you singling me out…?

Looks like tensions are high because I’m a huge dumbass who refuses to go to the loving Palace!

Music: Tokyo Daylight




Why, it’s everyone’s favorite up-and-coming politician… Masamune… Shindou! ...I’m bad with names.






Iwai’s finally ready.




Huh…? You sure we’re gonna be OK not headin’ in?



...Eh, I guess it ain’t gonna hurt gettin’ a change of pace.



C’mon, let’s go. I got something I wanna talk to you about durin’.



Aw yeah! Let’s grab some ramen after we finish trainin’ then!

Ryuji Rank 10 (I’d watch this)

Music: Sunset Bridge



By the way, the track team’s up and runnin’ again. Yamauchi got taken down pretty quick. You know Takeishi’s mom is the PTA prez, right? He told her everything. After that, she came stormin’ in with the other parents and forbid the whole scoutin’ plan. Wish I coulda seen the look on Yamauchi’s face. I mean, the school can’t ignore the PTA. And as a result, the track team’s back. Our old coach’s fillin’ in for now.



I think they might even go far in the meet.




Aw crap, the ramen’s gonna get soggy. Let’s eat!




I couldn’t stand how much they hated me. It only just made me think of how stupid I was…

And to be fair, you are very stupid.

Most of all, it made me remember how I lost my place with them. Hey, this ain’t like me, but… I managed to change ‘cause you were here helpin’ me. I got you all wrapped up in this poo poo, but you stayed with me ‘til the bitter end. ...You didn’t abandon me. So… thanks, man.



Hahaha… ...It’s funny, huh? This started out as us trainin’ for the Phantom Thieves. How’d it end up like this? Either way, it’s my turn now. If anything comes up, you tell me. I’ll help you with whatever you need.
*nods*
*nods*
I feel a strong bond with Ryuji…



Music: The Spirit




Second Awakening? Wuzzat? Eh, I’ll figure it out later.




Ryuji is probably one of the better main characters of P5, which isn’t saying as much as I’d like it to. That said, he’s a great dude and Max Mittelman plays him to perfection.



Music: Swear to My Bones

Oh poo poo, this track is killer.



That’s some nasty dandruff, bro.



Oh hey, Mr. Pirate!



Uhhhhh




Where’d the pirate go!?




OH MY GOD



Oh poo poo, it’s legendary hero of Journey to the West Sun Wukong! Wukong, also known as Seiten Taisei, is the main protagonist of that famous story. Seiten Taisei itself is a Japanese translation of the Chinese name “Qitian Dasheng” (which should be familiar for you FFXIV players this patch), a title Wukong gave to himself meaning “Equaling Heaven Great Sage.” He is also known as Son Gokuu. No, really. Journey to the West inspired a whole lot of OG Dragon Ball.

I can’t tell you much about the character of Seiten Taisei because this summary of his deeds is very long, but he got into a ton of mischief, wreaking havoc until Buddha imprisoned him under a mountain, where he remained until being saved by a monk named Xuanzang.

There’s a subtle link between Ryuji, Captain Kidd, and Seiten Taisei, and extra credit goes to the first person to tell me what it is.

Music: What’s Going On?




DUDE SHUT THE gently caress UP OH MY loving GOD

I’ll be countin’ on you, Leader. And you can count on me too! Hey, now that we’re all fueled up, wanna race to the station?



When we get our party’s ascended Personas, they learn an Evade skill that will triple their Evasion against their weaknesses. We slot in Evade Wind for Bad Beat.

While Ryuji’s stats won’t go up when he gets his second Persona, he will gain a resistance to Fire and Null Electricity.

Music: Beneath the Mask




The challenging party’s got a lot of good politicians, so their chances were slim to begin with.
Now, after the psychotic breakdown stuff, people are putting their hopes in that one party leader.
Well, right now, there isn’t anyone better. Guess you can’t blame them for hoping.



The prime minister has once again emphasized that he will protect the safety of the people. Few, however, support him. If it comes to an election, the ruling party will fight an uphill battle.
They’re at their lowest approval rating ever… Ours isn’t so great, either.



I didn’t say a word about you guys to those dumb cops!

Nice, Mishima. Next time, you might even throw in a little profanity! Or not, baby steps, whatever works for you.



By the way, I wanted to talk to you about something… Are you free?

This final rank of Mishima’s Confidant is only accessible after completing a certain number of the requests he gives you. Thanks to our most recent trip to Mementos, we have enough.



I just want to relax a bit… Let’s head over to the park.

Mishima Rank 10



How I’ve changed. For some reason, I couldn’t bring myself to run away back when I saved him. So, I was thinking why that may have been.



Honestly, I was pretty desperate at the time, so I don’t remember much…

Are you gonna talk about how you peed your pants again?

Music: Sunset Bridge

But in the back of my head, I was thinking what you would do in that situation, Hamiru. I mean, you put yourself on the line to stop Kamoshida, and probably other villains too. So, I thought there had to be something I could do myself.





I wanted to go from the dull nobody everyone messes with to the famous world-renowned hero. But you helped me realize something important. Heroes aren’t heroes because they’re famous… It’s because they fight for other people.
*nods*
Looking back on it, what I really wanted to change was the weak me. The me on the volleyball team who let wrongdoing go unpunished, even though I knew it was unjust… The cowardly me who looked the other way when people I knew were in need of help… ...Tell me the truth. I only changed because you stole my heart, right?



You think I’d still be hanging out with you if I had done that?



Is that so…? …… No, you know what? You really did change my heart.

Goddammit, Mishima, take the win.

All this time, I’ve been looking up to the Phantom Thieves, pretending to be a collaborator… And now I’m finally able to stop pretending… Truth be told, I had given up. I accepted that I was a zero… That my existence was meaningless. But I’ve learned. I may not be able to change the world, but I can change myself. Whether I sulk about my inability to do anything, or hang my head high and look to the future… My perception shapes the boundaries of my world. It all comes down to what’s inside my heart.
*nods*

Wow, man. That was almost deep.

I might still mess up every so often, but as long as you’re here, I’ll be able to stand up again. So I may not be the best person around, but you can feel free to rely on me at least sometimes! And… no matter what the world says, I’ll be rooting for you… just like you were for me!




Music: The Spirit




And we finally get the ultimate prize of Mishima’s Confidant, full experience for backup party members. It’s not that great since the experience scaling in their favor is rather generous anyway and so they’re never too far behind, but it’s still nice.



Mishima is… complicated. Not a great person, but ultimately not a terrible one either. Probably one of the most realistically-written characters in the game, including all the ways in which he’s kind of lovely. He’s voiced by Sean Chiplock, who voiced Subaru in Re: Zero, Santa in that remake of 999, Revali in Breath of the Wild, and he was also Replacement Liam O’Brien in SMTIV: Apocalypse.



Music: Sunset Bridge



That’s all I can really do for you right now… But I’m working on that documentary too. I even plan on making it into a book someday. I’d bet anyone who reads about the Phantom Thieves would find the hidden courage within themselves. Maybe that means I can use that book to change people’s hearts!



All right, I’m on it! Oh, but before that… I’m hungry. Come on, let’s grab a bite to eat on the way home. Maybe a buffet…? Wait, no. We should save that for after I get all my book royalties! Heheh, you’d better be looking forward to it!

Bye, Mishima. You were… interesting.

Arist fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jul 21, 2018

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

Mishima is one of my favorite confidants because you don't need any points to rank him up. So you can just dunk on him non-stop and it doesn't hurt your progress

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Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Mishima reminds me of a lot of my friends from highschool: socially inept nerds who were desperate to make something of themselves, but had no idea how and often wound up doing some pretty messed up stuff in an attempt to be cool or mature. It's nice to see him get his life together - it reminds me of the people who had moments of self-realization and stopped being lovely because of it.

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