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Sperglord Actual posted:It also has great maneuverability for those sick torpedo beat montages. One time when the Fubuki was still t8 I dodged its entire load at less than 2km with a Warspite. I bet he was pissed.
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Loky11 posted:So I spent the last 3 days turbo grinding the Gearing legendary upgrade for the 5.6 concealment, mostly for CW...
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The final bit, 40K base XP. You're already hating the boat and now have to play 35 or so games to get the final bit.
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Loky11 posted:The final bit, 40K base XP. You're already hating the boat and now have to play 35 or so games to get the final bit.
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cheese posted:Did you run fletcher torps? I'm trying to make them work but its hard with all the radar. Yeah, for randoms, Fletcher torps are the way to go. Quick reload is a bigger advantage over range, since it's a hybrid DD and leans gunboat. When AR kicks in, it gets nasty.
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Did my first operation yesterday after getting the Cleveland (and of course it had swapped from cherry blossom to aegis, good thing I have my Pensacola!) Five starred it with the escape ships barely taking any damage and we only lost ships doing dumb things smartly (I think.) I died going after the Ryujo carrier that spawned closest to the NE spawn of ships but I took it's first full salvo of torps and dive bombers before I got chewed to pieces. So hooray for a free day of premium and my first ten point captain 
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Der Shovel posted:So, the Warspite is 50% off today as part of the summer sale. Is the bote any good at all? For 12 euros I think she's worth a punt. The Warspite is good, but it's a T6 battleship and unless you are a masochist you will never want to play it because the matchmaking is so rear end. Handy to have if T6 ranked rolls around again though.
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Daily reminder that in a better world the 'Plays Poorly' report would eventually ban players  Those were our only two dd's in a t9 game, by the way.
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DonkeyHotay posted:Daily reminder that in a better world the 'Plays Poorly' report would eventually ban players DonkeyHotay posted:
 New damage record for me. I know its not that amazing but I just really, really love this ship. Yueyang is capable of having great games with just its gun (I've had 100k+ wins without torp hits) and capable of having great games with just its torps - whenever you manage to do both, the sky is the limit.  Shout out to the Henri IV team mate. We communicated in chat and won when it was just us against 5 enemy ships. He went bow in to a cap fight against a Mino and Zao and somehow just absolutely wrecked them both.
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Premium or not, there's no way the Massachusetts is not going to get nerfed. If you can isolate them in range of your secondaries it is just an automatic "I win" against any equal tier or any two lower tier ships.
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So far, (luckily) every chewie i've played against has been of the mouth-breathing variety, sitting at max range and doing nothing. Divved up with a bloke who has a 19pnt cap on one over the weekend and actually knows what he's doing... sweet jesus, the consistent damage that ship can knock out is terrifying. I dont want to spend $100 on this game, the only time i throw money at this thing is for xmas crates but god drat is it tempting.
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DonkeyHotay posted:Premium or not, there's no way the Massachusetts is not going to get nerfed. If you can isolate them in range of your secondaries it is just an automatic "I win" against any equal tier or any two lower tier ships. cheese fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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DonkeyHotay posted:Premium or not, there's no way the Massachusetts is not going to get nerfed. If you can isolate them in range of your secondaries it is just an automatic "I win" against any equal tier or any two lower tier ships. i really doubt it, as the secondary playstyle ships are also victims to an HE or DD heavy meta. Masses getting in to range to use secondaries is also getting into range of being easily torped by most DDs, and in the "REALLY SCARY" zone of getting assblastered by an Asashio.
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Is the Worcester any good? I'm kinda tempted to ragesell my Cleveland because every time I play it I remember the old Cleve and feel sad, bad and mad.
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The rooster is a fine ship. FreeXP the Seattle because it is an immense amount of arse.
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DonkeyHotay posted:Premium or not, there's no way the Massachusetts is not going to get nerfed. If you can isolate them in range of your secondaries it is just an automatic "I win" against any equal tier or any two lower tier ships. Nah, at tier 8 you see too many tier 10 games to really have that much of a global impact and even pubbies will start to understand the innate weakness of the Massa over time. You have to give up a lot for the secondary build, which is also the only viable build for this ship. You can get HE spammed to death rather easily and you don't have the extra 4 points for fire prevention, the ship only works thanks to the 50% heal. And while the fire rate of the 5" guns is fantastic, they don't do that much against certain targets:  They never nerf premiums, since it would ruin their business model. In a worst case scenario the Massa is removed from the store and becomes a Xmas/Super container exclusive, like the Gremy, Kamikaze, Nikolai and so on....but I doubt it, the ship is not in the same league as the aforementioned. Hammerstein fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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They also seem to be using it as part of a big push for people to get back in to the game. I've got an ancient barely played on SEA account, recently got an e-mail offer of 7day Massa rental, 8mil credits, supercontainer, camos, flags and 100k fxp. Giving out broken ships is part of their business model, hell, it worked on me when they dropped a Giulio Cesare into my NA account a year back.
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gently caress it, I sold my Cleveland. T8 matchmaking is a miserable nightmare for a low range unarmored cruiser and I'd rather spend my free xp on a Nelson than a Woooooster. At least now I have the credits to fully outfit my Roon, a ship that doesn't explode when someone looks at it.
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bloom posted:gently caress it, I sold my Cleveland. T8 matchmaking is a miserable nightmare for a low range unarmored cruiser and I'd rather spend my free xp on a Nelson than a Woooooster. At least now I have the credits to fully outfit my Roon, a ship that doesn't explode when someone looks at it. I did like 60% of the grind doing the cherry blossom missions. I still have some grind to go, but I will only play it divving up with a DD, I think.
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bloom posted:gently caress it, I sold my Cleveland. T8 matchmaking is a miserable nightmare for a low range unarmored cruiser and I'd rather spend my free xp on a Nelson than a Woooooster. At least now I have the credits to fully outfit my Roon, a ship that doesn't explode when someone looks at it. You hug the island. You hug the island like they are your waifu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF3x0aeoPhc&t=32s Applies to all USN CLs really.
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bloom posted:Is the Worcester any good? I'm kinda tempted to ragesell my Cleveland because every time I play it I remember the old Cleve and feel sad, bad and mad.
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EU is having a summer sale again, but this year they've changed the rules so that if you already own the ship you only get the sale value in doubloons. I guess in some ways that's good, because it completely frees me of any impulse to spend any money.
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I wish warbotes, much like its chief competitor, had a high realism version of the game. Of course, you’d have to completely remove consumables, fully model the ships, and teach people that 2/3rds of the 2 hour long matches were maneuvering for position is fun.
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I wish WT didn't require you to research basic poo poo like damage control parties and AP ammo because if they changed that I'd be so ready to switch over to Gaijin.
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bloom posted:I wish WT didn't require you to research basic poo poo like damage control parties and AP ammo because if they changed that I'd be so ready to switch over to Gaijin. WT's grind is absolutely mind fuckingly horrible once you get to the high tier stuff. Talking having to play potentially dozens of games just so you can put out fires and repair your loving tracks on a T-64. Imagine if there was a 10k XP module in WoWs that was required for you to put out floods and if you ever ate a flood before you had it unlocked, it was just a guaranteed death.
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As I understand it (with the acknowledgement it is still in beta), at least some of the WT naval stuff is also hilariously unbalanced, with boats like some AA barge massacring everything in its tier bracket. And yes, hell grinds to nonsensically research basic poo poo like putting out fire/flooding so it isn't a guaranteed kill on you.
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Lord Koth posted:As I understand it (with the acknowledgement it is still in beta), at least some of the WT naval stuff is also hilariously unbalanced, with boats like some AA barge massacring everything in its tier bracket. And yes, hell grinds to nonsensically research basic poo poo like putting out fire/flooding so it isn't a guaranteed kill on you. That sounds a lot like the tank mode, sounds like they never learned. AA trucks in low tier tank mode pretty much just annihilate anything they point at too, so it's probably going to stay.
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I don't understand the appeal of WT botes at all. It's like the least engaging gameplay I've ever seen in my life, it looks awful (some of the models are good, but the lighting and texture mapping are legit early 2000's quality), and for a game that supposedly hangs it hat on "realism" it has questionable features like nonstop spawn camping, and a tiny raft with a bunch of AA flak guns obliterating everything it sees.
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toadee posted:You hug the island. You hug the island like they are your waifu. This. The main problem I have in my Cleveland in tier 10 matches at the moment is that it's only got the captain that came with it so my captain skills are woefully behind on where they should be. I fully kitted it out with modules though and I can hunt DD's (10.6 km detection range + 9km radar = HOUND DAWG), punish other light cruisers (got into knife fighting range with an Edinburgh on a cap and shot his citadel to pieces) and rain fire down on everything from behind cover with the only problem being shatters against BB superstructures. I learned a bunch watching the replay's Jingles put out and slow grinding through the Pheonix/Omaha cemented those lessons in US CL's. I also got decent at dodging fire for when I have to turn tail and run away 
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toadee posted:I don't understand the appeal of WT botes at all. It's like the least engaging gameplay I've ever seen in my life, it looks awful (some of the models are good, but the lighting and texture mapping are legit early 2000's quality), and for a game that supposedly hangs it hat on "realism" it has questionable features like nonstop spawn camping, and a tiny raft with a bunch of AA flak guns obliterating everything it sees. whose to say that a bunch of flak guns wouldn't gently caress up a PT boat 
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toadee posted:I don't understand the appeal of WT botes at all. It's like the least engaging gameplay I've ever seen in my life, it looks awful (some of the models are good, but the lighting and texture mapping are legit early 2000's quality), and for a game that supposedly hangs it hat on "realism" it has questionable features like nonstop spawn camping, and a tiny raft with a bunch of AA flak guns obliterating everything it sees. Lets be honest, a 20mm flak gun would probably gently caress up a PT boat, and that little boat has a ton of them. But yeah, WT boats looks pretty to watch, but I can sense the horrible mechanics underneath just ready to strike. And the grind. OH THE GRIND
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Hazdoc posted:Lets be honest, a 20mm flak gun would probably gently caress up a PT boat, and that little boat has a ton of them. But yeah, WT boats looks pretty to watch, but I can sense the horrible mechanics underneath just ready to strike. And the grind. OH THE GRIND Can someone explain why it looks pretty to watch? I feel like Im living in bizarro world. The game looks worse to me than some titles from 10 years ago. It certainly looks worse than World of Warships does, to me at least. What is it that looks good to people?
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toadee posted:I don't understand the appeal of WT botes at all. It's like the least engaging gameplay I've ever seen in my life, it looks awful (some of the models are good, but the lighting and texture mapping are legit early 2000's quality), and for a game that supposedly hangs it hat on "realism" it has questionable features like nonstop spawn camping, and a tiny raft with a bunch of AA flak guns obliterating everything it sees. The insane thing is that from the very earliest WT had giant combined arms maps that they have never managed to tie into a compelling multi mode. Tank RB (with planes) is still on a tiny scale, and it looks like boats isn't going to change that either.
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Yes. War Thunder.
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cheese posted:WT's grind is absolutely mind fuckingly horrible once you get to the high tier stuff. Talking having to play potentially dozens of games just so you can put out fires and repair your loving tracks on a T-64. Imagine if there was a 10k XP module in WoWs that was required for you to put out floods and if you ever ate a flood before you had it unlocked, it was just a guaranteed death. Yeah, the grind combined with spawn camping and balance issues was what drove me away from WT tanks back in the day. It's a shame to see they apparently haven't made any effort to improve on those things in the years since.
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bloom posted:Yeah, the grind combined with spawn camping and balance issues was what drove me away from WT tanks back in the day. It's a shame to see they apparently haven't made any effort to improve on those things in the years since. Yeah, I can't stand WoT's diceroll type stuff but WT seems to be too focused on shoehorning stuff into an existing BR scale, based largely on when something was designed, without adjusting anything else so you end up with something like the Sherman line being stupidly good at tier but outmatched drastically (by the soviets mainly, less so by the nazis) when uptiered because almost no design bureau would design an inferior tank in response to one that shithoused their current arsenal. The exception is of course the nazis because they kept building crippling flaws into their tanks
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