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How steep is the XP scaling anyway? Like if you switch around your party and do all eight stories as you go, how far overleveled is your main character likely to get? Does XP required scale pretty steeply so eventually you'll be like 10 levels higher but not crazy, or is it relatively shallow and your main character's level will go nuts?
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Flavahbeast posted:The cleric in town will give you that quest. It's good to know that you can complete quests without talking to the quest giver though, maybe beating up every npc at least once is the way to go Its mostly just flavor. Like how in Bolderfall you can steal all the weapons from the would-be revolutionaries and turn them in to the guard or get the plans for a new project from a noble and turn it into the revolutionaries to sabotage it. Another one I found is one where this lady doesn't want to marry a guy who keeps asking her because he seems weak. So you can either recruit his mom to drag him back home or pick a fight with him and lose so the lady sees he's actually strong and cool and marries him.
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Jul 17, 2018 18:04
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Lord Ephraim posted:100x exp is one hell of a drug Lol holy poo poo how is that even possible. Brb putting prim in my group right now.
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Jul 17, 2018 18:05
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IcePhoenix posted:Dancer is a good example since you unlock a passive SP regen for I think 130 JP? It's real good! And a counterattack for Olberic which would be pretty good
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Jul 17, 2018 18:12
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someone awful. posted:Now pay the skill slot tax and get the Warrior skill that lets you break the damage cap That's the next thing I'm going to unlock. I need about 3k more jp to do so, though. Olberic's working on his divine skill too and I'll be curious to see how much harder it hits than the merchant's 30k cost summon (i'm assuming it hits much harder). Also found a hasty helm recently. It's weaker than the oasis hat Therion's using but it gives something like +80 speed so I'm thinking I might use it anyways. Frankston posted:Lol holy poo poo how is that even possible. Brb putting prim in my group right now. The 100x exp dance effect is probably a 0.1% chance of triggering. Even 2x or 5x exp are real uncommon for me.
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Jul 17, 2018 18:22
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Evil Fluffy posted:
Yeah and farming for it can be dangerous in boss fights since a really common dance result is 'Lost all your items' which makes you lose access to the item/concoct commands for the rest of the battle. It absolutely fucks up any panic buttons you have.
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Jul 17, 2018 18:31
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Holy lmao, losing your items doesn't let you concoct either? That's a real harsh blow to specifically Alfyn for no good reason, but at least it's consistent 
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Jul 17, 2018 18:37
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I'm a child and I think the peak of humor is the fact there are items named Slippery Nut and Fortifying Nut in the game. Good thing I also have decision paralysis, and will thus hang on to these until the end of the game.
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Jul 17, 2018 18:42
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How do you stock up on concoct ingredients?
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Jul 17, 2018 18:43
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Zore posted:Yeah and farming for it can be dangerous in boss fights since a really common dance result is 'Lost all your items' which makes you lose access to the item/concoct commands for the rest of the battle. The boss of Alfyn's chapter 2 probably took me about 5 times longer than it should have because I got the mists that silence your party for 3-4 turns in each of my first three sets (I only use the dance at max boost)
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Jul 17, 2018 18:51
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Dang, did you guys know that the first letter of each character's name spells out Octopath?
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Jul 17, 2018 19:02
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404notfound posted:How do you stock up on concoct ingredients? You can buy them from most provisioners I think? If nothing else you can buy/steal from NPCs with Tressa/Therion's path actions.
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Jul 17, 2018 19:08
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fadam posted:Dang, did you guys know that the first letter of each character's name spells out Octopath? How about that? There aren't enough FF7 character names beginning with vowels to do a similar trick with their names. 🙁
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Jul 17, 2018 19:09
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Wildtortilla posted:There aren't enough FF7 character names beginning with vowels to do a similar trick with their names. 🙁 Yeah, cbtaryccv traveler doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Jul 17, 2018 19:23
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Wildtortilla posted:How about that? Cavy CRT BC Traveler isn't that much worse than "Octopath" tbh
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Jul 17, 2018 19:25
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IcePhoenix posted:Dancer is a good example since you unlock a passive SP regen for I think 130 JP? It's real good! 1630, alas. But still a very strong early target for a passive skill, especially on Scholars.
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Jul 17, 2018 19:43
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RoboCicero posted:I'm a child and I think the peak of humor is the fact there are items named Slippery Nut and Fortifying Nut in the game. Wait until you see the BOFA squirrels
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Jul 17, 2018 19:47
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Cyrus is deleting bosses and it feels mildly unfair
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Jul 17, 2018 19:51
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Finished up Alfyn's Chapter 1, and am heading back to Sunshade just to complete the loop for the heck of it. Regarding the subjob shrines (not the bonus job ones, the normal job ones), where are they relative to the characters who have the corresponding main job? For example, is the Dancer shrine close to Primrose's starting area, or is it on the opposite side of the initial loop?
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Jul 17, 2018 20:26
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W.T. Fits posted:Finished up Alfyn's Chapter 1, and am heading back to Sunshade just to complete the loop for the heck of it. They're more or less right outside the chapter 1 zones and you should totally go pick them up! Look for a weird symbol on your radar, like three pillars.
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Jul 17, 2018 20:28
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Each subjob shrine is in the same area as the character (so Dancer is in the desert, Apothacary in the riverlands, etc) if you work your way further in that particular region. If you have any doubts you can look at the radar and you should see an icon that looks like 3 pillars that indicates the shrine in the area. It's absolutely worth making a lap around the world and grabbing all of the initial shrines because being able to subjob everyone really gives you a ton of options and busts the game open a good deal.
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Jul 17, 2018 20:29
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I just did Alfyn's chapter 2 and he really is on the quest to be the goodest boy isn't he. That was adorable and I love my cinnamon roll teammate  Even grown-ups need a good cry from time to time 
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Jul 17, 2018 20:36
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Folt The Bolt posted:It's much simpler than you think it is, the Rune attacks go off of the Elemental Attack stat, and Cyrus has one of the highest Elemental Attacks there is. Imbuing himself with any of the Runes work really well and he can hit the damage cap with a good elemental attack-boosting weapon. As such, with no physical attack skills in his skillset, Runelord Cyrus only really concerns himself with boosting his Elemental Attack as high as he possibly can, making him one of the best single-target DPS Runelords. Another favorite is to have the Runelord on someone else and have Cyrus in the Sorcerer class. The Sorcerer class has a physical weapon skill that goes off of your equipped Staff called Elemental Bane that decreases the elemental defense of any enemies hit by it, so using Transfer Rune to pass on a Rune of your choice to Cyrus and then using that skill easily hits the damage cap and then some, especially if you broke the enemy beforehand. That would probably be a powerful combo. The problem is you're devoting two characters across two turns to do it. You can easily get the same results on one character and one turn, thus letting all four of your people devote themselves to full bore crazy damage. The only benefit from a setup like this is you could roll over the effects and exploit them in a third turn, but that's depending upon the fact that you have the ability to do it and aren't busy healing/recovering and it's also dependent upon bringing a third character or dumping items to give BP, which means you're running out of items or adding a third character to the mix who isn't doing their own massive damage ability.
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Jul 17, 2018 20:41
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The main limiting factor to my party's setup is how only a couple travelers manage to look less bland than my guided npc when subbed as merchant. H'aanit, Therion, Ophilia for team "Looks Cool as Every Job". I am surprised at how much I'm enjoying this game. I love that the only things to hold you back are your own wit and whimsy.
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Jul 17, 2018 21:37
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Each subjob shrine is in the same area as the character (so Dancer is in the desert, Apothacary in the riverlands, etc) if you work your way further in that particular region. Thank you, this is the information I was looking for; I knew from earlier posts in the thread what the icon was going to look like when I eventually set out for them (because I'm definitely planning on unlocking them all before I start working on people's Chapter 2s). Now comes to decision paralysis of what team to run and what subjobs to start them off in.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:25
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I kinda wonder what the "intended" way of playing is because I just did my fourth Chapter 2 and the last couple of them have been extremely easy to the point where I don't even need to break enemies to kill them. The last boss I fought did like 30 damage per attack to my 2k HP heroes. I could go on to do chapter 3s for a couple of characters, but then the remaining chapter 2s would be even easier. There's just no way to get around it is there? It's a shame because the combat is genuinely fun and challenging when I'm not outleveling it by 20 levels 
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Jul 17, 2018 22:28
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This game, like it's ancient predecessors, is meant to be shattered into a million pieces in the most glorious way possible. Embrace the power friend.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:31
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Your Computer posted:I kinda wonder what the "intended" way of playing is because I just did my fourth Chapter 2 and the last couple of them have been extremely easy to the point where I don't even need to break enemies to kill them. The last boss I fought did like 30 damage per attack to my 2k HP heroes. gonna go out on a limb and say poop socking ruins games like these. I'm on my 4th Chap 2 and I'm right at the level requirement. or just be overleveled like literally every other jrpg we played since the 90's. not exactly sure whats surprising about either of these.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:32
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I'm assuming Theron's SP thief drops off quick, because it's been my main damage dealer since it's a natural two hit and basically is free.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:34
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Your Computer posted:I kinda wonder what the "intended" way of playing is because I just did my fourth Chapter 2 and the last couple of them have been extremely easy to the point where I don't even need to break enemies to kill them. The last boss I fought did like 30 damage per attack to my 2k HP heroes. I almost feel like each Chapter is supposed to be done with your characters roughly 5 - 10 levels lower than the suggestion. Unless you really get caught off guard, the break system allows you to handle most combat pretty easily. Then you factor in overgrinding and using the path actions to steal/purchase endgame items before Chapter 2 and it is pretty easy to abuse. I'll be curious to see how things play out down the line where people start doing one or two character playthroughs. Maker Of Shoes posted:gonna go out on a limb and say poop socking ruins games like these. I'm on my 4th Chap 2 and I'm right at the level requirement. Exactly, the game is almost more designed to be played through 8 different times by people riding the train to work each day, not smashed in a 50 hour weekend.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:34
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It would be interesting to see how viable it is to do single story playthroughs where you take one character and only do their story without recruiting anyone. Monopath Traveler.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:36
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I already plan to attempt a solo run after I finish this current one, whenever that is. I imagine it's going to be crazy difficult breaking some of the more challenging foes, and I imagine a lot of combat will come down to which subclass you bring with you to get as much breakage as possible.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:38
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Maker Of Shoes posted:gonna go out on a limb and say poop socking ruins games like these. I'm on my 4th Chap 2 and I'm right at the level requirement. Who said anything about poopsocking? I've been going through the content as I come across it, doing dungeons and having a great time. Even before I found the Cait duo I was a good 10+ levels above the recommended level for the second chapters. e: like I legitimately have no idea how you'd be at the fourth chapter 2 at level 20-ish. I'm 40-ish and haven't gone out of my way to get overpowered in any way (and I never did any savescum stealing either)
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Jul 17, 2018 22:40
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someone awful. posted:It uses the highest equipped weapon you have for the calculation, you don't have to manually swap This makes those arcane-alike weapons make a lot more sense. On my phys attackers I feel like I want to have one weapon slot devoted to those oddball axes/lances that have more +elemental-- use those only for breaking shields, and have them contribute to their few casting attacks. Has anybody figured whether equipped weapons matter for phys attack specials? Like if I equip Olberic with his lance, but use level slash sword attack, I see that the damage is sword, but what about the other stats like crit/speed/etc.?
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Your Computer posted:Who said anything about poopsocking? I've been going through the content as I come across it, doing dungeons and having a great time. Even before I found the Cait duo I was a good 10+ levels above the recommended level for the second chapters. so have i and i'm sitting right at lvl rq for these so i dunno what to tell you. 
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Jul 17, 2018 22:41
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Maker Of Shoes posted:so have i and i'm sitting right at lvl rq for these so i dunno what to tell you. Have you been running away from all the random encounters maybe? I've even been using the ability that reduces the number of random battles because Tressa was close to 30 before I even finished my first chapter 2 (hers)
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Jul 17, 2018 22:44
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Equip some weaker gear.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:45
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Your Computer posted:Have you been running away from all the random encounters maybe? no on both. i actually came out of all chap 1 story at like level 16ish and with the first chap being 21 i had to farm for a few hours to even get to 20 on 4 people let alone 8. e: putting on crappy gear is pretty good advice
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Jul 17, 2018 22:47
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Your Computer posted:Have you been running away from all the random encounters maybe? Are you that far above the level on all your characters or just the main party?
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Does anyone know what stat and/or weapon Bifelgan's Bounty scales off of? or does it scale with anything? the description just calls it a "non-elemental attack"
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