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thechalkoutline posted:It'd also be competing against the Genesis G70, which is in the whole Stinger terrority too and has seen some favorable first looks. The G70 is directly aimed at the compact luxury segment, e.g. 3-Series, A4. The impressions do make it sound like Hyundai is starting to nail suspension tuning. And the G70 can be had with a manual, though it may not be that great.
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I know it’s comparing apples to oranges, but loving lol that a Focus RS has more power than the new top trim Supra.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Why is a big rear end sedan being compared to a two door sports car? Mainly because the original was more of a GT car, at least in the final iterations and there are only so many RWD cars to compare to. Look at it this way. The GT86 tops out at about $30k. 370z, likely the closest competitor, ranges from $33k to $46k. However, it's only a two seater. 440i with top spec engine starts at $51k and is about $55k with all the options that Toyota will likely include as standard. The M Sport styled 440i is about $58k. People are saying they can't price it the same as the BMW car it's stealing parts from, but I'm not so sure about that based on the hype around the car. I'm thinking they can price it pretty drat close to 440i. They have to have a healthy margin above the GT86 to start, but it can't go too high. So, the general range is likely going to be from high 30s to mid 50s for the full spectrum of the model range with the every checkbox limited relaunch edition one hitting the upper end.
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Honestly, if the chassis is well sorted and the interior decent, I'm a lot more interested in 260hp in the high 30s than I am in nearly 400 in the high 40s. I could see cross-shopping base models against the Miata, if it comes down to say $5k more for another 80hp. It's the niche Nissan thinks the 370Z occupies, except that the Z always seems to be less than the sum of its parts. Edit: Except it won't have a manual, so it won't really compete with the Miata at all, gently caress everyone but Mazda.
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The Miata is really one of the very few cars which should have a manual at this point, a manual in a large GT car is just stupid as hell.
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The 370z turns ten years old early next year. I don't know why Nissan keeps making them.
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incels interlinked posted:I'm just trying to imagine someone explaining they spent like $70,000 USD for a car with 'Gazoo' in the name That's one of the best parts about it 
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I think Toyota saw the six year hype buildup to the 2007 GT-R and decided to handle the Supra in a similar fashion but kind of underestimated how much of the GT-R's hype was due to it being the first global GT-R and being legitimately fast as gently caress for the price they were originally charging. It doesn't really work when all you have is a famous name and a fondly remembered 90s coupe.
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FBS posted:The 370z turns ten years old early next year. I don't know why Nissan keeps making them. They keep selling them and the profit margins are huge
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Back in 1995 the list price of the Supra Turbo was around $48k, which adjusted for inflation would be $73500 today. And that's from three years ago (inflation hasn't stopped).
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smooth jazz posted:
So let me get this straight we go from  to  to  ??? This sure doesn't feel like human progress to me.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:They keep selling them and the profit margins are huge It's basically one of 3, maybe 4, actually decent cars that Nissan makes.
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Has anyone driven the G70 yet?
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davebo posted:Fair enough. As long as one extra turn doesn't affect airflow performance I'm fine with just getting rid of rear exhaust tips being visible. I mean eventually we'll have EV's which don't have them anyway, so let's get in the habit of designing rears that look interesting without them instead of tarting up fake ones forever. The base bumper for the C-class (up to the C 200) actually doesn't have the fake exhausts but it's kind of rare to see one without some sort of appearance package.
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My '14 Mazda 3 had dual outlet exhaust but they hid it behind just a plain bumper, no fake exhaust or anything. I think that was the first car I ever noticed that on.
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TKIY posted:Has anyone driven the G70 yet? I've been trying to for the past two months. Genesis Canada has told me they won't have any manual G70's until Q3. They couldn't even give me a more exact date.
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2019 MX-5 Miata gets an additional 26hp, without any apparent fuel economy penalty. https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-mazda-miatas-big-horsepower-bump-wont-hurt-fue-1827691616
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Is it fast enough yet?
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ND miatas already seem fast as poo poo at AX events I've been to. Man, a tilt and telescope wheel in a miata, that's really neato. The NA seems like a hair shirt by comparison.
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3lbft bump in torque, so I assume all that HP is just from raising the rev limit and probably intake tuning. I'm down.
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The 3 ft/lb peak comes 600RPM earlier so that would suggest it’s making better power from 4000RPM to 7500RPM. If that assumption is true that means it’s making more power throughout and not just above the old 6800RPM redline. I’m ridiculously excited about the 2019. I was originally going to get an S2000 next year but I wasn’t crazy about that since I already owned one new back in 2007. This seems like the perfect alternative because trying to find a low mile AP2 in good shape within a 500 mile radius would be a nightmare.
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High Five to Mazda for actually adding something great to an already great car. Im excited to drive it once the 2019 is available. They could have done like some other manufactures, and just called it the 'mx-5 tS Tuned by Mazdaspeed Edition' while added some suspension tweaks and a stupid spoiler, and then called it a day. Now can you guy get going on the next mazdaspeed3 or throwing a turbo on the Cx-5 please please please.
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https://youtu.be/LWcGJTd1fI4 These guys are talking about the 2019 being way better for tall people and are giving me false hope that I might fit in a Miata for once
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I think Jakub is 6'1" so your dreams might be coming true if you're that size
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FBS posted:https://youtu.be/LWcGJTd1fI4 They're also saying the power bump isn't all that noticeable 
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People say the same thing about the 1.6 vs 1.8 NBs and I don't buy it Though obviously it's just 30 extra ponies so it's not going to blow you away. E: I guess actually watching the video would've been helpful. They measure it a second faster to 100 which is a pretty big deal, though their results are a bit suspicious because 8.2 is about how long an NB takes. prom candy posted:I think Jakub is 6'1" so your dreams might be coming true if you're that size mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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FBS posted:https://youtu.be/LWcGJTd1fI4 christ could those guys be any more canadian
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frig off
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prom candy posted:I think Jakub is 6'1" so your dreams might be coming true if you're that size I've got an inch on him so it will still be tough. If the telescoping wheel lets me lean back more then I may find enough headroom to make it work. I fit fine in the BRZ  it's not fair
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Applebees Appetizer posted:They're also saying the power bump isn't all that noticeable Given the small bump in torque down low, it sorta makes sense. If they're not revving it all the way to the limit.
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FBS posted:I fit fine in the BRZ I can't reach the upper cabinets in my kitchen, we all have our struggles
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prom candy posted:I think Jakub is 6'1" so your dreams might be coming true if you're that size FWIW I'm 5'11'' and if I hit like a bump in an RF I would hit my head on the roof, I'm also shorter torso/longer legs so over 6' is def pushing the limits it seems
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https://driving.ca/chrysler/auto-news/news/fcas-ceo-marchionne-replaced-immediately-due-to-serious-health-issuesquote:FCA's CEO Marchionne replaced immediately due to serious health issues From the FCA press release. quote:Fiat Chrysler Automobiles communicates with profound sorrow that during the course of this week unexpected complications arose while Mr. Marchionne was recovering from surgery and that these have worsened significantly in recent hours. Apparently he went in for shoulder surgery. Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:https://driving.ca/chrysler/auto-news/news/fcas-ceo-marchionne-replaced-immediately-due-to-serious-health-issues Brain dead or comatose.
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I'd go pulmonary embolism, but who knows. Tons of poo poo can go wrong after routine surgery.
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His doctor probably owned a Chrysler at some point
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CornHolio posted:His doctor probably owned a Chrysler at some point A concorde. Probably.
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RIP Italian man; alas, his body was as sturdy as the cars his company built.
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PT6A posted:RIP Italian man; alas, his body was as sturdy as the cars his company built. I don't think they'd been able to keep it out of the news if he'd spontaneously caught fire.
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