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KaosMachina posted:Yes. And them deciding to launch that nuke they have that gave them 'legitimacy'. I guess doing a horror survival comic where you're a poo poo c-list villain being hunted by a monster like Frank would make for an interesting take. But am I the only one thinking that Punisher is pretty close to probably being just "should be straight up dead for a really long time until next universe reboot"? What with how Blue Lives Matter co-opt his skull for their use, him being a NotNazi Sympathizer/assassin for them, I really don't see a point other than him being a Death Wish fantasy type character that more and more people that are racist and prejudiced hold as one of their own.
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The Punisher’s always sucked. Worse than Ben Grimm by a racist murderous mile.
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Jiro posted:I guess doing a horror survival comic where you're a poo poo c-list villain being hunted by a monster like Frank would make for an interesting take. But am I the only one thinking that Punisher is pretty close to probably being just "should be straight up dead for a really long time until next universe reboot"? What with how Blue Lives Matter co-opt his skull for their use, him being a NotNazi Sympathizer/assassin for them, I really don't see a point other than him being a Death Wish fantasy type character that more and more people that are racist and prejudiced hold as one of their own. You should really watch the Netflix show
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Hey I heard somebody say earlier that they like when Spider-Man cuts loose so here's how Spider-Man reacts to Rhino kidnapping his kid in Amazing Spider-Man - Renew Your Vows #11  
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TwoPair posted:Hey I heard somebody say earlier that they like when Spider-Man cuts loose so here's how Spider-Man reacts to Rhino kidnapping his kid in Amazing Spider-Man - Renew Your Vows #11 But... but the devil?
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KaosMachina posted:Yes. And them deciding to launch that nuke they have that gave them 'legitimacy'. Why were they even letting Scourge play poker with them in the first place. Every Scourge has been a huge dick who kills other villains.
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Taintrunner posted:You should really watch the Netflix show I have, as far as Marvel Netflix shows go I rank it above Iron Fist. Barely.
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Calaveron posted:But... but the devil? Other universe.
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Lurdiak posted:Why were they even letting Scourge play poker with them in the first place. Every Scourge has been a huge dick who kills other villains. Why do you think they throw him out of the van?
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Lurdiak posted:Why were they even letting Scourge play poker with them in the first place. Every Scourge has been a huge dick who kills other villains. He has an easy tell.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:10
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Angry violent Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man.
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I wonder if anyone in the Marvel universe has caught on that when Spider-man stops making jokes, either something is seriously wrong or it is time to run. Likely both.
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"Hello Professor Xavier, yeah could you just check to see if Peter's really mad or just mind controlled?"
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Unlucky7 posted:I wonder if anyone in the Marvel universe has caught on that when Spider-man stops making jokes, either something is seriously wrong or it is time to run. Likely both. Doc Ock did in one of the cartoons.
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Jiro posted:I have, as far as Marvel Netflix shows go I rank it above Iron Fist. Barely. lol oh for sure man
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Jul 20, 2018 08:13
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drat, he really likes Iron Fist
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So is Spidey's secret identity known in Renew Your Vows?
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Babe Magnet posted:drat, he really likes Iron Fist I liked a lot of the fight scenes! And Franken-Faramir  Plus there's a massively wide margin of quality between something like the first season of Jessica Jones and it's writing and tone vs Punisher, it's freaking night and day. You have the cream of the crop in first season Daredevil and Jessica Jones, then just slightly below that with Luke Cage and second season Daredevil then just a massive drop in quality with Punisher and another rung below that for Iron Fist.
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Supposedly Iron Fist S2 will be a lot better, as they got the fight choreographer from Black Panther doing it.
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If you want more Iron Fist, he's currently showing up in the newspaper Spider-Man strips.
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Infinitum posted:Supposedly Iron Fist S2 will be a lot better, as they got the fight choreographer from Black Panther doing it. The choreography wasn't the problem, the ax men in the hallway scene and the drunken master are examples of that. The problem is the main characters couldn't fight so the editors had to do tons of cutaways to hide that, and when that happens you don't need to know martial arts to know the actors can't fight. Plus the guy who played Iron Fist wasn't a good actor, either. Shoulda hired the guy who played the drunken master to be Iron Fist like the internet and he wanted.
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Iron Fist comes off a lot better in Luke Cage S2. They seem to have revamped his character to be "Luke's cool rich friend", though.
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Android Blues posted:So is Spidey's secret identity known in Renew Your Vows? No, but his daughter has powers and is fighting crime with him in a spider-themed costume so it's not hard for bad guys to put two and two together.
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Android Blues posted:Iron Fist comes off a lot better in Luke Cage S2. They seem to have revamped his character to be "Luke's cool rich friend", though. The choreography there was still pretty bad for him. I know you can't go all IP Man but you could at least lean on the "this guy is supposed to be a martial art master" and show off a little more technical prowess. His attittude/character seemed more light hearted and fun, which is a big improvement.
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Senju Kannon posted:The choreography wasn't the problem, the ax men in the hallway scene and the drunken master are examples of that. The problem is the main characters couldn't fight so the editors had to do tons of cutaways to hide that, and when that happens you don't need to know martial arts to know the actors can't fight. Plus the guy who played Iron Fist wasn't a good actor, either. A good fight choreographer and a good director can make crappy fighting look halfway decent. Finn Jones not knowing how to fight wouldn't have been half as big an issue if the showrunner knew how to film fights, but it's very obvious he did not. Like it's painfully clear Jones had a hoodie on in the fight with the drunken master so they could have someone else do the fighting in half the shots (hey, maybe he should wear a mask or something so they can do that all the time, like Daredevil???), but that fight still ended up looking like crap because whoever was filming and editing had no idea what they were doing.
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Infinitum posted:Supposedly Iron Fist S2 will be a lot better, as they got the fight choreographer from Black Panther doing it. The fight choreography was the literal weakest part of that movie.
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Jiro posted:I liked a lot of the fight scenes! And Franken-Faramir But the worst part, at least as it appeared to me, whenever the show got provocative or actually looked at the problems of poverty and drugs, it pulled up. It seemed to me that the writers really wanted to make sure the audience knew they were woke and on the “right side.” That was the weak play. For example, the one intro where the band is performing to Cottonmouth: as a non-black watcher, I felt uncomfortable listening to the lyrics and watching the performance/interaction between the band and Cottonmouth. Making someone with privilege feel uncomfortable without being preached at in a show theoretically about race, poverty, and related issues is a great thing, both artistically and politically. But moments like that were all too rare. I was going to argue that DD S2 needed to be ranked higher, specifically because of the Punisher, but then I remembered the hallway fight in DD S1, which is an ace in the trump suit in any discussion of these shows. e: Patrick Spens posted:The CGI rhinoceroses were the literal weakest part of that movie. Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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Infinitum posted:Supposedly Iron Fist S2 will be a lot better, as they got the fight choreographer from Black Panther doing it. If you're going to get a fight choreographer for a show about mystical chi wielding martial artists, you get someone from the Yuen Woo Ping team or you shell out the big money and get Sammo Hung to choreograph poo poo.
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punisher/jj s1 tied for first cage s2 after that it gets weird cuz like dd s2 but only the first half and cage s1 but only the first half dd s1 jj s2 defenders iron fist
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Daredevil Season 1 should be higher on that list if only because holy poo poo did Vincent D'Onofrio play the hell out of Fisk.
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The second half of DD S2 drags it down to Defenders/Iron Fist level, imo
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GrandpaPants posted:Can't let the first page of the Badass Panels thread go by without putting in the most badass of badass. still good
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Elfface posted:Doc Ock did in one of the cartoons. When Doc Ock got into Peter's body for awhile, the first time he punched somebody he took their jaw off, and he has this horrified moment when he realizes that all the years he was fighting Spidey, Spidey was holding back.
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I want the Marvel Netflix shows to be 8 episodes long
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poly and open-minded posted:I want the Marvel Netflix shows to be 8 episodes long Yeah. I slogged through LC s2 (though it ended very well and I like the hook for next season), then I watched GLOW and the difference in pacing is stark. GLOW loving moves, and it's also ~30ish minutes per ep. LC episodes are like 50 minutes at a minimum, sometimes going past an hour. Also the Netflix stuff is just so dour, MCU movies are almost all action comedies
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poly and open-minded posted:I want the Marvel Netflix shows to be 8 episodes long Like Defenders.
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Lurdiak posted:Like Defenders. Defenders was gonna suck regardless of how many episodes it was, but even the best of the Netflix Marvel shows have felt 3-4 episodes too long.
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I think the problem is more each episode is 10-20 minutes too long.
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