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So there's one level 20ish dungeon next to each starting town right? I've been trying to clear them all out before moving on to chapter 2. At this point, I have all of the chapter 1 stories done, I've cleaned out Grandport of every item on every person and done the same (for the most part) in all eight starting cities. I went to the dungeon near Ophelia's town (Hoarfrost Grotto) and killed a Jotun for a quest. Does every 20ish dungeon have a quest for a boss? I was trying to go clockwise and so I went to the dungeon near Atlasdam (The Whistlewood) and there was no boss at the end. The only dungeon I found near Rippletide was a level 40ish dungeon (Undertow Cove). Is there a level 20ish dungeon around here? And then the dungeon near Cobbleston (Untouched Sanctum) again had no boss.
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figured I'd try a chapter 2 and went for the lowest level one, which was Primrose's at level 21 or so. All my characters are level 18 to 15. It took like 25 minutes to beat the boss but I did it! Hopefully next boss won't take as long or cost me the majority of my grapes/plums haha. Still need to get Olberic. I feel like I need lots more monies because my gear probably could use an upgrade.
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Jul 20, 2018 04:52
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Just when I felt like hot poo poo one-rounding ch4 bosses in their first break I run into some fuckoff monster in a forest and get owned Guess there's a few extra things in the end game.
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Jul 20, 2018 04:58
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Welp, was on Reddit and found a spreadsheet listing all weapons, all armor, all accessories, all quests, and all zones. Super helpful! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTB8ETymokELfLd5J16Ebbl1GXFi7Hc1MB5PftFMZaq70wOn6ze-mfn5ce1k-8l7oYuOKyaNVDStZzx/pubhtml
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Jul 20, 2018 05:04
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Mordiceius posted:Welp, was on Reddit and found a spreadsheet listing all weapons, all armor, all accessories, all quests, and all zones. Super helpful! This is prettty neat. I'm also wondering if anyone's making like, a list of notable pokemon captures for haanit/npc followers from oph/prim.
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Jul 20, 2018 05:14
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Also, regarding the Nuts.quote:So, I was doing some searching and found that there were no posts on Reddit pointing to individual Nut stat gains. I went through and read some theories on how they work and found through my testing that, indeed, Nuts give stats based on a percentage of level 1 bases. With that said, I've compiled a short table with all the percentages below. Do note that (M) Nuts double the gains of regular Nuts. I cannot verify (L) nuts yet, but I would assume that they edit: quadruple gains. (Thanks u/tsarkees for verifying!)
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Jul 20, 2018 05:22
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Mordiceius posted:Welp, was on Reddit and found a spreadsheet listing all weapons, all armor, all accessories, all quests, and all zones. Super helpful! Saving this for after my first playthrough.
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Jul 20, 2018 05:35
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Sheesh (level 50 Boss Stuff) The only difference between getting wrecked by the job bosses and stepping on their faces was the support skill that lets me overheal. That and the XP I gained getting to places/stocking H'aanit's beast supply] Also: Am I doing something wrong with dance? All it does for me is either an extremely minor positive effect or it kills me. And double JP on occassion. No, literally kills me. I danced twice in a row once and got the effect that drops the party to 1HP/deals damage to the party.
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Jul 20, 2018 05:40
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It's just super random and some of us (like me  ) are less fortunate than others I guess
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Jul 20, 2018 05:43
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I've got a question, but I've haven't been reading the thread cause I wanna play this game mostly pure. Can you get items from npcs by winning duels/provoke and can they be good items?
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Jul 20, 2018 06:03
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Sam Faust posted:I've got a question, but I've haven't been reading the thread cause I wanna play this game mostly pure. Can you get items from npcs by winning duels/provoke and can they be good items? Yes
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Jul 20, 2018 06:04
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Thank you. That was a thing in the first demo and wasn't sure it made it into the final game.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:07
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Sam Faust posted:Thank you. That was a thing in the first demo and wasn't sure it made it into the final game. Drops aren't guaranteed though.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:17
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Finished up all the Chapter 1 missions and moved on to Therion's Chapter 2 and I'm just getting wrecked. Took a break and leveled my party (Ophelia, Cyrus, and that Beastmaster girl whose name is impossible) up to the recommended level 22 but I party wiped with the boss' HP in the red. Am I still under-leveled or is there some trick to this fight that I'm missing?
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Jul 20, 2018 06:35
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Sarchasm posted:Finished up all the Chapter 1 missions and moved on to Therion's Chapter 2 and I'm just getting wrecked. Took a break and leveled my party (Ophelia, Cyrus, and that Beastmaster girl whose name is impossible) up to the recommended level 22 but I party wiped with the boss' HP in the red. Did you find any shrines along the way to any of the chapter 2 towns?
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Jul 20, 2018 06:37
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Sarchasm posted:Finished up all the Chapter 1 missions and moved on to Therion's Chapter 2 and I'm just getting wrecked. Took a break and leveled my party (Ophelia, Cyrus, and that Beastmaster girl whose name is impossible) up to the recommended level 22 but I party wiped with the boss' HP in the red. Go find all the class shrines, you get a nice stat bump for your characters from it. Upgrade your equipment if you haven't bothered. You can make money from sidequests or you can just try and jack decent equipment from chapter two towns with Therion. Levels feel less important than equipment, I could be wrong, but it sure feels like that.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:56
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It cracks me up how loving vague the side quests are in this game. Kid: "I'm excited! My grandpa is coming to visit." Game: Quest Accepted. Me: ????????????? The only complaint about this game is that I wish that the map screen would list the levels of zones/dungeons when you moved the cursor over them.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:58
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How I feel after running around some of the towns with Therion and Tressa:
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Jul 20, 2018 07:44
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Is the "Recommended Level" for a chapter the level that is recommended for your main character or your average party level? I just finished the Chapter 1s and my starting character is already like 6 levels above everyone else and I assume that gap will only grow bigger and cause more confusing with respect to recommended levels the further I go in the game.
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Jul 20, 2018 07:52
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Seems like we're posing our dance jackpots. Got this from Cyrus's chapter 3 boss. It was very thoughtful of the game to just hand me 20 levels right when I wanted to finish his story.
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Jul 20, 2018 08:06
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I didn't know nuts were permanent, I've got a shitload in my inventory I've just been ignoring.
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Jul 20, 2018 08:14
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Frankston posted:I didn't know nuts were permanent, I've got a shitload in my inventory I've just been ignoring. Better than me, I’ve got a shitload in my inventory I refuse to use because what if someone else needs it more oh god. This is my curse in any RPG with stat-increasing items.
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Jul 20, 2018 08:29
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I've been giving a bunch to my main (Tressa) for now. I know I can't switch her out so I need her to be OP for the early/mid game, then the other nuts I get I'll just save for the late game. Although part of me suspects maybe I should keep everything to really min/max the late game. I still haven't started any ch2 yet, though. I'm really slow.
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Jul 20, 2018 09:00
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Ok. Why are the end credits unskippable? And why did they show up after I finished ONE story? They're not going to do this seven more times are they?
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Jul 20, 2018 09:08
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ChrisBTY posted:Ok. Why are the end credits unskippable? They only showed up for my main character so far, but I finished their story last of my main 4.
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Jul 20, 2018 09:12
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I haven't used a single nut yet. In other totally related news I obtained one of the super jobs Runelord and cleared Therion's story. Now I can take him out of my party and spend some time with B Team. Oh God this feels so wrong. Why is Therion not leading my parade around? Why does this feel so fundamentally broken from how I've known the entire game?  I realize now that people are going to have wildly different feelings for characters like this based on who they started with. Therion feels like the protagonist in my heart and this is extremely awkward because none of the 8 are meant to be the "main" protagonist.
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Jul 20, 2018 09:12
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Evil Eagle posted:They only showed up for my main character so far, but I finished their story last of my main 4. Well I finished my MC's story first, just to have the freedom to take him out of the party. Even though I totally want Alfyn in any major boss fight. Oh, I can knock off 3 shields of any element whenever I feel like without expending MP? Ok then. Oh, I can give my whole party +2 BP? Ok then.
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Jul 20, 2018 09:18
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Thread: Bewildering Grace is broken af Me: Ok lets give it a go! *Fully boosts dance *1st round No Effect *2nd round No Effect *3rd round Brings party hp to 1 *4th round Explosion Me: Awesome  I did actually find something amazing while experimenting with the dance. You can summon a Cait as a rare monster and it replaces one of the enemies. 
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Jul 20, 2018 09:59
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I had that happen to me last night! But then it was the cat’s turn next. 
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Oh God this feels so wrong. Why is Therion not leading my parade around? Why does this feel so fundamentally broken from how I've known the entire game? I gave up on trying to rotate characters because I can't not have the best duo, Tressa and Alfyn, in my party at all times, and Ophilia too because those kids need someone to take care of them. That leaves 1 spot for rotating characters and would sort of lose its purpose. When I eventually complete their stories and go over to the B team I'll be stuck with the characters I wasn't that interested in playing.
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Jul 20, 2018 11:51
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I'll be really, really sad to not have Alfyn in my party for my post game stories. That said, no one in this game is actually bad, so while I definitely have a tier 1 and tier 2 in terms of who I want to play, tier2 isn't bad, they just aren't as great. I'll still have a blast and who knows maybe I will like them more! I'm already getting kinda sick of provoke and wish I had challenge so 
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Jul 20, 2018 11:56
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Your Computer posted:This is a big problem By the endgame, my party consisted of Cyrus, Alfyn, Olberic, and Tressa/Therion/Ophilia. Cyrus and Olberic dish out the physical damage, Alfyn and the fourth member support through buffs/debuffs and heals.
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Jul 20, 2018 12:08
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I bet everyone's tier 1 is just the first 4 characters they get.
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E2M2 posted:I bet everyone's tier 1 is just the first 4 characters they get. nope
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Jul 20, 2018 12:11
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E2M2 posted:I bet everyone's tier 1 is just the first 4 characters they get. I went Alfyn, Prim, Olberic, Therion, Ophelia, Cyrus, H'aanit, Tressa and am running Alfyn, H'aanit, Ophelia, and Therion I hated H'aanit in the demo, but she has become pretty endearing throughout her Ch2. It was also really funny having her olde english talking to a character with a southern drawl.
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Jul 20, 2018 12:23
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E2M2 posted:I bet everyone's tier 1 is just the first 4 characters they get. Nah. The characters I'd posit as definitely Tier 1s would be Cyrus, Alfyn, and Olberic since their base movesets (and also in Alfyn's case, his talent) are consistently useful throughout the game. OK, you eventually get classes that overlap with Cyrus and Olberic, but they are also the absolute best users of those classes over anyone else, especially in the case of the Sorcerer, because putting any of them on anyone else requires that character to double-dip into another role, taking away from the key reasons that make those characters great. Tressa would be just below them because before the Runelord class comes in, she's not doing anything that'd warrant giving her a slot on the party with the possible exception of donating BP and acting as a secondary elemental attacker (and having a crutch skill in Hired Help). When Runelord comes in, she becomes one of the best support-oriented characters in the game, helping the party across all boards with offensive and defensive buffs, and still having the ability to Donate BP if you so desire. Therion has extreme utility in his debuffs and functioning as a secondary physical attacker early-to-midgame, but lacks multi-target attacks and doesn't really do anything that would definitely warrant a spot in the party. Ophilia has one job and that is to use her Divine Skill on Cyrus, but her abilities is otherwise situationally useful. Primrose is for buffs and Sealticqe's Seduction, but the buffs don't play too much into factor until the lategame, so in the earlygame, she's subclassing something to take advantage of other things like Donating BP as a Merchant or being a second elemental attacker with the use of Shcolar until the time is right for the buff queen to take center stage. Of course, everyone ultimately brings something good to your party set-up, and for the real final boss of the game, you have to train everyone to a reasonable level and split them into a magic-focused and a physically focused party so leveling everyone and making sure they're the best they can be is going to be useful.
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Bewlidering Grace is such a good design choice. It's this wholly optional chaos button and I love using it. It has never not devastated my party.
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Jul 20, 2018 13:03
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Well that sucked. I spent over an hour slowly fighting the runelord and then my entire party died when he was at like 4k HP 
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Jul 20, 2018 13:07
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How many dudes are you supposed to have in one playthrough?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:How many dudes are you supposed to have in one playthrough? As many as you want.
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