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Subjunctive posted:Where did we end up on the Three Olives CCS thing? Three Olives bad, CCS good
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Nonsense posted:I laugh heartily at Musk fans. Is it ok to like Tesla’s despite Musk?
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ratbert90 posted:Is it ok to like Tesla’s despite Musk? At this point? Touch and go.
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Mr. Bill posted:At this point? Touch and go. If they got rid of Musk but kept the engineers I would be fine with it. Tbh, I don’t believe Tesla the brand is going anywhere. They will probably be bought and become the EV segment of one of the big 3.
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ratbert90 posted:Tbh, I don’t believe Tesla the brand is going anywhere. They will probably be bought and become the EV segment of one of the big 3.
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ratbert90 posted:If they got rid of Musk but kept the engineers I would be fine with it. one of Alphabet or Apple would probably be a higher bidder to jumpstart (ha!) getting their own flavor of self driving car on the road.
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pun pundit posted:Charger exclusivity in general is super dumb and bad for EV adoption. Fast charging needs to be as simple as possible, and if you see a fast charger your EV should be able to charge from it. Exactly. If you're the one making the chargers, supporting more brands of car means your customer base is that much larger. If you're the one making the cars, supporting more brands of charger means prospective owners would have an easier time finding somewhere to charge, which makes your cars more attractive.
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ratbert90 posted:If they got rid of Musk but kept the engineers I would be fine with it.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Like in theory Tesla is building on demand since they don't really have to have dealer inventory so I get why to some people this is shocking, but in practice that is very hard to do. But if the numbers are right at 29k, that's six weeks of production in transit which sounds high for a company that is primarily fulfilling domestic demand in the US. Given that twice now we have completely ridiculed any assertions from IspyTSLA, it's safe to say the "number" is wrong.
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You haven't ridiculed anything. There's a lot of possible explanations and most of them are bad. So why don't we up the ante with a much bigger graveyard, this time with Teslas covered with dirty tarps? https://twitter.com/grierhiggins/status/1020094160156540929?s=19 That's Burbank Airport. These vehicles are piling up 50-100 miles from the rail lines Tesla uses. If you're handwaving this stuff away then you're delusional. Also, it's been 115 in California and those cabins are baking every day. The batteries aren't being charged to keep the cabins cooled. FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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canyoneer posted:The virgin Supercharger vs the CHAdeMO Memes are bad, but A+ on execution.
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The Sicilian posted:Superchargers have to communicate with the Tesla to initiate charging, this will never work.
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EDIT: Hey oh, here is drone footage of a few hundred, at most, cars in a parking lot. More rock solid evidence Tesla is on the verge of bankruptcy. What is it, is Tesla struggling to barely make enough cars in a tent, or have they made so many they can't delver them fast enough? You can only pick one option..... FistEnergy posted:'immediate insolvency'. You posted some twitter pictures with like 40 - 50 (you can count them) Model 3s sitting in a parking lot and your first thought is "immediate insolvency". Are you having a psychotic break or something? In other news, a car guy falls in love with a performance Model 3: https://www.wsj.com/articles/first-ever-review-of-the-tesla-model-3-performance-a-thrilling-modern-marvel-1532022533 spandexcajun fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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FistEnergy posted:You haven't ridiculed anything. There's a lot of possible explanations and most of them are bad. Yes we have and the correct explaination has already been given. This is a completely normal holding yard exactly like every other car maker has. You firstly posted a compeltely normal factory video. Then you posted a QAnon level river of bullshit (29,000 cars gone "missing"? HAHAHAHA get hosed). And now you posted another completely normal and KNOWN holding yard. quote:If you're handwaving this stuff away then you're delusional. You are the one posting this garbage, not us. https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B002'36.0%22S+150%C2%B050'00.7%22E/@-34.0433175,150.8313333,938m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x6b12ec7d3ed567ff:0x5017d681632c160!2sMinto+NSW+2566!3b1!8m2!3d-34.02646!4d150.8507!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d-34.0433218!4d150.8335225 TOYOTA ARE GONG BROKE THEY HAVE ALL THESE CARS IN THIS STORAGE YARD (PrixCar Minto in case anyone wants to fact check) CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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Well seems like the lot at the Burbank Airport has been going on for at least 1+ year - here is a thread on the airport lot from last year - not many photos : https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/burbank-airport-log-term-lot-being-used-for-staging-model-x.93495/ Also 10 seconds of googling reveals an article on Tesla purchasing a "Manufacturing Modifications" site in Lathrop (18260 Harlan Road), the video the guy filmed is located about a kilometer northeast from that location. It doesn't seem to have any onsite staging so it could make sense to park them in the vacant lot. Note the job postings at the bottom of the page. https://insideevs.com/tesla-acquires-431000-square-foot-facility-lathrop-california-begins-manufacturing-modifications-site/ To conclude, lmao at the retard who spends all day making lovely recordings of Tesla lots. Deathreaper fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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At a guess, FistedEnergy most likely got his crap off ZeroHege, a notible Alt-Right site and likely Russian propaganda spewer by the looks of one of the articles that almost lines up exactly with his posts. Try again and this time maybe link to a credible news source.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:At a guess, FistedEnergy most likely got his crap off ZeroHege,  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-19/why-are-thousands-teslas-sitting-field-california-0
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Reading this thread makes me feel like my brain is melting. That's usually reserved for the Trump thread. So, ah, good job I guess.
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Zerohedge wrote an article a few years back about how the global economy was doomed because they had discovered the vast Illuminati conspiracy of cars awaiting transsshipment and import at ports so safe to say they’re loving retards.
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Yeah, ZeroHedge is basically a chaos monger who sees ghosts and conspiracies everywhere. I followed them around the London Whale scandal where they were actually quite good. But blind chicken etc. Once Trump started campaigning they went pretty batshit, pro Putin, pro Assad, Hillary eats children etc.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Zerohedge wrote an article a few years back about how the global economy was doomed because they had discovered the vast Illuminati conspiracy of cars awaiting transsshipment and import at ports so safe to say they’re loving retards. This one that is linked in this HoaxSlayer article? https://www.hoax-slayer.com/unsold-car-stockpile-photographs.shtml
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Ola posted:Yeah, ZeroHedge is basically a chaos monger who sees ghosts and conspiracies everywhere. I followed them around the London Whale scandal where they were actually quite good. But blind chicken etc. Once Trump started campaigning they went pretty batshit, pro Putin, pro Assad, Hillary eats children etc. Naming yourself Tyler Durden for your blog posts in 2018 is all the red flags you need.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:This one that is linked in this HoaxSlayer article? That's the one. I went to one of the port facilities of German automaker and they had about 40,000 units stacked up from some... legal reasons in addition to the ordinary cars being processed. You could take some really good pictures there for an article about FAKE SALES.
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The zerohedge thing has me really disappointed. I was imagining FistEnergy sitting in a dramatically lit room covered in photos of Elon Musk, parking lots, and a shitload of red string connecting them.
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I didn't get the info from ZeroHedge. They just reported the independent investigatiors. There's an awful lot of  here, which is weird because Tesla is clearly broke and operating like a circus if you know how to read a financial statement. I'll check back after the chips fall. I don't know how many signs of insolvency it takes for cultists to wake up but I guess we'll see. If Tesla doesn't secure new financing in the next couple of months they're finished. And it's looking more and more unlikely.
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I thought Tesla's financial statements were supposed to be bullshit because they used non-GAAP accounting? I don't actually know how to read a public company's financial statements in depth. I'd unironically appreciate you walking us through the most recent $TSLA one.
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FistEnergy posted:I didn't get the info from ZeroHedge. They just reported the independent investigatiors.
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The most beautiful thing will be that, when Tesla dies, we’ll see some postmortem analyses showing that the company, all-in-all, wasn’t doing too bad but was killed by a bunch of nerds and stock brokers posting every single bit of bad news they could make up so they can short the stock or buy when it’s low.
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FistEnergy posted:I didn't get the info from ZeroHedge. They just reported the independent investigatiors. What’s your prediction for when they fail? Bankruptcy by the end of the year? If your prediction doesn’t arrive, how will you adjust your feelings on Tesla? Genuinely curious!
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FistEnergy posted:I didn't get the info from ZeroHedge. They just reported the independent investigatiors. I enjoy that within the same page of a thread I get called a Tesla Cultist and also an EV hater. I agree that Tesla's position is precarious but it has everything to do with their manufacturing issues and nothing at all to do with cars sitting around post production for very normal reasons. It's shocking to me how little people know about the business of making cars and what lovely stupid opinions they have on both sides of this weird, illogical battlefield. Ripoff posted:The most beautiful thing will be that, when Tesla dies, we’ll see some postmortem analyses showing that the company, all-in-all, wasn’t doing too bad but was killed by a bunch of nerds and stock brokers posting every single bit of bad news they could make up so they can short the stock or buy when it’s low. this is, charitably, very unlikely
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ilkhan posted:Is your money where your mouth is, shorting shares? If they're clearly broke it should be easy to take the risk.
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Ulf posted:A little bird has told me you can use CAN spoofing and GSM/LTE jammers to prevent the SC from phoning home, and get free non-Tesla Supercharging at the risk of the ire of the federal government. It's fun to realize we live in a cyberpunk future. This would also be theft of services. Someone is paying for that electricity and it isn’t you.
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Ulf posted:A little bird has told me you can use CAN spoofing and GSM/LTE jammers to prevent the SC from phoning home, and get free non-Tesla Supercharging at the risk of the ire of the federal government. It's fun to realize we live in a cyberpunk future. Theft or service abuse is somehow ok when there is  hacking involved.A little bird whispered to me that you can get cheap beer in self service stores by selecting "potatoes" on the screen. It's not shop lifting, it's hacking
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bawfuls posted:Shorting is a fool's errand. As the old adage goes, the market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
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 Full video of the VW Pikes Peak climb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6nYdHwgCIkilkhan posted:Lol. If he's so sure they are gonna go bankrupt it's easy money, though.
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