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yeah it was the same interview where he said he ranked his two greatest accomplishments in life to making morrowind and also rigging an 84 metacritic score for obsidian
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Dalris Othaine posted:I did one Legion run a while back because I'm a completionist asshat sometimes, and while it was hard to hold my nose sometimes, I actually really enjoyed doing Arizona Killer. There's just so many ways to go about it- Straight up sniper. Sabotaging the guns to shoot down Bear Force One. Rigging that farmboy who's getting a medal to explode. HEY THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE PFC BRAHMINFUCKER AHAHAHA I think Arizona Killer feels less odious than other evil quests because they portray the NCR president as kind of a piece of poo poo and killing him as a political act of war. Whereas if you decide to, say, help the Powder Gangers kill the people of Goodsprings, you're literally betraying and murdering the people who saved your life for no real reason whatsoever.
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Berke Negri posted:yeah it was the same interview where he said he ranked his two greatest accomplishments in life to making morrowind and also rigging an 84 metacritic score for obsidian Then everything I feared has come to fruition.
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Jul 22, 2018 05:05
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Berke Negri posted:yeah it was the same interview where he said he ranked his two greatest accomplishments in life to making morrowind and also rigging an 84 metacritic score for obsidian Todd..... speaking the truth?????
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During E3 2018, T. Howard remarked (while visiting CDPR's Cyberpunk 2077 "neon bar booth") that he "...wish[ed] we could make a 50-hour game as engrossing as the [1-hour-long demo for Cyberpunk 2077 that was aired behind closed doors]" and that Maul's Cyberpunk Cosplay was "extremely handsome and strong."
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Jul 22, 2018 05:31
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Wolfsheim posted:I think Arizona Killer feels less odious than other evil quests because they portray the NCR president as kind of a piece of poo poo and killing him as a political act of war. that and Kimball's appearance really is basically just begging for assassination yeah  : "Sir, we've gotten reports of basically every current enemy we have moving forces into the area around New Vegas. It's a powderkeg, Mr. President - one wrong move could set the whole thing off." : "ima visit" : 
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Jul 22, 2018 05:48
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I can't bring myself to play as a bad guy in the game where I use a variety of guns and explosives to ruthlessly kill and dismember hundreds of people then loot their corpses.
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Jul 22, 2018 06:09
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:I can't bring myself to play as a bad guy in the game where I use a variety of guns and explosives to ruthlessly kill and dismember hundreds of people then loot their corpses. Exactly. I'd kill the fuckin kids in these games if they still allowed it. Most of them deserve it. You can't tell me you wouldn't gun down every last twerp in Little Lamplight, including that poo poo-idiot dressed like a hyperactive mole.
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Jul 22, 2018 06:14
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The legion is worth doing once just because it had the only different ending fight sequence. I also remember it being hard as balls but that's probably because it was my shortest run and I hadn't superpowered my character.
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Jul 22, 2018 09:14
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:So an amateur actor who acts in community plays is morally culpable for the actions of their characters? That is ridiculous. In the video game RapeLay, the protagonist rapes a ten year old girl, deflowers her, and boasts to her mother about his plan to turn her whole family into his harem of sex slaves. He can get the ten year old girl pregnant, and invite his friends over to gang rape her as she gets more and more visibly pregnant in each sex scene. Despite this, we could not possibly judge the morality of the sort of person who plays this video game for fun.
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Jul 22, 2018 11:32
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new creation club companion looks interestingquote:Sentinel Control System Companion  since im guessing new VA is not in the cards i wonder if itll just be like automaton beeps and boops
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Jul 22, 2018 11:42
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I did a Legion playthrough because I was curious to see how it would play out and I thought the quests themselves were really fun. My character, however, was 100%, there is no doubt, a bad dude, even though he might have justified that differently in his head. The fact that there are people who, no irony, stan for the Legion, is on the disturbing side.
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Jul 22, 2018 11:43
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Berke Negri posted:since im guessing new VA is not in the cards i wonder if itll just be like automaton beeps and boops They should use Microsoft SAM.
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Berke Negri posted:new creation club companion looks interesting Once again, CC makes something that someone else has already modded except it's free and it's done better.
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Reveilled posted:In the video game RapeLay, the protagonist rapes a ten year old girl, deflowers her, and boasts to her mother about his plan to turn her whole family into his harem of sex slaves. He can get the ten year old girl pregnant, and invite his friends over to gang rape her as she gets more and more visibly pregnant in each sex scene. I realize that you are being sarcastic, but unironically yes. You can judge them on their bad taste, I guess, but that could also be said for anyone who plays visual novels at all regardless of their content.
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Jul 22, 2018 13:28
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:I realize that you are being sarcastic, but unironically yes. You can judge them on their bad taste, I guess, but that could also be said for anyone who plays visual novels at all regardless of their content. You got some real hosed up fallout 4 mods installed, huh
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Unless your prudish sensibilities are triggered by the Servitron gynoid with chrome baps I have tending the bar at Greygarden, no. Fwiw, my character is in a relationship with Piper and it's been good except that one morning when I woke up with Lover's Embrace and Infection at the same time, bwahahahaha. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Jul 22, 2018 15:25
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:Unless your prudish sensibilities are triggered by the Servitron gynoid with chrome baps I have tending the bar at Greygarden, no. Thank you for this No but seriously your posts give me the heebie geebies
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FO4 progress: (I guess I won't bother with spoiler tags, since I'm still not very far in.) I've gotten a request to clean out a den of raiders that are holed up in the car factory. I've used my scrap hoard to beef up my weapons and armour a bit, but I figured this was probably a job for the power armour. I've repaired and upgraded my entire suit up to B class, and gave it a Flame paint job, for maximum style points. My typical style of engagement has been sniping from a distance, then using a pistol and ducking behind cover to fight at close range. With the power armour, I just waltzed right up to the factory with a suped-up combat shotgun, and started blowing raiders away. Being able to stand toe to toe with a mob of enemies, blasting them down while bullets plink off my armour really makes the suit feel like a powerful resource. I also appreciated how stepping into the armour gives you a slight height increase too. So far, I'm really enjoying the game. I'm not too concerned with tracking down my missing kid, so I'll just keep exploring, and farting around with side quests for now.
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The only real way to enjoy FO4 is by not worrying about your kid, and just exploring and farting around with sidequests and settlements imo
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Power armor is very powerful, and doesn't take a whole lot of work to get unlimited fusion cores, so go wild.
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I disagree with the guy who said playing a video game is not a morally indicative act. Time to extremely rationally pay to annoy him
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Well they did bring up pedo hentai rape games as a non sequitur in a conversation about moral choices in RPGs so they probably aren't very good at reason. Did you know that watching horror movies means you're basically a serial killer? Bogan Krkic posted:The only real way to enjoy FO4 is by not worrying about your kid, and just exploring and farting around with sidequests and settlements imo Yeah, that's p much why I'm pretty hyped about 76. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Reveilled posted:In the video game RapeLay, the protagonist rapes a ten year old girl, deflowers her, and boasts to her mother about his plan to turn her whole family into his harem of sex slaves. He can get the ten year old girl pregnant, and invite his friends over to gang rape her as she gets more and more visibly pregnant in each sex scene. How do people ever know about stuff like this with all the details lol
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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I did not know about the rape camps in fallout New Vegas until I read about them online. I thought the legion was cool and the NCR were dorks so I sided with them in a couple play throughs. I sincerely apologize for my actions and will do better in the future
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siding with bad guys in video games is fine but also some people online are a bit weird about Caesar's Legion (the same is also true with some people and the Empire from Star Wars)
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Six AM posted:How do people ever know about stuff like this with all the details lol Something Awful has a front page
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The Zombie Guy posted:FO4 progress: ... Glad to hear you are having fun! While I agree with the criticism that Power Armor in FO4 is a bit too common there is no denying it is incredibly fun to use. One thing of note with Power Armor: if you find a suit in the wild and it is one you've already collected (like another T-45 for example) consider leaving it be and come back when you are about ten levels higher. Some armors will change depending on your character's level. I believe T-51 starts appearing around level 15, T-60 around level 30, and X-01 level 40. There is no advantage to picking them all up early unless you just want to collect them. I find they start to clutter up my "home base" settlement but ymmv. I don't know what difficulty you are playing on but Very Hard isn't actually that hard. I have a lot of fun playing on Very Hard. Might want to give it a try. If you don't like it you can always change it back with no consequences. Edit: fixed typos and added a bit about armor levels SwitchbladeKult fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Six AM posted:How do people ever know about stuff like this with all the details lol
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No it's because only actors and the people playing these games could possibly know how bad they are and want to be like them. This thread gets weird.
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OwlFancier posted:Though you can argue that the existence of Veronica is an indication that there are members of the brotherhood who aren't knobheads, despite their leadership being much more conservative.
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I think the reason people give NV such critical analysis wrt morality is because the world is well-realized, as are the characters, so turning Vegas into ostensibly one giant slave camp feels distasteful. On the other hand I don't really have any ill will towards doing evil acts in the Bethesda games like bomb-collaring that one kid from the ant town or siding with the Nuka raiders because everything is just so cartoonish and ridiculous that it's all just played for laughs.The Zombie Guy posted:FO4 progress: (I guess I won't bother with spoiler tags, since I'm still not very far in.) Tip if you missed it; climb to the very top of the car factory if you want to find an item that makes power armor even better. And then jump off, because jumping off large heights in power armor is one of the best things about wearing it.
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I mean the Legion isn't just rape camps and slaves though. Caesar has multiple talks about how this is the last cycle he hopes to have to do this, and how his plan all along has been to bring education, proper education to the children of the tribals so they can build the new glorious future/Rome. How a lot of the laws he has in place aren't to encourage these acts, but to be built with the understanding that the majority of his people are tribals/conquered tribals who view these actions as normal, and so by also normalizing certain smaller atrocities he can curtail even worse versions/atrocities. There are whole systems in place for slaves to uplift themselves from slavery through service, allowing basically all to become citizens in the Legion. The system of slavery they use isn't on everyone. If the community submits to Caesar it's left alone, women and all. It's only communities that are openly hostile to Caesar that get conquered and then have to reearn his trust. It's not like the NCR handles the issue of "how do we handle numerous tribes that are still inferior to us technologically/culturally" very well. Their solution is usually to treat them like bog standard Raiders and just murder the entire camp, including women and children. Like there is a kernel of truth behind all the violence. That the people of the Wasteland aren't capable of being self sufficient because of the conditions they are forced to live in, so they have to throw their lot in with the powerful, which groups like the NCR struggle with. How does Democracy work in a world where the rich and powerful can basically do whatever they want without having to think of the people. The Courier taking over Vegas also doesn't solve this issue, because what happens when the Courier dies/the Couriers reach is rather limited. If Caesars plan actually works, then you'll have a society which can genuinely support itself throughout the Wastes, and will be able to stop committing atrocities thanks to the forced education/forced uplifting. In Caesars mind, the ends justify the means, he just needs to live long enough to bring his plan to fruition. That's like the core crux of the Legion storyline. Lanius wants to usurp Caesar and use the Legion as a bludgeon, and Caesar never thought about what could happen if he lost control before he managed to build his utopian society where all are equal.
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Yea but... rape camps. If they hadn't included that one detail all this would make the legion an interesting evil faction where you can kind of see what they are going for, but since they did also throw in rape camps they can't ever be anything but cartoonishly evil.
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Wolfsheim posted:I think the reason people give NV such critical analysis wrt morality is because the world is well-realized, as are the characters, so turning Vegas into ostensibly one giant slave camp feels distasteful. On the other hand I don't really have any ill will towards doing evil acts in the Bethesda games like bomb-collaring that one kid from the ant town or siding with the Nuka raiders because everything is just so cartoonish and ridiculous that it's all just played for laughs. sorry but i just really do not have it in me to kill isabel cruz
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Avalerion posted:Yea but... rape camps.
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Rookersh posted:Caesar has multiple talks about how this is the last cycle he hopes to have to do this, and how his plan all along has been to bring education, proper education to the children of the tribals so they can build the new glorious future/Rome. How a lot of the laws he has in place aren't to encourage these acts, but to be built with the understanding that the majority of his people are tribals/conquered tribals who view these actions as normal, and so by also normalizing certain smaller atrocities he can curtail even worse versions/atrocities. But this is transparently absurd. Our first encounter with the Legion is them literally murdering an entire town (an explicitly non-aligned town in the current conflict, too; Vulpes notes that they're equally happy to serve NCR, Powder Gangers, and Legion.) Moreover in Honest Hearts we see that plenty of tribals don't view brutality as normal.
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I was pretty down on the Legion but now that I realize it's just a few rape camps I'm a huge fan!
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Yeah Caesar's rhetoric doesn't work because he is the cause of most of the problems he says he's the solution to. The primary purveyor of horror in the FNV setting is the legion. The NCR is obviously struggling but a big part of why it's struggling is because it's fighting the legion, clearly the NCR has developed its way eastward and has built up the ruins of the world in its wake and improved the lives of the people there by bringing security from the wasteland and resources to improve things, whereas Caesar just burns everything he runs into down and salts the earth. It's pretty unequivocal that if you just took the legion out of the picture literally everybody would be much better off. The solution to the difficulties of postapocalyptic democracy is definitely not "enslave everyone to the whims of a tumour infested madman" Like if it took place in a world where everyone was dying to the wasteland then he might have a point, but it doesn't, it takes place after the west coast is well on the road to rebuilding and the NCR for all their faults have clearly demonstrated themselves to be good at rebuilding, far better than anyone else, even House and his army of robots. Caesar is a dumb romeaboo who went off the deep end and somehow missed the part where Rome collapsed spectacularly under the weight of its own conquest and decided he was going to just wander off and do stupid poo poo and somehow managed to end up acquiring an army of idiot fanboys in the process. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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