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Didn't Jeph Loeb show up at the Iron Fist panel dressed like Mr. Miyagi or something? is he having a mental break down?
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Jul 22, 2018 21:51
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Skwirl posted:Didn't Jeph Loeb show up at the Iron Fist panel dressed like Mr. Miyagi or something? is he having a mental break down? He was Daniel from Karate Kid. The only person who could get away with that at a panel would be Ralph Machio. And not the Marvel one. (And I wanna bet he doesn't do that at fan and press events for Cobra Kai)
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Jul 22, 2018 21:57
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Jesus.
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Jul 22, 2018 22:15
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Even money says when he apologizes, he says it’s because of his dead son.
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Jul 22, 2018 23:07
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Skwirl posted:Didn't Jeph Loeb show up at the Iron Fist panel dressed like Mr. Miyagi or something? is he having a mental break down? He was just cosplaying. Cough.
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Jul 22, 2018 23:12
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OGB posted:Even money says when he apologizes, he says it’s because of his dead son. It was a bit between him and Jessica Henwick where she came out and made him take it off.
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Jul 22, 2018 23:31
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OGB posted:Even money says when he apologizes, he says it’s because of his dead son. I will never not be disgusted by people being unable to criticize jeph loeb without bringing up his dead kid come the gently caress on y'all
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Jul 22, 2018 23:49
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Blockhouse posted:I will never not be disgusted by people being unable to criticize jeph loeb without bringing up his dead kid Fair point. My bad.
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Jul 22, 2018 23:50
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https://twitter.com/CharlesPulliam/status/1020112993722380288
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Jul 23, 2018 01:58
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Yes, we've covered this in this and other threads. X-O posted:It was a bit between him and Jessica Henwick where she came out and made him take it off.
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Jul 23, 2018 02:28
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Charles Pulliam Moore is always looking for something to be offended over.
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Jul 23, 2018 02:31
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Uh-huh and the bit where he goes on about genders and deliberately misgenders people is also a bit right?
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Jul 23, 2018 02:40
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For the second point, was he doing anything more than just going, "Yes. The lady/fella over there" and innocently getting it wrong?
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Jul 23, 2018 02:48
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Not to sound dense, but I do not understand what that guy is pissed about when he says Loeb says there is only 2 genders, then Cloak fans and Dagger fans. Like, the way that is written, it sounds like a joke, that you can only be a Dagger fan or a Cloak fan and nothing in between. But then it says someone was mis-gendered but gave no context. Did he accuse someone of being a Dagger fan when they were really a Cloak fan? Those tweets are loving confusing.
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Jul 23, 2018 02:59
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enigmahfc posted:Not to sound dense, but I do not understand what that guy is pissed about when he says Loeb says there is only 2 genders, then Cloak fans and Dagger fans. Like, the way that is written, it sounds like a joke, that you can only be a Dagger fan or a Cloak fan and nothing in between. But then it says someone was mis-gendered but gave no context. Did he accuse someone of being a Dagger fan when they were really a Cloak fan? Those tweets are loving confusing. Perhaps Cloak fans are supposed to be Males, Dagger fans females, and he called a Female fan a Cloak fan? He doesn't have anything to be pissed about.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:12
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I assumed there were two different incidents; the bit where he used "there are only two genders" as a joke ("there are two types of people" would have worked just as well) and when he misgendered a questioner. But I don't know.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:17
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enigmahfc posted:Not to sound dense, but I do not understand what that guy is pissed about when he says Loeb says there is only 2 genders, then Cloak fans and Dagger fans. Like, the way that is written, it sounds like a joke, that you can only be a Dagger fan or a Cloak fan and nothing in between. But then it says someone was mis-gendered but gave no context. Did he accuse someone of being a Dagger fan when they were really a Cloak fan? Those tweets are loving confusing. "The Two Genders" is a joke/meme that has been around for 2ish years. Here have a buzzfeed clickbait with a bunch of stolen tweets: https://www.buzzfeed.com/hattiesoykan/pictures-that-accurately-define-the-gender-binary
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Jul 23, 2018 03:29
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It sounds more like when your dad tries to joke with you about things you like but he doesn’t quite understand it at all. Except the kid in this scenario is humorless and easily offended.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:30
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He would have just said "two kinds of people" if he wasn't trying to get with the millennials and their gender issues or whatever the heck that was. It wouldn't make sense anyway. There's fans of one character without the other? But untill we hear any more specifics, I'm guessing the misgendering wasn't malicious.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:49
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Yeah, gonna have to recant my anger as I was going off what was being angrily reported. Sounds like he just told a joke that fell flat.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:51
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Teenage Fansub posted:He would have just said "two kinds of people" if he wasn't trying to get with the millennials and their gender issues or whatever the heck that was. Yeah it just sounds like a really poorly worded joke from an older dude who really shouldn't be trying to do a comedy routine at a press event.
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Jul 23, 2018 05:02
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Android Blues posted:Excited to see oneshots featuring Nanny, Warwolves, Dracula and Mojo II. All these X-Men villains are great. I loving love Warwolves.
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Jul 23, 2018 06:00
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Did they appear in anything other than Excalibur?
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Jul 23, 2018 06:02
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I am no great fan (or any fan at all) of Jeph Loeb's writing but both of these sounds like poorly thought out/poorly received jokes that revolve around the idea of "hey look at this uncool old dude trying to be cool and With It and failing miserably for comedic effect" more than any intended disrespect or belittling of fans. Maybe I'm out of touch but I've lived through convention panels where Dan Didio poo poo all over a fan for wearing a sports coat because THIS IS COMICON IT'S NOT YOUR BAIL HEARING YA NERD or Ian Sattler repeatedly insisting that the JLA is very diverse because Superman and Martian Manhunter aren't even human and ONE OF THEM IS GREEN, he's not a white guy! or the time that Bill Willingham self-hijacked most of a Fables panel to crack on the Venture Bros fans camping in the hall by pointing out that they probably wouldn't like his comic because it has words and they are fans of a cartoon which probably means they're illiterate because cartoons are for children who don't know how to read yet and there are literary references in Fables so even if you know how to read I know you're too dumb to have read any real books so maybe stick to your baby cartoons you stupid fans... given the historical trends of big con panels while if I were a Loeb confidant I would have desperately advised for him to skip both of these dad jokes, I don't know if it ranks in the top 10/20 bad con panel decisions I can think of in recent memory. EDIT: Chris Claremont shoehorned Warwolves into his short-lived Fantastic Four run! 
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Jul 23, 2018 06:04
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Mojo II was just in Squirrel Girl
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Jul 23, 2018 06:13
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Edge & Christian posted:EDIT: Chris Claremont shoehorned Warwolves into his short-lived Fantastic Four run! Oh no! What did that warwolf do to Franklin's head?
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Jul 23, 2018 09:47
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Edge & Christian posted:EDIT: Chris Claremont shoehorned Warwolves into his short-lived Fantastic Four run! Holy crap! Salvador Larocca's art wasn't always heavily burnished publicity photos from Star Wars?!
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Jul 23, 2018 12:57
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Android Blues posted:Excited to see oneshots featuring Nanny, Warwolves, Dracula and Mojo II. You mean Mojo II: The Sequel. Also god dammit, I was 100% out on Spider-Geddon but they announced a Spider-Girls miniseries by the RYV writer. I thought I was out and they pull me back in! Oh well, I will disregard the main event as planned.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:16
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Edge & Christian posted:EDIT: Chris Claremont shoehorned Warwolves into his short-lived Fantastic Four run! Warwolves, sure, but how about the Technet?
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Jul 23, 2018 13:22
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Dawgstar posted:Warwolves, sure, but how about the Technet? The Technet actually appeared recently in Rocket Raccoon, I think? Which is amazing because they might as well be called the Chris Claremont's Strange and Funny Paraphilias Squad.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:24
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The Technet were an Alan Moore creation, weren't they?
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Jul 23, 2018 13:33
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Dawgstar posted:Warwolves, sure, but how about the Technet?  Wheat Loaf posted:The Technet were an Alan Moore creation, weren't they? and not quote:Devour: Bodybag can devour up to 3 living beings and store them inside her stomach-sacs. Sizes of victims have varied, as she has shown to be able to eat Benjamin Grimm (Earth-616) Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 13:39
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Android Blues posted:The Technet actually appeared recently in Rocket Raccoon, I think? Which is amazing because they might as well be called the Chris Claremont's Strange and Funny Paraphilias Squad. Yeah they were in Rocket Raccoon which was really, really good. And Warwolves appear now and then in X-Men stuff.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:41
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Edge & Christian posted:
I think I must have mixed them up with the Special Executive.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:42
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The group was created by Alan Davis in an 80s issue of Captain Britain, but it wasn't the full complement. Some of the more ludicrously fetishy members, like Joyboy, Bodybag and China Doll, were Claremont co-creations with Davis for Excalibur.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:42
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It was definitely something of a shock rereading Excalibur last year for the first time since I was a kid. As wonderful as Technet is, they are literally just a group whose powers are catering to as many fetishes as possible.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:47
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I am completely unsurprised Loeb would make the lovely two genders joke. I am surprised it would involve Cloak and Dagger. That doesn’t even make sense! If your gonna do a lovely transgressive joke at least be cohesive.
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Jul 23, 2018 16:11
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I assume he was trying to play off jokes like these where the whole point is that it's a weird poorly signified nonsense binary, but for a whole variety of reasons that's a bad idea. I think it's less meant to be edgy and transgressive and more silly.
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Jul 23, 2018 16:46
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Im just gonna say that it was a lovely offensive joke, and if it was an attempt to be some dadjoke that only makes it marginally less lovely lovely and still offensive
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Jul 23, 2018 16:51
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There are only 2 genders - Skrull and Skrull.
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Jul 23, 2018 16:52
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